Was really wanting a veritas though....i dumped so much on the DV/FV banner to come out empty. I want a full team of veritas to run through story content
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Final Fantasy Brave Exvius |OT5| Our Golden Anniversary Brings Us Hope
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Was really wanting a veritas though....i dumped so much on the DV/FV banner to come out empty. I want a full team of veritas to run through story content
Zippedpinhead
Member
These are currently maxed units, I don't have all of their TMs, but I have then at max level and some are reasonably potted:
5*: DKC (He was replaced by A2), Delita, Greg, Wilhelm, Y'sh
4* chizuru, Xon, Agrias, Setzer, 9S, Zyrus, Soliel, Refia
3*: Exdeath, Bartz (tried to make this work for entrust), Cecil
I rerolled after crystal change when Olive released, and pulled for her and Zidane(s). I had never pulled a single Zidane in 7 months of play on my previous game. Ended up getting olive, Zidane and delita on island one.
Isn't that the same mechanic that gives the T3 esper boss fight items?
For trials:
Wilhelm/WoL
Rikku
Tilith
Zarg/Lunera/Finisher
Chainer
Chainer
For raids:
Elza (if breakable) or Ace (75% Imperil)
FV (80% atk/mag buff)
A2x4 or Fryx4
Benched til enhancements:
Landu x2
DV x2
Tidus x2
Aileen x2
Olive x2
2B
Now I'm wondering why I chased after 2B when I'm not really gonna use her
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
My AAA, yet still unused team, is;
Double Tidus as chainers,
Fire Veritas as a finisher
9S breaker
Tilith healer.
That's in theory, but honestly after seeing what Malboro was all about I don't even think you can plan for anything anymore. Every new trial might require a very case by case specific team.
2B and A2 have given me the opportunity to create a lot more best in slot units though. I have 2 genji gloves but now that I have the Android girls with their inherent dual wields, I can form a lot more teams with nothing but killers. So that's nice, but honestly they aren't game changing. Lighting and Luneth were cool for their dual wield properties, but now with 2b and A2 they've been kicked to the curb.
Well, my group is looking like this:
A2
Tidus
CoD
Orlandu
Noctis
I'm thinking about swapping out Orlandu for 2B since I feel like he doesn't bring much to the table right now and 2B does more damage and chains with everyone else. I did some tests on the Training Dummy just to be sure, but I'm thinking it's a better way to go right now.
On the bench (but generally are regulars in my group):
Aileen (not sure what to do with her...her damage is terrible)
Luneth (I use him still, but he's low on the priority list)
Rem (probably gonna be a situational character)
Dark Fina (situational again)
2B (will probably swap her with Orlandu until his enhancements come)
9S (trying to figure out what his role is gonna be)
Minfillia (seriously useful, so she comes out when things get really hard)
Rikku (also situational)
Primm (I love using her and with her enhancements she's awesome, but situational overall, good for a changeup)
This is what I'm looking at right now. I have other tanks and such that I will swap around as needed, but my main healer is still Y'shtola with Tilith filling in when the situation warrants it.
My group is pretty stacked now, so this is why I don't have a need to do any more pulling for a long time. Now, I just have to get some TMRs to kit out my group.
I know how you feel about the Pod 153 situation, Zera. I put in almost 1000 lapis doing refreshes to try and finish it before the raid ended. I must have run ELT a bunch of times and got ranked below 30,000. Ended up getting him to 85%, so still gonna have to use Trust Moogles to get his TMR finished. It sucks, man. The sad thing is I could have had Beastlord and Virtuous Contract two times if I had two A2s and two 2Bs. No love from the RNG on that front.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
Ok seems like you're running the best setup you can. Very powerful indeed.
For trials:
Wilhelm/WoL
Rikku
Tilith
Zarg/Lunera/Finisher
Chainer
Chainer
For raids:
Elza (if breakable) or Ace (75% Imperil)
FV (80% atk/mag buff)
A2x4 or Fryx4
Benched til enhancements:
Landu x2
DV x2
Tidus x2
Aileen x2
Olive x2
2B
Now I'm wondering why I chased after 2B when I'm not really gonna use her
Your're in a similar boat that I'm in. Too many units and when you can only bring 5 and 2 of those slots are dedicated to a tank/healer. Personally speaking I only bring Rikku out for trial that require bullshit rez mechanics. Now mind you since she was released we've only had two trials but I hope going forward we're not dependent on her gimmick.
Here's my setup before Nier:
Tank - WOL/EV (Now Wilhelm but obtained during Nier)
Healer - Tilith
DPS 1 - Landu
DPS 2 - Landu
DPS 3 - Fryevia (used to be Trance Terra as finisher with dual cast alterna) Landu, Olive, Rem, Noct, Tidus.
