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[Squall ASF]

Position of units matters for two things afaik:

Leftmost units have the highest chance of being blocked by tanks.

Certain units like Aileen that have movement in their chain ability will need to account for distance from the enemy and their partner as well to chain effectively.

Interesting, I'll have to observe who WoL protects more now but I do believe Noctis is one of those he does the most and he's on the left side. I haven't noticed him protecting the back left more than Refia but if he does, I'd behoove me to swap her and Rikku.

Hmm I wonder if it'd be smarter to have Tidus in the back since Quick Hit is...quick haha Maybe it'd chain better? Probably optimum to have him in the same row as Rikku to chain with Tidal Wave although it seems as though it works fairly well as is. I haven't tried it with just the two of them so I can't be sure, normally have everyone attacking at once against Mog King so hard to weed out where it's all coming from. Especially since I know friend Orlandeus are a big contributor. Noctis sure isn't participating much with Warp Break though ha Maybe one of the moves he has in Japan chains well, I don't recall.

 

[tuffymon]

Interesting, I'll have to observe who WoL protects more now but I do believe Noctis is one of those he does the most and he's on the left side. I haven't noticed him protecting the back left more than Refia but if he does, I'd behoove me to swap her and Rikku.
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It's always weird to me really, they say that tanks will block the upper left, mid, bot left etc more so than other slots... but you'd think in relation to party dynamics... I'd want my healer in the damn back.

 

[PantherLotus]

Listen guys I got it bad. I'm about to pull a 500. I shouldn't.

 

[Celegus]

Listen guys I got it bad. I'm about to pull a 500. I shouldn't.

Never worth it!

 

[Syntsui]

Nothing is worth it when you don't pull what you want, do it!

 

[PantherLotus]

Also that +130 spear can't be dual wielded.

 

[Squall ASF]

It's always weird to me really, they say that tanks will block the upper left, mid, bot left etc more so than other slots... but you'd think in relation to party dynamics... I'd want my healer in the damn back.

For real, we've been conditioned with older RPGs and this plays and looks like one...

Listen guys I got it bad. I'm about to pull a 500. I shouldn't.

Don't do it! Absolutely no reason to!

 

[Kouriozan]

Random pull is good because you naturally don't expect much from it.

Spoiler

Spend ya Lapisssss

 

[Celegus]

Also that +130 spear can't be dual wielded.

Wasn't sure I'd even pick that up given the low rates. Is there ever a point to it? Especially considering I have Reberta's spear and a ton of other weapon TMs.

Random pull is good because you naturally don't expect much from it.

Spoiler

Spend ya Lapisssss

But I don't expect anything from any summon. Don't expect trash because then it just reaffirms your suspicions, don't expect good things cause then you'll be let down. Expect nothing and everything is a surprise!

 

[Syntsui]

Wasn't sure I'd even pick that up given the low rates. Is there ever a point to it? Especially considering I have Reberta's spear and a ton of other weapon TMs.

Best weapon for Aranea that is not her TM.

 

[PantherLotus]

Wasn't sure I'd even pick that up given the low rates. Is there ever a point to it? Especially considering I have Reberta's spear and a ton of other weapon TMs.

I picked it up without looking / knowing it needed 2 hands. Could be useful someday if we get a materia that adds more ATK than the extra weapon would have? Maybe?

 

[across]

What is DKC BiS?
Is Brotherhood required in order for him to reach 1K ATK (after enhancement)?

I don't think you'd want to split his element like that. Soul Eater is innately dark so he doesn't need to use an elemental weapon, unlike Orlandeau or Aileen. So use either dark weapons or non-elemental weapons.

Genji Blade + Deathbringer if you don't need to give the DB to someone else to benefit from the dark element. Save The Queen otherwise? Just depends on what you have and what mastery materia you already have tied up in someone else.

