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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope
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Well damn.
I'm actually at a point where I might not pull on this NIER banner at all, because of how bad the rates are going to be. I don't even know if 9S is worth it.
It will likely take 80 tickets or so just to get a single 9S unit.
And with those 80 Tickets, I could be pulling AFTER rate ups instead, and probably get one or two rainbows.
This whole situation is depressing.
I'm actually at a point where I might not pull on this NIER banner at all, because of how bad the rates are going to be. I don't even know if 9S is worth it.
It will likely take 80 tickets or so just to get a single 9S unit.
And with those 80 Tickets, I could be pulling AFTER rate ups instead, and probably get one or two rainbows.
This whole situation is depressing.
9S is worth it.
Thats basically what I asked in last page (50ppp).
A2's Great Sword is kinda nice as its non-elemental, but it sounds like Gumi is basically just giving us that +125 atk Loto(Erdrick) sword from the DQ event with AOE attack added on. And that was just a normal event sword gotten from a Mog King. So in some sense, this is kinda disappointing.
I sure hope that AOE attack is really nice. It seems like its Beast Lord from the game, the swords lv4 move was "Beast Roar/百獣王の咆哮", it was kinda a forgettable move that didn't really add anything, so I think it'll just be a more powerful Bladeblitz.
DV's enhancements are pretty interesting, incentivizing DH is a bit weird, but given the enhancement to Dark Edge with a bunch of killers, they seem to be setting him up as more of a finisher. But adding Imperil to Impact is the most interesting, I wonder how much it will be, or if it will be as strong as Marie's Anti-element, which is -40% to all elements.
Lack of activation of Full Charge Stomp for DF is a disappointment, especially as Balthier got an activation to his Finisher, but his Full Charge Stomp has gotten a lot more powerful, so I'm guessing they are trying to balance that out. Its also weird how they added the new ability "Double Axe", you fully enhance Flamelord to get access to Double Axe. I guess they are adding new abilities to existing units via enhancements in this way.
For Light Veritas, getting access to Saint Burst from first turn is a pretty big upgrade. That 1600% Hybrid holy attack would be great for OTKO runs as an Orlandeau holy chain finisher. Those increased killer passives are also real nice
I sure hope that AOE attack is really nice. It seems like its Beast Lord from the game, the swords lv4 move was "Beast Roar/百獣王の咆哮", it was kinda a forgettable move that didn't really add anything, so I think it'll just be a more powerful Bladeblitz.
DV's enhancements are pretty interesting, incentivizing DH is a bit weird, but given the enhancement to Dark Edge with a bunch of killers, they seem to be setting him up as more of a finisher. But adding Imperil to Impact is the most interesting, I wonder how much it will be, or if it will be as strong as Marie's Anti-element, which is -40% to all elements.
Lack of activation of Full Charge Stomp for DF is a disappointment, especially as Balthier got an activation to his Finisher, but his Full Charge Stomp has gotten a lot more powerful, so I'm guessing they are trying to balance that out. Its also weird how they added the new ability "Double Axe", you fully enhance Flamelord to get access to Double Axe. I guess they are adding new abilities to existing units via enhancements in this way.
For Light Veritas, getting access to Saint Burst from first turn is a pretty big upgrade. That 1600% Hybrid holy attack would be great for OTKO runs as an Orlandeau holy chain finisher. Those increased killer passives are also real nice
On a 4* unit as well.
Alkez
Member
How do we get it?
DrROBschiz
Member
we dont have movesets for Eve and A2 yet right?
Outside of the on crappy TM im not sure we need to freak out just yet
His TM needs to be +100% def or higher to even be worth talking about though
Outside of the on crappy TM im not sure we need to freak out just yet
His TM needs to be +100% def or higher to even be worth talking about though
I misread that, it's actually an accessory that gives Doublehand, so whoever was playing when they gave Doublehand materia on the Mog King just won the lottery and now has 100%ATK of free stuff basically...
Anything from 100% to 124% will still be trash because we can achieve that with buffs that will be up the entire fight regardless. That shit needs to be 200%+ to be relevant.
