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1060 Lapis and 7 Tickets right now - im so ready for the NieR banner :-D
I still think ill be able to get at least one 9S..if not, well that would be disappointing but FFBE live goes on.

PS. Still looking for a Dark Esper carry unit that can clear it faster than Ling.

Wife's daily was Orran, mine was Meliadoul. How cute! Don't even mind since we both skipped the FFT banner.

Grats - both are them are pretty cool. Obv. no Top Tier but i like those base 4* units with their own niche. Hope i can level/evolve my Ilias soon.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Well if Eve's TM is actually +HP instead of MP (Which would make sense anyway given the type of materia it is) then it's not that bad.

 

[Nikokuno]

someone explained it on discord, 2b has 80% passive attack boosts than you equip her how you like...

a2 has stat buffs like noctis, so equipping her to take advantage of whichever she has will boost her~

Oh thanks

 

[Alkez]

I mean

10 man trials require you to find separate units with synergy anyways

So it really doesnt change the current reality. But it is easier to pair up units with known frame data synergy

Using 9S combos will require a new dataset

Well the reality is unique to each player. If you have Aileen/Tidus or Du/DV then you don't need 2 9s for chaining purposes. It would be nice for that second set of chaining partners or if you don't have both of the above, but as you've said, we need new data, and without it 2 9s TM users won't be chaining partners anyway (unless people plan to not use dual wield). I'm sure someone on reddit will eventually either test out common units with this skill or form the data eventually though.

It just feels like another case of GL players doing the most again to me. It's always "you absolute must get this unit or you cannot play" lol. When I watched Sin V do the 10 man trial he only took 1 chaining pair and did it absolutely fine, so for me with Aileen 2 9s isn't really a need. If I get it I get it but I'm definitely not chasing it. With your luck you'll probably get 3 back to back to back again haha.

 

[Euphoria14]

Apparently people believe Eve's TM will be identical to Adam.

So likely +110% DEF when HP drops below 30%. Adam is 20%HP, +110% ATK when HP drops below 30%.

 

[Xion86]

Fake Cigarettebrand trial should be here next Friday.

*shudders* hate that guy in every Final Fantasy game. Time to get another Ribbon I guess....

My daily today was a Gold!...Victoria! Not bad at all

So I just bought my first house! Which means I'm going to have to only limit myself to maybe £40 worth of lapis for the NieR banner and not go crazy . Exciting stuff.

Back to TM farming for now.

 

[Syntsui]

Eve's TM is actually good huh. Too bad we are entering an era of Weapon Mastery 40%ATK + 20%HP, so even if it sounds good and it's ''free'' it will get old very quick. Not bad, but not great.

The raid equipments are pretty good overall and if they don't purposely nerf the rewards, we will get 3x 4*tickets out of it.

 

[Celegus]

Congrats Xion, welcome to the joys of home ownership! Just when you finish one thing, there's 5 more to do...

 

[Zera_Bloodwinter]

*shudders* hate that guy in every Final Fantasy game. Time to get another Ribbon I guess....

My daily today was a Gold!...Victoria! Not bad at all

So I just bought my first house! Which means I'm going to have to only limit myself to maybe £40 worth of lapis for the NieR banner and not go crazy . Exciting stuff.

Back to TM farming for now.

Congrats!!!! I bought my first one back in October and know the feeling bro. Best of luck and enjoy the hell out of it.

 

[Doctor_No]

Well if Eve's TM is actually +HP instead of MP (Which would make sense anyway given the type of materia it is) then it's not that bad.

Apparently people believe Eve's TM will be identical to Adam.

So likely +110% DEF when HP drops below 30%. Adam is 20%HP, +110% ATK when HP drops below 30%.

Eve's TM actually might be pretty damn nice as it makes sense that Eve's TM is like Adams. Adam's TM.

This would be wonderful for tanks like Wilhelm, WoL, and Veritas of Earth. You're only sacrificing -10% compared to the +30% HP materia, but with a massive +110% DEF boost when you need it, and tanks will likely be triggering that boost pretty frequently.

A2's TM with that +20% DEF boost on a sword with an AOE is also pretty neat. Would go great with Wilhelm...

 

[eggydoo]

I was looking at the JP schedule to see what is possibly after Nier....

Is Onion Knight next????

 

[Syntsui]

Would anyone use Eve's TM over A10's though?