 

[Squall ASF]

lol honestly just play how you like. I just advise F2P players don't give in to their impulses so easily. Lapis is hard to come by if you don't buy it and constantly bleed it out with dailies let alone a 500 pull! You know what would actually be tempting and get people to toss all kinds of lapis at? Selling 10% TM Moogles for lapis. You could argue gamers might get too OP but honestly, if you're not spending lapis for summons you won't have the units/TMs to throw the moogles at anyway. If anything it'd motivate whales to chase more TMs which I think would out weigh what they spend on refreshes for Macro farming.

 

[Kouriozan]

If it were me I'd just hoard forever, boy it'll feel good to unload everything into Onion Knight

Spoiler

then get Lightning and throw the tablet into the wall

Otherwise 3* EX and 10+1 tickets are going to wait until 3% rates.

 

[Celegus]

lol honestly just play how you like. I just advise F2P players don't give in to their impulses so easily. Lapis is hard to come by if you don't buy it and constantly bleed it out with dailies let alone a 500 pull! You know what would actually be tempting and get people to toss all kinds of lapis at? Selling 10% TM Moogles for lapis. You could argue gamers might get too OP but honestly, if you're not spending lapis for summons you won't have the units/TMs to throw the moogles at anyway. If anything it'd motivate whales to chase more TMs which I think would out weigh what they spend on refreshes for Macro farming.

There's definitely value in how long it takes to get a TM though, even for whales. Even with constantly refreshing, it takes a little while to get one to 100%. Having a way to get them instantly be far less engaging and way more into "pay to win" territory. That would be an absolutely horrible thing to do for the game's health in general.

 

[RedZaraki]

I'm actually not chasing any 5* until the next crystal update (3%). Or Cloud, whichever comes first.

My team is pretty strong, Onion Knight etc. won't be worth all my lapis.


I will pull for an occassional 4*, but I don't think any as good as Rikku for a while. So really, I'm in TMR farm and hoard mode for the next few months.

 

[Kouriozan]

Hmm, let's say I'm at 40k lapis for convenience reason and throw that into the simulator.

Not enough! Need to reach 90%!!

By the way, that was me 4 months ago :

Ok, with my 5k Lapis and 35 tickets I got a new plan.

-5K lapis for the guaranted 5* I regret otherwise I would be at almost 45k T-T
Didn't buy any bundles/lapis since then.

 

[Squall ASF]

There's definitely value in how long it takes to get a TM though, even for whales. Even with constantly refreshing, it takes a little while to get one to 100%. Having a way to get them instantly be far less engaging and way more into "pay to win" territory. That would be an absolutely horrible thing to do for the game's health in general.

You can still control it like have a bundle with x amount of them per banner or even month. I don't mean literally buy as many as you have lapis for but offering such bundles in general. I'm under the impression though that whales knock out TMs in a matter of days because I always see them in Arena geared to the gills.

 

[Whales]

Position of units matters for two things afaik:

Leftmost units have the highest chance of being blocked by tanks.

wow really?

so I should put tilith and rikku on the left?

pretty dumb...

 

[jtan]

Used my ex tickets on my second account and got garbage. Was bored at work and decided to do the same on my main account, not expecting much but... rngeesus blessed me with a second Tidus!

 

[Celegus]

Used my ex tickets on my second account and got garbage. Was bored at work and decided to do the same on my main account, not expecting much but... rngeesus blessed me with a second Tidus!

 

[Muku]

You have Abel? Bowie Knife is even better on Yun than DW.

I do actually. I kept the two Abel's I've gotten so far. I was thinking more DW for Yun + two Kaiser Knuckles. But now you mention it, it might be an interesting change up.

But am curious, would for someone like Yun, it not matter as much in off-hand? I just get feeling with some units, like Delita where they hit once because their animation doesn't lend to it, that all that matters is in the main hand. With Yun, he hits a lot, but just wondering if it doesn't even matter what is in OH now.

 

[Celegus]

I do actually. I kept the two Abel's I've gotten so far. I was thinking more DW for Yun + two Kaiser Knuckles. But now you mention it, it might be an interesting change up.

But am curious, would for someone like Yun, it not matter as much in off-hand? I just get feeling with some units, like Delita where they hit once because their animation doesn't lend to it, that all that matters is in the main hand. With Yun, he hits a lot, but just wondering if it doesn't even matter what is in OH now.