DrROBschiz
Member
Ehhh I could see a use
The 100% -124% party buffs are rare and take up a valuable unit slot
Its all about your team build and whether or not this TM has a place. It sucks that its DEF only. I would have preferred a lower modifier if it covered both
Like say 80% Def/Spr when HP drops below 50%. That would be pretty cool for any unit and would allow you to build more offensive teams and use less support units
Summon simulator for Nier Banner here:
https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Summon_Simulator/20170811
TLDR: If you get ONE 9S in 80 pulls, consider your luck good.
https://exvius.gamepedia.com/Summon_Simulator/20170811
TLDR: If you get ONE 9S in 80 pulls, consider your luck good.
Been meaning to post this for a few days now, but haven't had time. On Veritas banner, started with 39 tickets, after 20 with nothing of real note I figured I'd go down to 10 and stop. Lo and behold, magic ticket #25:
Booyah. That gives me a reason to run DKC now. Although Aileen is going to be ready much faster than him. Can DV work okay with her too? Just pleased to finally have some really good DPS units after Luneth was my only for a long time.
Booyah. That gives me a reason to run DKC now. Although Aileen is going to be ready much faster than him. Can DV work okay with her too? Just pleased to finally have some really good DPS units after Luneth was my only for a long time.
I dont think it's a good idea to equip a threshold materia on an offensive unit. Offense unit like Fryevia has little to no def/spr/hp as their stats are focus on atk/mag. Even if it triggers these offense units will most likely still die. If you need def materias, it's better to equip Patriotic Recall as it gives Def/HP without any condition.
These threshold materias are more suitable to supports and tanks like Zarg and Wilhelm, in case they're losing their tanking duties and the def-up on threshold will help them survive as their def/hp are naturally high.
Got 9s in all 3 10+1s to simulate how much lapis I have. Probably wont have as much luck on the actual pulls.
DrROBschiz
Member
Well thats why the modifier has to be high enough to make these worth it
and what funny is that many of these units already have some sort of threshold skill built in
Euphoria14
Member
Knowing that TM won't be anywhere near what 9S is, it makes my blood boil that they tossed in an obvious troll gold on the banner.
DrROBschiz
Member
well the lowest threshold skill is demonic life at 40%
My guess is that it will be 60-80 since its DEF only
But even thats not that great. I just dont expect it to be high enough since the TM is so easy to acquire with moogles and such
I just hope the Eve himself is decent
Euphoria14
Member
Summon simulator gave me (4) 9S in (55) tickets and two 10+1.
Second attempt netted me (1), but gave me a 2B, A2 and a Knight Delita.
Could this be a sign of good things to come?
No way lol.
Edit - 3rd attempt got me 2B and 2x 9S in (28) tickets.
I'm going to be disappointed now.
Second attempt netted me (1), but gave me a 2B, A2 and a Knight Delita.
Could this be a sign of good things to come?
No way lol.
Edit - 3rd attempt got me 2B and 2x 9S in (28) tickets.
I'm going to be disappointed now.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Hot damn this is exciting for my JP account! I managed to snag that DH materia during that MK...
Congrats! I've been using friend DV to chain with my orlandu. Im sure you can do the same, but reverse
I had a dream last night I pulled DV from a daily. Pulled when i woke up and got my 4th EV...
The NYC Fan Fiesta in Oct is open for registration- http://fan-fes.finalfantasyexvius.com/ny/
Too bad I am going on vacation the day before =/
Too bad I am going on vacation the day before =/
October 6? Why would they hold this on the same weekend as NYCC?
hm. I wonder what the gift unit will be? If it was on a weekend I would have probably stopped by, but a Friday complicates things, I don't know my schedule on a weenday that far out.
took me 5 10+1 pulls to get one 9S, but got 3 Eve's before. On ticket summons, got a 9S second try...I hope that is true
Of course Eve would be a troll, Gumi made it just to f*ck up 9S rates.
Troll Eve at 51 / 94 / 130 / 150 tickets
No 9S so far
F*ck this sh*t I'm out.
Troll Eve at 51 / 94 / 130 / 150 tickets
No 9S so far
F*ck this sh*t I'm out.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
So this is going to be me with my luck right guys? This is a guy from reddit that did the simulator:
"I always seem to get stupid good luck on simulators, and I know it won't translate to the actual banner.