 

[CGwizz]

I was looking at the JP schedule to see what is possibly after Nier....

Is Onion Knight next????

This banner will fuck all my tickets and OK is next and i cant pull for him ... fuck GUMI

 

[Hippopuncher12]

I was looking at the JP schedule to see what is possibly after Nier....

Is Onion Knight next????

Unless we get a GE one, that should be the next Mog King.

The next raid should also for sure be FFXI since in the timeline Monster Hunter was the next one, and we sure as shit aren't getting that.

 

[across]

A2's TM with that +20% DEF boost on a sword with an AOE is also pretty neat. Would go great with Wilhelm...

Can't equip greatswords.

 

[Rixa]

Eve's TM actually might be pretty damn nice as it makes sense that Eve's TM is like Adams. Adam's TM.

This would be wonderful for tanks like Wilhelm, WoL, and Veritas of Earth. You're only sacrificing -10% compared to the +30% HP materia, but with a massive +110% DEF boost when you need it, and tanks will likely be triggering that boost pretty frequently.

A2's TM with that +20% DEF boost on a sword with an AOE is also pretty neat. Would go great with Wilhelm...

Haven't checked others. But I think Eve's tm doesn't stack with WoL innate ability.

Hope Increase DEF (100%) when HP drops below 30%

 

[Pejo]

After Veritas banner where I finally got my chainer team(DV and Orlandu), I'm done pulling on non-limited banners for damage characters for quite a while. It sucks that the Veritas banner was a lapis trap for the Nier banner, but it is what it is. Next things I can see myself pulling for are Ayaka and eventually Balthier when he finally drops. I'm just hoping this Nier banner is fairly nice to me. I'd really like both A2 and 2B, but I'm ok getting one or the other. I still haven't had problems getting 4* characters outside of the first WoL banner near launch, so I'm pretty sure I'll fall into 9S and Eve while pulling for the rainbows.

Going to play an hour or so of Nier Automata every night for the next few days as a summoning ritual.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

After Veritas banner where I finally got my chainer team(DV and Orlandu), I'm done pulling on non-limited banners for damage characters for quite a while. It sucks that the Veritas banner was a lapis trap for the Nier banner, but it is what it is. Next things I can see myself pulling for are Ayaka and eventually Balthier when he finally drops. I'm just hoping this Nier banner is fairly nice to me. I'd really like both A2 and 2B, but I'm ok getting one or the other. I still haven't had problems getting 4* characters outside of the first WoL banner near launch, so I'm pretty sure I'll fall into 9S and Eve while pulling for the rainbows.

Going to play an hour or so of Nier Automata every night for the next few days as a summoning ritual.

Well, it's a good thing you are wanting to pull both of them, because Gumi gonna put em together on a banner. Book that shit!

 

[eggydoo]

Going to play an hour or so of Nier Automata every night for the next few days as a summoning ritual.

You have to Self-Destruct to make sure it really works

 

[Pejo]

Well, it's a good thing you are wanting to pull both of them, because Gumi gonna put em together on a banner. Book that shit!

Why do you do this? ; ;

You have to Self-Destruct to make sure it really works

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Why do you do this? ; ;



( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Hey man, I'm only telling you what I saw in the email.


I mean, what?

 

[Zera_Bloodwinter]

Hey man, I'm only telling you what I saw in the email.


I mean, what?

LMAO!

 

[Doctor_No]

Can't equip greatswords.

Totally forgot Wilhelm can't equip Great Swords, I guess her sword will primarily be useful for WoL.

Haven't checked others. But I think Eve's tm doesn't stack with WoL innate ability.

I'm guessing, It'll probably only increase it to 110% DEF, same as WIlhelm (which is only 75% DEF below 30% HP); so the benefit will be the delta (which for WoL isn't that great). Veritas of Earth I don't think has a DEF boost when his HP drops below a certain level.

 

[Euphoria14]

Eve's TM isn't very good for WoL. Better off using 21O's TM on him, and that's from a 3*.

15% HP/SPR with 30% chance to heal self after taking Physical or Magical damage.

 

[Euphoria14]

Totally forgot Wilhelm can't equip Great Swords, I guess her sword will primarily be useful for WoL.

I would argue that weapons like Giant Axe/Lightning Hammer are better with their 15% HP buffs.

 

[Syntsui]

Totally forgot Wilhelm can't equip Great Swords, I guess her sword will primarily be useful for WoL.



