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[bonkeng]

I'm leaning on hard pulling for Veritas banner instead of Nier.

I'm not too interested in 2B, but I want atleast two 9S. And Nier banner will most likely also have double 5* base as well because of GL exclusive A2.

Veritas banner features Dark Veritas. Which is arguably better than 2B. The rest of the banner units are also quite good, whether as a party member or TM units.

The only dark horse here is the 2 GL exclusive Nier units. We don't know how good they'll be. We might get a Fryevia situation where we will have an extremely OP unit that's far ahead of the current meta, or a Reberta situation where the unit is just good enough for the current meta.

I wouldn't mind two Dark Veritas for the sake of all-dark chaining with DKC finisher; Chaining with Orlandeau would become hybrid holy-dark, and reduce damage DKC enhanced Soul Eater finisher can do in holy-dark setup.

Fire Veritas, I wouldn't care for more than one of him given he's a finisher.

There's absolutely no need to pull for a second Dark Veritas if you already have Orlandu, unless you really need his TM badly.

Orlandu and Dark Veritas will be bff when it comes to Light and Dark imperil and as long as you have 2 of each Excalibur and Deathbringer. Orlandu and DV reduces 50% Light and Dark element respectively, but their attacks are not tied to any element. If you want Dark imperil, just equip both with Deathbringers and let DV attack first. If you want Light, equip Excaliburs and let Orlandu attacks first.

DKC can finish an Orlandu+DV dark-chaining together.

 

[PantherLotus]

-- people souring on this banner awful quickly IMO. Or at least say they are.

-- as for me, i'm sitting on 26 tickets and 5600ish Lapis

-- returning to an earlier conversation about the value of NRG in refreshes for TMs vs. half-price pulls, because i'm a masochist. those of you avoiding half-price pulls in the name of BIS equip .. which exact BIS do you not already have but you have the unit(s) for? what exactly is this lapis savings going into that players of your stature don't already have?

-- i ask because i basically have all the BIS I can actually grab with the units I already have, outside of the very-nice-to-have stuff like ribbons and whatnot. am i totally overlooking some set of BIS equip or do y'all just have that many backlogged TMs? And what are they?

 

[robotuw]

-- people souring on this banner awful quickly IMO. Or at least say they are.

-- as for me, i'm sitting on 26 tickets and 5600ish Lapis

-- returning to an earlier conversation about the value of NRG in refreshes for TMs vs. half-price pulls, because i'm a masochist. those of you avoiding half-price pulls in the name of BIS equip .. which exact BIS do you not already have but you have the unit(s) for? what exactly is this lapis savings going into that players of your stature don't already have?

-- i ask because i basically have all the BIS I can actually grab with the units I already have, outside of the very-nice-to-have stuff like ribbons and whatnot. am i totally overlooking some set of BIS equip or do y'all just have that many backlogged TMs? And what are they?

I'm missing way too many 5*'s to have BiS for anyone, but my current TM slate is 4x Rasler and Lunera. Those will go on WoL (Tank) and Lunera (niche dps) herself. Next up after that is Queen 2x (for dps survivability), Rikku (utility), Dark Fina (mage dps) and 9S (more utility). You can see most of those aren't essential but instead of all-offense it's now more about defense and flexibility. Most of the units coming up offer slight-to-moderate improvements on stuff I already have (eg. Dark Veritas TM, Tim's hat, Victoria's robe, Weirei's TM). The big things, in my mind, are TMs that are completely unique, like 9S' TM.

 

[Shouta]

[JP Rainbow on the FFIV with a 4* ticket...3rd Nyx.



When possible Shouta. Have two Ifrit stones now. Dont worry about putting shiva on him though.

Edit: Ten normal tickets later, another rainbow. Dark Fina. Dont think youll be displacing CG Sakura newcomer...10 normal tickets 3 4*+, 2 rainbows, 7 golds, 3 blues. One banner gold, two banner blues...that was an incredible run of tickets, nothing massively useful for my account but really Can t complain about that ratio...

Edit 2: Scratch that. I had only used 9 normal tickets out of 20 so was sitting on an uneven 11. It would have been 6 golds in that case, not 7. Wouldnt want to make a liar out of myself and the unevenness of the 11 annoyed me. Pulled it, why not. Rainbow no:3...Lightning. Really dont know how Im suppossed to feel...

I can put it up now. Just let me know when you get it done so I can switch back to Yang for the event.

10 tickets and a daily got me no Kain or Rydia. I used up my luck on Elfried.

At least my Yang has almost 1000 attack.

 

[Syntsui]

I'm so glad I got Rydia to pair up with William. Her animations are soooooo cute.

I wasted like 15k lapis chasing a dupe William until I completely gave up on him, it looks like my boldness was rewarded in the long term.

The 40NRG is way too hard for me without a friend Rydia to chain though (I'm only bringing bonus units + Aranea), there is only one person in my friend list with her at the moment >.>

 

[Doctor_No]

There's absolutely no need to pull for a second Dark Veritas if you already have Orlandu, unless you really need his TM badly.

Orlandu and Dark Veritas will be bff when it comes to Light and Dark imperil and as long as you have 2 of each Excalibur and Deathbringer. Orlandu and DV reduces 50% Light and Dark element respectively, but their attacks are not tied to any element. If you want Dark imperil, just equip both with Deathbringers and let DV attack first. If you want Light, equip Excaliburs and let Orlandu attacks first.

DKC can finish an Orlandu+DV dark-chaining together.

Maybe I'm not understanding it completely, but my understanding is D. Veritas + Orlandeau chain is going to be a holy+dark chain with -50% Imperil each. DKC has a -100% Imperil, meaning that if its hybrid Light /Dark element you're you're doing less damage as dark will be 100% and Light only 50%.