Now with pulling 2B and A2 Landu's can be replaced.....but the question really is why would I do that when I have no imperil for 2B or A2! I have no Ace! Yes 2B has a thunder imperil but we don't have any thunder great swords or katanas to allow her to take advantage of it. So what do I do? Replace Fry(pfft NEVA!) with Orlandu and have Landu, 2B, and A2 use holy weapons? Oh that could work.....if every damn boss wasn't holy resistant. For those of you lucky to have Ace, love him. Cherish him, appreciate him LMAO. He makes it easy by having on demand any element imperil. There are other units that have a "build up" imperil such as Ilias and its aoe but it only last one turn and you have to use another ability before it. Ace is unique with his aoe imperil. Is there another unit coming that can do what Ace does?
This team will destroy anything outside of BS trials like Aigion and Malboro. Great job! Having A2 and 2B allows you to give those genjis to other characters as you stated. 9S is a breaker but his breaks are single target which hopefully will change to aoe come enhancements. If that happens he will be an amazing top tier unit. Rikku is situational and I stated above hope we don't have to come to depend on her for every trial coming down the line.
Fuck Eve, that is all. All jokes aside you're pretty stacked now. Question though, why CoD? I haven't heard that name in so long lol. IMO Rem >>>> CoD. Rem with her dagger from the event and some mag/hp tms is an amazing healer and finisher all rolled up into one. Dark Fina enhanced is quit nice as well.
It seems the achievements for this story event are reasonable, just like the last one. No "defeat with esper" thank goodness. I'm not far enough to really comment on the story but it seems better than the last one so far (not that that should be hard to do, the last one was garbage).
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Ace has 75% imperils(fire, lightning, holy) , 9S has 50%(but to an even wider variety of elements fire, lightning, wind, ice, earth, water).
So it depends on your team. Also ace is a great mana battery. 9S has good breaks though and the aoe damage mitigation. Really depends on what you need.
Muku
Member
Yeah, so far enjoying the less bullshitty achievements. All doable. None rage inducing. Thus far. I'm waiting to see what last one is like (without peeking on Exvius Wiki).
I never read story stuff (through the story events) so can't comment on that.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
9s imperil is single target 50%, Ace is aoe and 75%
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
I really hope we don't have to depend on her either. I like her, she's a great unit, but the devs weren't thinking long term when they made her LB. It's too game changing. Especially because she can be built to use it practically every turn. Something like reraise should be utilized when a boss does some big threshold attack or something. Not every damn turn. The Malboro trial really makes me worry about the future of balancing exvius.
Alkez
Member
The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Ling's LB. 64% fire debuff aoe. 18 crystals but she has high tide so should easily get that in 3 turns.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
Only time will tell. I really hope not. Don't get me wrong it is indeed amazing but to have to use it every single trial? That's a bit much and doesn't promote unit diversity (lol!)
Tried that during the Malboro challenge, it pales in comparison to turn on one demand imperial from Ace. Even with Eccentrick running and using Pod 153's chain i'd sometimes not get it and that just ruins the run when trying to use the strat do burn the adds down by turn 4.
Hmmm...I tried running with Rem during the Nier raid event and she kept getting killed on the first round and the damage she did wasn't up to snuff so it was giving me a hard time. I switched back to CoD and could clear it 99% of the time since she could take the hits and dish out some damage, too. On top of that Return is good. I don't know, man. I just kinda feel like CoD just meshes better with my playstyle than other characters. I've tried to move her out, but end up putting her back in, so Noctis and CoD are always in my main group unless something very specific is needed for the fight and I have to change things up. Most enemies we go up against are humanoid, so she does some pretty good damage normally. I think mine is sitting at 700 ATK or something like that. I wish we had Throwing Weapon Mastery or something as she could REALLY use that.
I'd like to get Rem in a good place, but I can't get her to work for me, so I just use her as the situation demands. I think she has 700 MAG or something and I have the dagger from the event, too. Probably should get another dual wield for a caster to use since I think it could really help.
Dark Fina I used to use often along with Terra. The two of them can do some damage, but since they don't have a lot of HP and getting them prepped for something serious is hard, I don't have them in my main group. Terra used to be a staple, but as content got harder I couldn't keep her alive so she had to be moved to the situational group. I can't get the most out of Dark Fina, but I think I need to take her to the Training Dummy to figure out how her main move works. Something I haven't invested a lot of time in learning. Still, Terra and Dark Fina are on my mage crew should that be called for. I think I got both of their MAG above 600 (almost 700) without dual wielding. Need to work on some caster TMRs sometime in the near future. A shame I never got Ace, but maybe one day.