I'm guessing, It'll probably only increase it to 110% DEF, same as WIlhelm (which is only 75% DEF below 30% HP); so the benefit will be the delta (which for WoL isn't that great). Veritas of Earth I don't think has a DEF boost when his HP drops below a certain level.

Yes he has

Absorb Earth Damage & +100% SPR after HP drops below 30% & +100% DEF after HP drops below 30%

Really thinking about it, Eve's TM is absolute trash. There is zero reason to use it if you have 30%HP materias or even 21O's TM.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

I was really hyped for the Nier banner but all the talk of the rates and Gumi screwing is over has been a real downer.

But it's all true. So I'm planning on just pulling for two 9S and two 210s. Once I get them I'll be done with my pulls. I really wanted to get a whole Nier crew but it's just not worth it. I'm going to be trying very hard to conserve resources from here on out. Until the change that is. I know it will be awhile but I just know it's the wisest choice.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Yes he has

Really thinking about it, Eve's TM is absolute trash. There is zero reason to use it if you have 30%HP materias or even 21O's TM.

Yeah trading 5% HP for a counter heal... 210's is better

Though HP+20% and permanent double defense could still be useful depending on the fight.

But certainly a niche tm outside of using it as a straight upgrade from a normal Hp+15%

Its not bad but yeah for those of us swimming in better TMs sure. Its not that great

 

[Euphoria14]

If everyone on my team have Eve's TM and Rikku LB is active, does everyone have permanent +110% DEF as long as they don't die without autorevive?

What I mean is, once they autorevive, they have the buff going forward right?


I can still find some use for these due to not having any HP30% materias.

 

[Advocatus Diaboli]

I was really hyped for the Nier banner but all the talk of the rates and Gumi screwing is over has been a real downer.

But it's all true. So I'm planning on just pulling for two 9S and two 210s. Once I get them I'll be done with my pulls. I really wanted to get a whole Nier crew but it's just not worth it. I'm going to be trying very hard to conserve resources from here on out. Until the change that is. I know it will be awhile but I just know it's the wisest choice.

This is gonna be my last hurrah too. I have no love for Nier, so maybe just one 9S and two 210s. I have plenty of chainers.

 

[DrROBschiz]

If everyone on my team have Eve's TM and Rikku LB is active, does everyone have permanent +110% DEF as long as they don't die without autorevive?

What I mean is, once they autorevive, they have the buff going forward right?


I can still find some use for these due to not having any HP30% materias.

Yup

See what people dont leverage with threshold attacks is that it gives a permanent buff (as long as you dont die)

This could be a way to free up unit slots or turns if that def bonus is enough to tank hits

But most people would argue that you should just use an actual tank instead. Which... you should since physical damage can be mitgated much easier

If his TM gave a threshold bonus to SPR though..... gamechanger

 

[robotuw]

And Gumi hastily changes Eve's TM from a slap in the face to a condescending pat. (unless you think the mp was a typo)

Poor A2, I get her passives are weapon-based but they could have at least tossed a general 20% atk passive on her so she doesn't look so awful. I'm really looking forward to the datamine tonight. I need the final word on if she's any good before I feel ready to dance.

Summer bundle is bad. Don't get it.

Yup

See what people dont leverage with threshold attacks is that it gives a permanent buff (as long as you dont die)

This could be a way to free up unit slots or turns if that def bonus is enough to tank hits

But most people would argue that you should just use an actual tank instead. Which... you should since physical damage can be mitgated much easier

If his TM gave a threshold bonus to SPR though..... gamechanger

Adam's TM only lasts 3 turns after activation. Eve's is probably the same, so no permanent buff.

 

[Doctor_No]

I would argue that weapons like Giant Axe/Lightning Hammer are better with their 15% HP buffs.

Giant Axe and Lighting Hammer are easy to get, and in most cases, and for most people, it would be the obvious choice. A2's sword in hidden behind a limited time gacha RNG, but her sword isn't just a 20% Defense but also has a an AOE and is also the strongest non-elemental great sword in the game.

But defense can be absolutely crucial depending on how much DEF you ultimately have. If you're not hitting 400-500 defense for a tank, the amount of damage you take is massive; 15% off of base HP isn't going to cover that difference.

However, the higher your defense is you're not going to really benefit as much, especially if you're already buffed with patriotic recalls. In which case, extra HP might be better.