Yun definitely gets more out of Bowie Knife + Kaiser than 2 Kaiser. He's an amazing chainer with Setzer if you have him too.

 

[Muku]

Yun definitely gets more out of Bowie Knife + Kaiser than 2 Kaiser. He's an amazing chainer with Setzer if you have him too.

Sweet, thank you. Will put Bowie Knife on list for Yun then. Thinking after Black Cowl, I'm going to work on building up Yun.

I have Setzer as well, but felt good when Orlandu came out and chained with him. Kept him on team. I have a Setzer built up that I use from time to time. I like Setzer, but got a few characters I like to use in group so hard to swap him in these days, haha.

Edit: Thinking maybe Bowie Knife, then Kaiser Knuckle, then Yun's own TM after Black Cowl. His chestpiece gives ups to knuckle weapons if I recall right.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Argh, decided to log into my GL alternate account for the heck of it and pull and of course I pull Zarg on a single, lone ticket. Haha

Oh well!

 

[Zera_Bloodwinter]

Listen guys I got it bad. I'm about to pull a 500. I shouldn't.

Now that right there is a waste. Don't.

 

[tuffymon]

Listen guys I got it bad. I'm about to pull a 500. I shouldn't.

Last time you mentioned it you had like 1500 lapis, I'd recommend passing, but in the end it's your choice.

 

[SixMachine]

Just pulled Orlandude from 10+1 anniversary pull. Currently just using WoL, Setzer, Yun, Rikku, and Orlandude to dps event raid down. Though in harder content I wonder if I'm overloading WoL since he basically has to break, buff and tank. Before my pull today, I used Eliza since she can break and a side dps. I do use Yshtola for healing whenever I actually need her, but with Rikku being able to throw out limits each turn, healing isn't too big of a deal. Though biggest issue is mp on longer fights, though I do throw Ling on teams if I ever need her but luckily I still have chocolate I rarely use.

 

[PantherLotus]

I have 2200 atm

 

[Muku]

I have 2200 atm

That's good.. but I don't think the 500 will be worth it.

I have the itches to pull tonight though myself. Staying strong. Well, mostly.

I used 4 EX tickets on alt because... ugh. Damnit. I need to pull. Maybe this will help yall stay away from pulling:

x1 Duane
x1 Blue -> Gold -> Refia
x1 Alma
x1 Fang

Yeah, okay. But I still want to pull. ;_;

 

[StrikeNinja24]

If it were me I'd just hoard forever, boy it'll feel good to unload everything into Onion Knight

Spoiler

then get Lightning and throw the tablet into the wall

Otherwise 3* EX and 10+1 tickets are going to wait until 3% rates.

So Summer 2019.

 

[tuffymon]

I was thinking about it... could the robot trial cause moogle capes to shine? As is, we know none of us will probably have a unit that can survive the tko the robot does every round... but having a 20% magic dodge on your tank will occasionally let him live at least a turn.

 

[Whales]

I have 2200 atm

why would you wanna do a 500 pull though?

which banner?

 

[tuffymon]

I have 2200 atm

Use memu or nox to go through the trouble of a second instance and pull with the starting stuff. I hear all the fest rewards and such are there, get like 25 pulls to scratch that itch...

 

[Rixa]

I'm actually not chasing any 5* until the next crystal update (3%). Or Cloud, whichever comes first.

My team is pretty strong, Onion Knight etc. won't be worth all my lapis.


I will pull for an occassional 4*, but I don't think any as good as Rikku for a while. So really, I'm in TMR farm and hoard mode for the next few months.

I hope you will spend some tix / dailies to Nier banner, so that you atleast get 3* unit 21O. Screw the unit, its the must TM for tank you want.

Thats my plan, I might even toss 1-2 multis to Nier banner. Not sure how trap banner it is but those units are gone after banner goes away (maybe they come back in 6 months or so). Usually getting 3* unit from banner should be fairly easy, but you never know.

Of course, if one thinks he/she doesn't do TM farming nor don't want to chase other units in that banner. Then one can skip it.