Zera_Bloodwinter
Member
A solution for the hp issue for Rem/D. Fina was the sage's pranja tm from the FF14 raid. Regarding Dark Finna, awaken ultima to +10 and it becomes chainable and awaken retaliate to +2 for a 60% mag increase when she using her counter attack. Also was your COD hp potted and your Rem not? 390 hp makes a difference. I hear you though if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Alkez
Member
Yeah I really think passive healing is the way forward. When I play JP and use Basch he just heals himself back to full and I end up thinking "What do I do with Fina this turn?". Obviously sometimes the tank doesn't cover, but with 9S TM's passive healing and Mechanical Hearts I feel it could be sufficient.
You're definitely right about the state of the game. I feel like we're at a point where there's so much exploration and creativity available. And now we have a little bit of down time it's a good time to test this stuff.
Yeah that's the problem with LBs. I kind of wish the crystals were evenly distributed and not done at random. It makes it difficult to build a team around them.
Yeah this is part of why I'm trying to cut out the healer. There's just not enough unit slots. And when you need 2 units to just be purely DPS at the very least you're left with only 2 unit slots for any sort of creativity. I think we're on the right track though.
It's funny that you keep bringing up things that I've been looking into today. So here's the (very basic) numbers I got when doing damage comparison between Orlandu and A2. Both are using what I believe is BiS for attack alone, and the numbers are against an enemy with 100 defence.
For simplicity I'm just assuming both spark chain. In reality it's not that simple and definitely gives an edge to elemental weapon in regards to consistency. Anyways:
Orlandu
Attack - 1,096
Max Potential Buff - 120% (Soleil)
Damage (after imperial) - 318,620
A2
Attack - 1,176 (I'm unsure on this as I swear I've seen more but this is what I'm using on the calc)
Max Potential Buff - 250% (self)
Damage (no imperial) - 420,719
In essence the self buff makes up for the lack of imperial and then some. But you have to spend a turn using it and it's not that strong.
Over 4 turns, Orlandu will do 318,620 x7 + 212,413 for the turn he has to imperial (but this only applies to the first turn), which comes to 2.4 million damage. Outside of the first turn the damage comes to 2.5 million.
Over 4 turns A2 will do 378,647 on the LB turn, and then 420,719 x6, which is 2.9 million damage.
TLDR: A2s self buff makes up for the fact she doesn't have elemental imperial in a very general sense.
Apologies if I've made mistakes in the numbers or how I've interpreted the mechanics of the game.
I think my CoD has all pots except HP. Those are precious and went to Terra, Dark Fina, Y'shtola, and WoL. I wish I got them more often, but that's where I'm at now. I think I have a few that I need to give out, but I'm not sure where to direct them now. Might give a couple to Rem to deal with her HP situation. Just not sure how many resources I want to invest in her at the moment. Heh, CoD is my girl and she gets to team up with 2B now. It's awesome.
Have a couple of Sages Pranja's and Dark Fina has one. I think Terra has the other. Thinking about this, I may do some upkeep on those characters to see where they're at currently. Gotta wait a couple of hours as they're out on Expedition at the moment.
You know, I'm glad I got A2, because before this event, I never even considered what the advantage of chaining was. After watching the videos that Valentus did and practicing at the Training Dummy, I fully understand it now and how powerful it can be. I don't like it, but I understand it and can use it if I need to. Wish it wasn't really necessary and I wish they would find a better balance of Dual Wield vs. Doublehand. Having every good character dual wield is boring as hell and makes me not interested in messing around with that meta.
Stupid robot raid sucked, but I learned something so it wasn't all bad.
Seriously. I'm trying to finish off the stupid key hunting thing to get the large sword reward (can't remember the name), and it just adds so much crap to my equipment list. Since a lot of it is unique gear, I tend to keep it until we can craft it or buy it from the store. Not even sure what I'm gonna do about the gear we're gonna get from the story event going on right now. I have 2 slots left...I don't want to throw more lapis at the problem, but looks like I'm gonna have to.
Broseybrose
Member
Wow, Im such a hoarder!
254/255 equipment slots!
And that's AFTER getting rid of (most) stuff that can be bought or crafted.
edit- I'd say the most useless equips in my inventory that Ive thought about selling are Mage's Habit, which can be crafted, but I keep because its clothes and not robe.
The other is Kitchen Knife which I keep because its unique, does decent damage, and you can never have too many daggers! It's usually equipped by someone on my TM team.
edit2 Are the summon banners screwed up for anyone else?
When I click summon I see the daily which is normal. Next is Malboro Killers. Under that is Rare Summon. which when I click, show the Veritas 2 units. Its weird.