First single pull: 2B
First repeat till 5*: 3 pull, 2B and 7 9S
I did the repeat till 5* 6 more times, every single one resulted in a 2B and a pile of 9S in under 5 pulls, except for the final one which resulted in 2B and A2 in the first pull.
I'm calling shenanigans."
"I always seem to get stupid good luck on simulators, and I know it won't translate to the actual banner.
First single pull: 2B
First repeat till 5*: 3 pull, 2B and 7 9S
I did the repeat till 5* 6 more times, every single one resulted in a 2B and a pile of 9S in under 5 pulls, except for the final one which resulted in 2B and A2 in the first pull.
I'm calling shenanigans."
Pejo
Member
Wew. 1st 10 pull got 9S, 2nd 10 pull got 2 A2's and an Eve. 23 10 pulls later to get 2B.
Not sure how to feel.
DrROBschiz
Member
Not good
This banner is nasty... i think
I dunno. 210 TM is awesome. Eve could maybe be a good unit?
9S is awesome. He is basically 6 star Tim though no LB passives...
A2/2B are nice additions though most of us are flush with DPS units
Still if you pull them easy TMs
Not to interrupt another round of Summon Simulator Chicken Little, but here's a quote from Reddit that might be of relevance to people looking at the 2x-100x 9S loadout for 10-man trials or whatever:
So 'make any two units into chainers!' seems to have a condition. Some units have really lengthy/weird attack animations. Caveat emptor.
So 'make any two units into chainers!' seems to have a condition. Some units have really lengthy/weird attack animations. Caveat emptor.
DrROBschiz
Member
oh weird so this is a skill that uses individual attack animations?
Officerrob
Banned
If Eve is a trash unit in addition to having that garbage TM, I'm not going to be happy
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Somewhat like Bladeblitz, assuming I'm reading things right. Unit moves to the center front of the enemy's area then does their attack animation. With Bladeblitz, the attack's frames are the unit's own normal attack frames. With the 9S TM it's likely that they do their animation and then at the end, the frames of the 9S TM attack begin - Ultima Sword from Orlandeau's TM works this way. This is speculation on my part though, so don't write it in your journal.
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
I think I'm going to wait for Friday, try the Veritas banner again, and pull off-banner Nier units.
In fact, I'm now kicking myself for not doing that origInally.
In fact, I'm now kicking myself for not doing that origInally.
Alkez
Member
Yeah that's how I interpreted as well. Which makes chaining dual wield a lot more difficult. This just re-enforces my mindset of going for just 1.
DrROBschiz
Member
I mean
10 man trials require you to find separate units with synergy anyways
So it really doesnt change the current reality. But it is easier to pair up units with known frame data synergy
Using 9S combos will require a new dataset
Daily was Trey. Ok screw this banner I'm done. I bet money I'll pull Victoria or EV off-banner while getting Nier units anyway.
Global exclusive Nier TM's were as bad as I'd dreaded. The obvious guess of Eve's would be 110% def to match his brother Adam's 110% atk buff, no? Is A2's greatsword a passive 20% def or is it auto-protect like Save the Queen? Passive would at least make it a little nicer. The atk also should have been 130 instead of 125.
LOL at the summon simulator. I did a single 11x on Nier and got DV. Yes, that please!
Global exclusive Nier TM's were as bad as I'd dreaded. The obvious guess of Eve's would be 110% def to match his brother Adam's 110% atk buff, no? Is A2's greatsword a passive 20% def or is it auto-protect like Save the Queen? Passive would at least make it a little nicer. The atk also should have been 130 instead of 125.
LOL at the summon simulator. I did a single 11x on Nier and got DV. Yes, that please!
I'm ok with a repeat # dps on the great sword since we won't ever get the dq event ; ; the aoe is yet to be determined... if its bad? whatever high dps neutral... if its good? well hell ya, a new conditional attack~ it's also not limited to 1 unlike mk, that is if well... you're luck or wallet helps you pull multiples
Hippopuncher12
Member
It seems to be a passive 20% increase on A2's sword. If the AoE attack has a good multiplier or hit count, I may actually try to get her. Anything that makes farming faster and easier is a win for me, hence why I am going for 3 9S TM's even though it isn't necessary in any way it will make MK farming easier, and give you a greater chance of using full bonus units. That is worth it to me.
2 A2, it's legit
Congratulations, you killed all chances of an A2 >.>;