Yes he has

Really thinking about it, Eve's TM is absolute trash. There is zero reason to use it if you have 30%HP materias or even 21O's TM.

In that case Eve's TM isn't very useful unless you want to build a tanky healer or support unit. Depending on his actual skillsets he may have originally been better suited as a Raid Gacha unit like Adam. His addition really might be there to dilute the 9S pool.

Granted, in Nier, Eve was way stronger than Adam.

 

[DrROBschiz]

And Gumi hastily changes Eve's TM from a slap in the face to a condescending pat. (unless you think the mp was a typo)

Poor A2, I get her passives are weapon-based but they could have at least tossed a general 20% atk passive on her so she doesn't look so awful. I'm really looking forward to the datamine tonight. I need the final word on if she's any good before I feel ready to dance.

Summer bundle is bad. Don't get it.



Adam's TM only lasts 3 turns after activation. Eve's is probably the same, so no permanent buff.

Oh weird

That kind of sucks actually. That makes the Ulrica TM the best threshold skill at 60% all stats

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Giant Axe and Lighting Hammer are easy to get, and in most cases, and for most people, it would be the obvious choice. A2's sword in hidden behind a limited time gacha RNG, but her sword isn't just a 20% Defense but also has a an AOE and is also the strongest non-elemental great sword in the game.

But defense can be absolutely crucial depending on how much DEF you ultimately have. If you're not hitting 400-500 defense for a tank, the amount of damage you take is massive; 15% off of base HP isn't going to cover that difference.

However, the higher your defense is you're not going to really benefit as much, especially if you're already buffed with patriotic recalls. In which case, extra HP might be better.



In that case Eve's TM isn't very useful unless you want to build a tanky healer or support unit. Depending on his actual skillsets he may have originally been better suited as a Raid Gacha unit like Adam. His addition really might be there to dilute the 9S pool.

Granted, in Nier, Eve was way stronger than Adam.

Until Beatrix, so I am looking at it like this. If her AoE skill on the sword is actually quite a bit better than Bladeblitz I am probably going to hard pull for her. If it's not then I can live without it since I am definitely hard pulling for Beatrix regardless.

 

[Doctor_No]

Until Beatrix, so I am looking at it like this. If her AoE skill on the sword is actually quite a bit better than Bladeblitz I am probably going to hard pull for her. If it's not then I can live without it since I am definitely hard pulling for Beatrix regardless.

Beatrix is way far off for GL (Mascarade is going to be more powerful in the mean time if Gumi releases RomaSaga banner). And her sword has the benefit of a 25% LB gauge boost, which is better than DEF, in addition to having an extra 10 ATK. I really don't think A2's AOE is worth pulling for, unless it turns out to be a multi-hit monster AOE like Bartz's enhanced windsheer, given that bladeblitz in itself is primarily only used to get through mobs, I don't know how useful it will be.

Also, Onion Knight is also around the corner, and his sword has bladeblitz as well, in addition to his insanely powerful Onion Cutter, and its a 135 ATK sword on par with Beatrix's Save the Queen-II.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Beatrix is way far off for GL (Mascarade is going to be more powerful in the mean time if Gumi releases RomaSaga banner). And her sword has the benefit of a 25% LB gauge boost, which is better than DEF, in addition to having an extra 10 ATK. I really don't think A2's AOE is worth pulling for, unless it turns out to be a multi-hit monster AOE like Bartz's enhanced windsheer, given that bladeblitz in itself is primarily only used to get through mobs, I don't know how useful it will be.

Also, Onion Knight is also around the corner, and his sword has bladeblitz as well, in addition to his insanely powerful Onion Cutter, and its a 135 ATK sword on par with Beatrix's Save the Queen-II.

Yeah, OK's sword is pretty badass, but that is why I said I would only pull for A2 if her sword is far and away a better AoE than Bladeblitz since my main DPS would generally have it anyway from Odin. Onion Cutter is for OK himself only correct? I still haven't decided if I am going to pull for him. I guess if I don't end up chasing anything outside of 9S on this banner I may go for him since he should (hopefully) not have anyone else added with him.

I also highly doubt we get the Saga banner in Global unfortunately.