For me that 21O Ability Materia would fill the 4th slot in Wilhelm build. If I get more 21O the faster I get that TM .

 

[robotuw]

Here's the fun question with the Noctis de-nerf. If they give us JP Noctis then they have to debuff his flasks, since they have a higher damage modifier on global. Think they will?

 

[bonkeng]

Listen guys I got it bad. I'm about to pull a 500. I shouldn't.

Never ever pull a 500. Chances of being disappointed = 99.5%.

Last time i pulled a 500 was before 1/2 dailies was implemented.

 

[Alkez]

Here's the fun question with the Noctis de-nerf. If they give us JP Noctis then they have to debuff his flasks, since they have a higher damage modifier on global. Think they will?

I think the issue is they said they want to buff him, and people have instantly taken that is he's being changed to JP Noctis. I really doubt that will be they case. Here's what I think they'll do:

Leave the flasks
Buff warp break
Add true warp break
Adjust the passives
Buff the LB
Leave Ring of Lucii

I really can't see them changing a TMR. I think it sets a bad precedent. I mean this whole thing does tbh but they're doing it anyway so could happen.

 

[Rixa]

Here's the fun question with the Noctis de-nerf. If they give us JP Noctis then they have to debuff his flasks, since they have a higher damage modifier on global. Think they will?

I think the issue is they said they want to buff him, and people have instantly taken that is he's being changed to JP Noctis. I really doubt that will be they case. Here's what I think they'll do:

Leave the flasks
Buff warp break
Add true warp break
Adjust the passives
Buff the LB
Leave Ring of Lucii

I really can't see them changing a TMR. I think it sets a bad precedent. I mean this whole thing does tbh but they're doing it anyway so could happen.

Only thing I hope from the buff is the TM buff .

 

[Syntsui]

The only thing that makes me excited for Noctis buff is the TM lmao.

 

[tuffymon]

Well... last day of vault did a good job.

 

[Squall ASF]

Zero chance TMR doesn't get buffed IMO. There are two major differences that Global players will expect, the TMR and his ultimate move, the Zero Shift Warp or whatever it's called. Those two should be bare minimum and I'd expect a Warp Break buff too. No precedent will be set no matter what they do because this is the only unit to have been nerfed and they already said they won't nerf again. It's the only major protag that's not pretty much identical to Japan, it'd be unacceptable to not address that and would piss fans off. They had a legit reason to nerf him initially and that reason is no longer valid, we're close enough to Japan by their own admission and it's no coincidence they are looking into buffing him now. Make him Japan Noctis and call it a day, this issue won't have to come up ever again as there won't be further nerfs. If there's a few minor differences I'm sure that will be fine but the aforementioned two are a must.

 

[Alkez]

So no notifications. Weird.

Only thing I hope from the buff is the TM buff .

The only thing that makes me excited for Noctis buff is the TM lmao.

It's just my prediction haha. Could be wrong.

 

[bonkeng]

Daily 3rd Ashe!

After the 7 straight dailies of Wakkas during ff10's banner, ff12 gave me 2 Ashe, 1 Rasler and Zargapalooza as dailies.

 

[Kouriozan]

So Summer 2019.

Honestly I wouldn't be mad about it, I can endure that.

 

[Rixa]

Daily 3rd Ashe!

After the 7 straight dailies of Wakkas during ff10's banner, ff12 gave me 2 Ashe, 1 Rasler and Zargapalooza as dailies.

Grats . Mine was Shera .

Vault indeed was great.

 

[Kouriozan]

Daily Shantotto, 6 daily summons, no banner units.
Gumi please. With that sort of luck I'm not pulling anytime soon.

18 Star Quartz, 2 Burst pot and 2 T4 crysts of each for the last vault day.

 

[Alkez]

I got Jack which isn't horrible as that's my 4th, but man I want Ashe!

 

[Zera_Bloodwinter]

When gumi knows you desperately need star quartz and then you walk into todays vault. Thank you based gumi.

 

[Syntsui]

Oh for fuck's sake I just pulled a dupe Zargarbanzo.