Just saw this - https://be.reddit.com/r/FFBraveExvius/comments/6vzmpb/veritas_summon_banner_taken_down/
indigo-cyclops
Member
What's up all? How's everyone pulls go today, that is, if you did any? Haven't had time to catch up in the thread yet. I'm desperate for EXP so I decided once I get VOL awkaned to 6 I'm going to feed my never used, maxed Xiao and Nine dupes to her.
CrimsonSquall
Member
I havent done the nox emulator thing in like 6months. Has anything changed? Is there a new guide?
I neead get some cecil excals bc I just got Orlando Bloom and another blade mastery so much appreciated
I neead get some cecil excals bc I just got Orlando Bloom and another blade mastery so much appreciated
Alkez
Member
After running some detailed numbers I feel like 2B is a little undervalued. The high hit count of speed and the high modifier of extract speed practically make up for the turn you have to spend using her imperial. Once Grom releases with his Lightning Greatsword TM I'm thinking to run her in my "main team". She works nicely with Earth Veritas Might Hammer LB spam and Noctis Greatsword LB spam.
Plus her normal attack animation is lit lol.
I wish I could, but I'm trying to get some unit space so I can accept all the expiring burst pots from my inbox (I have one that has 8 minis in them). Plus the banner seems to be afk lol.
Plus her normal attack animation is lit lol.
I wish I could, but I'm trying to get some unit space so I can accept all the expiring burst pots from my inbox (I have one that has 8 minis in them). Plus the banner seems to be afk lol.
I'm thinking... like hoooooooww? I Tm farm like a mofo and keep stuff I can't reobtain and I'm at 188/195, maybe you outfit your expedition people better or something...
Broseybrose
Member
Not really... My expedition units have 10 Moogle Spears spread across them but that only counts as 1 equip slot... I really dont know either haha.
Im sure I havent TM farmed as much as you have. Ive farmed like maybe 10-15 equips.
Its probably just that I keep a lot of junk that could actually be re-crafted.
But I honestly feel like most of it is unique stuff from story and events. Like I just got 2 armors and 5-6 weapons from this past raid alone. It really adds up.
I keep all unique weapons and armor and anything that my units use a lot of. I'm at 258/260 right now. Not sure how you guys don't have a lot of space used. With all of the gear we get from events and doing quests and stuff, I rack up a lot of items. Some I can sell, others, can't. Though, I'll admit that I do keep some items that take a lot of mats to craft. Like if an item takes 20 Light Megacrysts, then I keep it. Using 20 light megacrysts for some item isn't worth it and I already have one made, so no point in selling it only to maybe have to make it again in the future.
Broseybrose
Member
Im glad at least one person on here has me beat!
Hippopuncher12
Member
My equipment is at 262/265 right now. I try to get all event equipment that has either an effect or element. I only get rid of things that you can buy or make with a recipe.
Also looks like they fixed the banner.
Also looks like they fixed the banner.
420 ahead of me D: Totally jelly~
jasminlovesyoux
Banned
Daily, adding to the TM farm list
bonkeng doing what he does best....pull Rainbows lawl - congrats.
I was talking about saving up but after seeing your pull i just used my 3 Tickets on that banner. No Rainbow.....but Hayate dupe, Rasler dupe and Veritas of Heaven....cant complain.
Alkez
Member
Louis Vuitton lol. I like that. Congrats. Yet another rainbow to add to the collection. She seems pretty strong. Do you have Hope's TM?
Ranked up so I finished the story event,that was pretty weak, at least I got some T4 support and power as drops.
This is what I did, kept the ones with special abilities like 5% evade though.
This is what I did, kept the ones with special abilities like 5% evade though.
Thanks. Yeah I do have Nue, 2 in fact.
I wonder what her BiS looks like. Never really thought about it since I wasn't interested in her. Fry's Needle isn't so good as well since it's tied to Ice. Hmmm.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Nice, congrats! I still haven't got any of the other veritas on this banner , just LV.
Let me know if ya find more info on her BiS. I'm really interested to try her and have been thinking about her equip.
Seems like LV currently can only get to 946 mag. But thankfully, her multipliers are quite high. She'll be a great finisher for a double Landu team.
Thanks Yoshi.
And holy shit at her LB. If you didn't ask, I wouldn't have checked. AoE 12.2x multiplier plus 74% def/spr break.
Might as well use some LB pots on her.
Glad I was of some help, lol.
Her LB is one of the many reasons why she looks so amazing. Given that recent trails, like Malboro/Aigarion, are either/or both DER/SPR breakable, its becoming increasingly relevant. Especially as its an AoE break.
-74% break is equivalent to ~3.8x damage you can do compared to an unbroken equivalent. Which is just bonkers.
Euphoria14
Member
Facebook is down and I can't play FFBE... ugh.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Yea I didn't even realize how good that looks...already awkaned her but I will definitely Max her out!