 

[Syntsui]

OK Sword might be the best Weapon TM we will get because when Bravely Default hits we will have free sword masteries (well almost, 40%ATK and 20%HP) from the raid gacha (as long as you pull Yun). I was able to get two of those without any refresh, too bad I don't have a powerful neutral sword >.>

Edit: But thinking about it, we might also have access to Werei's TM from the FFXI raid gacha (I wasn't playing JP at the time so I'm not sure it will drop TM moogles), so getting A2's TM or Beatrix's in the future might be equally good.

 

[Euphoria14]

In that case Eve's TM isn't very useful unless you want to build a tanky healer or support unit. Depending on his actual skillsets he may have originally been better suited as a Raid Gacha unit like Adam. His addition really might be there to dilute the 9S pool.

Granted, in Nier, Eve was way stronger than Adam.

It's clear as day that this is exactly why this unit was created.

Gumi saw their users excitement and decided to find a way to profit from it, so they diluted the pool intentionally.

This is why I don't give them money and others should stop as well. When the whales change their habits, so will Gumi.

Instead they see themselves being rewarded because the whales will just spend even more because they want to collect every single unit, monetary cost be damned.

 

[Doctor_No]

Yeah, OK's sword is pretty badass, but that is why I said I would only pull for A2 if her sword is far and away a better AoE than Bladeblitz since my main DPS would generally have it anyway from Odin. Onion Cutter is for OK himself only correct? I still haven't decided if I am going to pull for him. I guess if I don't end up chasing anything outside of 9S on this banner I may go for him since he should (hopefully) not have anyone else added with him.

I also highly doubt we get the Saga banner in Global unfortunately.

Romancing Saga and the other Saga games were released in the US (only RomaSaga remake on PS2 was released outside Japan; I even remember the NeoGaf thread from long ago). It was never popular like it was in Japan, but its a fully-owned SE IP so it shouldn't be difficult or expensive to get the banner out.

Personally, I would love for it to come to the GL, as I grew up on those games and loved them more than the FF main series, but I'm not holding my breath.

Also, yes, Onion Cutter is OK only, but its 520% 16 hit non-elemental. Meaning that two of him can hit elemental and normal chain cap, and you can basically put on required weapons to lenghten nearly any chain, the rest you can leave to finishers.

It's clear as day that this is exactly why this unit was created.

Gumi saw their users excitement and decided to find a way to profit from it, so they diluted the pool intentionally.

This is why I don't give them money and others should stop as well. When the whales change their habits, so will Gumi.

Instead they see themselves being rewarded because the whales will just spend even more because they want to collect every single unit, monetary cost be damned.

Nier was a huge success in JP as well. There was a graph from 2ch somewhere showing the spike in sales for FFBE, so they knew very well that Nier was going to be a massive pay day for them.

The addition of Eve wasn't really for the whales, given that they will be chasing 5*s and get enough 9S regardless of Eve is in there or not; A2 is for the whales.

Eve is just milking it. But I really hope they make Eve into an actually good unit regardless of his TM.

 

[Euphoria14]

Nier was a huge success in JP as well. There was a graph from 2ch somewhere showing the spike in sales for FFBE, so they knew very well that Nier was going to be a massive pay day for them.

The addition of Eve wasn't really for the whales, given that they will be chasing 5*s and get enough 9S regardless of Eve is in there or not; A2 is for the whales.

Eve is just milking it. But I really hope they make Eve into an actually good unit regardless of his TM.

Eve was made so 9S is harder to obtain. There is no denying that.

They are hopeful that non-whales begin spending more money once their attempts at obtaining 9S fails.

F2P users? Gumi don't care about them. Changes like this hurts them the most. Nothing like saving up resources only to see something like this happen, which is a direct slap to the face.

If Eve TM was good it wouldn't sting so much, but they have thus far seemed to design him in the worst possible way for maximum fuckery.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Romancing Saga and the other Saga games were released in the US (only RomaSaga remake on PS2 was released outside Japan; I even remember the NeoGaf thread from long ago). It was never popular like it was in Japan, but its a fully-owned SE IP so it shouldn't be difficult or expensive to get the banner out.

Personally, I would love for it to come to the GL, as I grew up on those games and loved them more than the FF main series, but I'm not holding my breath.

Also, yes, Onion Cutter is OK only, but its 520% 16 hit non-elemental. Meaning that two of him can hit elemental and normal chain cap, and you can basically put on required weapons to lenghten nearly any chain, the rest you can leave to finishers.



Nier was a huge success in JP as well. There was a graph from 2ch somewhere showing the spike in sales for FFBE, so they knew very well that Nier was going to be a massive pay day for them.

The addition of Eve wasn't really for the whales, given that they will be chasing 5*s and get enough 9S regardless of Eve is in there or not; A2 is for the whales.

Eve is just milking it. But I really hope they make Eve into an actually good unit regardless of his TM.

Oh you're right about Saga, for some reason I was thinking of the SD3 banner which is the one that probably won't come here. In that case I think I'm going to just get my 3 9S and out like originally planned. If I get 2B or A2 in that cool.

 

[DrROBschiz]

Eve was made so 9S is harder to obtain. There is no denying that.

They are hopeful that non-whales begin spending more money once their attempts at obtaining 9S fails.

F2P users? Gumi don't care about them. Changes like this hurts them the most. Nothing like saving up resources only to see something like this happen, which is a direct slap to the face.

If Eve TM was good it wouldn't sting so much, but they have thus far seemed to design him in the worst possible way for maximum fuckery.

Its a decent TM for newbs and f2play though

Especially those who dont farm TMs and use moogles on the big stuff

Arent our expectations skewed a bit here?

 

[Euphoria14]

Its a decent TM for newbs and f2play though

Especially those who dont farm TMs and use moogles on the big stuff

Arent our expectations skewed a bit here?

Probably yes, but it's aggravating for me because ive been saving and ignoring all other banners, preparing for this one because I want a 9S, so if I end up not getting one, but end up with multiple Eve's, I will be beyond livid because I would have gotten screwed by this troll addition.

He could have simply been added to the Gacha Raid if the intent was to help new players. His TM is basically the same as the other Raid Gacha unit Adam, just replaces ATK boost with DEF boost.

His TM is worse than the banner 3* for goodness sake.

 

[Doctor_No]

Its a decent TM for newbs and f2play though

Especially those who dont farm TMs and use moogles on the big stuff

Arent our expectations skewed a bit here?

Yeah, considering the fact we are going to get the Moogles from the raids its a damn fine TM. It just not BiS for anyone, but considering the lapis cost and time needed to farm that you won't have to deal with, its actually still a solid TM.

 

[Nikokuno]

I don't really get why they create Eve to be such a bad unit (I mean his TM so bad). But as it's GUMI, they explicitly want to balance the game when JP just fuck the meta up.

So Eve is here to dilute 9S uber tier TM but it's not well done. You either have a bad TL or a very good one.

Worst is for now A2 doesn't seems to be good, let's hope it's a monster of a unit, because a lot of 2B chaser are going broke, quitting or getting A2...

 

[Syntsui]

Eve could still be a great unit, just like 9S is a great unit.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

Besides 9S' TM, he's exactly what I'm looking for in a unit for my AAA squad. He's got the 50% breaks which I was in dire need of. He has a water imperil perfect for Tidus since I won't have his LB attack ready at the start of the match. He has damage reduction that apparently works with other units damage reduction. He's perfectly suited for what I want. I'm actually more excited to use him on my team more than anything else.

Even if all he does is alternate between breaks and damage reduction on his turns lol

 

[across]

Romancing Saga and the other Saga games were released in the US (only RomaSaga remake on PS2 was released outside Japan; I even remember the NeoGaf thread from long ago). It was never popular like it was in Japan, but its a fully-owned SE IP so it shouldn't be difficult or expensive to get the banner out.

Romancing Saga 3 has not yet been released outside of JP. News of a localized Android port came out back in March or April, but the game has not materialized. Maybe we'll get the banner when it releases as a cross-promotional opportunity. Maybe not. It's not a reliable thing, regardless.

This is why I don't give them money and others should stop as well. When the whales change their habits, so will Gumi.

Whales don't change habits, they change games. Be careful what you wish for. They're subsidizing this shit for us.

Everyone is complaining about this banner being 'ruined' but no one seems to be keeping in mind that we're getting it four months early with the units and their TMs not nerfed at all. That's no longer a factor because it doesn't feed into the victim mentality people have developed over a gacha game.

By the way, who pre-judges a unit based on their TM? I guess Xon and Ling are trash too.

 

[facepalm007]

Hey everyone!! My coworker got me into this game a few weeks ago, and I'm happy to join you guys!!

If you guys need a friend my ID is 099,961,446 (name EWP).