But you seem to be suggesting that whomever starts the chain will make it that element. So Orlandeau starting the chain would make it light chain, and D. Veritas will be dark, rather than both Holy + Dark dual element?

What about units like Lunera and Bran that have dual-elemental moves Wind+ Light and Thunder+Light respectively?

 

[Alkez]

-- returning to an earlier conversation about the value of NRG in refreshes for TMs vs. half-price pulls, because i'm a masochist. those of you avoiding half-price pulls in the name of BIS equip .. which exact BIS do you not already have but you have the unit(s) for? what exactly is this lapis savings going into that players of your stature don't already have?

-- i ask because i basically have all the BIS I can actually grab with the units I already have, outside of the very-nice-to-have stuff like ribbons and whatnot. am i totally overlooking some set of BIS equip or do y'all just have that many backlogged TMs? And what are they?

I think I somewhat raised this earlier so I'll answer in regards to what I said.

Firstly when I said I don't do half priced pulls because all I need is BiS what I meant I have pretty much have all the units in the game outside of 5* bases that provide BiS for my main units, so dailies become more of a loss for me than a gain.

I don't however use my lapis for refreshes because I don't want to spend irl money. So all I'm doing is saving it, so when banners like this come around that provide new BiS I can daily at the very least. There's not much in the way of free lapis for me now so if I don't want to spend money I don't spend lapis where I don't need to.

And because I don't refresh, yeah my backlog really is that big sadly

I'm so glad I got Rydia to pair up with William. Her animations are soooooo cute.

I wasted like 15k lapis chasing a dupe William until I completely gave up on him, it looks like my boldness was rewarded in the long term.

The 40NRG is way too hard for me without a friend Rydia to chain though (I'm only bringing bonus units + Aranea), there is only one person in my friend list with her at the moment >.>

I was going to try but my daily was Cyan. I took this as a sign to not pursue today lol.

 

[Syntsui]

Maybe I'm not understanding it completely, but my understanding is D. Veritas + Orlandeau chain is going to be a holy+dark chain with -50% Imperil each. DKC has a -100% Imperil, meaning that if its hybrid Light /Dark element you're you're doing less damage as dark will be 100% and Light only 50%.

But you seem to be suggesting that whomever starts the chain will make it that element. So Orlandeau starting the chain would make it light chain, and D. Veritas will be dark, rather than both Holy + Dark dual element?

What about units like Lunera and Bran that have dual-elemental moves Wind+ Light and Thunder+Light respectively?

The thing is, Orlandu and Dark Veritas with Deathbringer + Excalibur each as chainers + DKC with Excalibur as finisher will have no set backs due to dual elements.

You click on DKC first and the -100% Dark imperil will be already in play, then you start the chain with Orlandu and the -50% light imperil will be in play, then you finish the chain with Dark Veritas.

DKC will benefit from both imperils on his second hit, Orlandu would benefit from both imperils on his second string (would benefit from the dark one on both strings), Dark Veritas would benefit from both from the get to go because you clicked on Orlandu before him.

There is no need to have two Dark Veritas as you will be missing the light imperil from Orlandu, you would deal much less damage.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

[JP] Cant pull a banner unit to save my life. So far only Edward from a ticket. The remaining tickets from the MK that I've got so far have been all off banner. I got 2 Bran from 4*!! Such bullshit.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

I think this banner will be a test to see who really wants to min-max their units. I don't see Dark Veritas adding much more power to the team. He's definitely a top tier unit, but over what we currently have? Not really. Even the TM is just 10% higher than our current best. So really , if you're the type to want the very best, I can see people pulling.

I however am only planning on pulling for units that are clear power level upgrades. So far I really want Ayaka(best healer), CG Sakura(best magic), and Basch(best tank).

I don't really know who the top damage dealer that will define a new meta will be, but I'm kinda banking on upgrading Tidus with all his enhancements to stay at the top. Maybe it's Cloud though? I'm not sure.

That said, I'll do dailies on this banner unlike our current one, but that's it for me.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

I think this banner will be a test to see who really wants to min-max their units. I don't see Dark Veritas adding much more power to the team. He's definitely a top tier unit, but over what we currently have? Not really. Even the TM is just 10% higher than our current best. So really , if you're the type to want the very best, I can see people pulling.

I however am only planning on pulling for units that are clear power level upgrades. So far I really want Ayaka(best healer), CG Sakura(best magic), and Basch(best tank).

I don't really know who the top damage dealer that will define a new meta will be, but I'm kinda banking on upgrading Tidus with all his enhancements to stay at the top. Maybe it's Cloud though? I'm not sure.

That said, I'll do dailies on this banner unlike our current one, but that's it for me.

Personally I am over the min/max stuff which I have said before the only exception to that is Prishe, I need dat hat. I want the Veritas because I think they are badass characters, the fact they are good units with good TM's is just helpful. Nier on the other hand I really don't care about. I will pull because they are limited units, and 9S has a TM that is literally SSSSSSS tier.

Edit: His TM is only 10% higher? Does his TM not stack with GS Mastery? Because if it does you would be replacing more than likely a 30% or lower materia for his which would be a gain of 30% at minimum. GS Mastery/Sworn Six Pride - Dark/Blade or Martial Arts Mastery and then DW if you don't have GG or a killer materia if you do. Granted with all this shit you are probably close to if not hitting the cap.

Double Edit: Actually Martial Arts mastery is probably a terrible companion to his because of Yun's TM and the wanting two C. Belts. So forget I said that one.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Most people here already own at least one Top Tier 5* chainer so i can see why they are a bit down on it. For people like me its like when Orlandeu showed up for the first time for you guys...getting a 5* Chainer would be amazing.

But the fact that i dont have a Top Tier dark TM weapons makes it less interesting for me....i would feel weird pulling for a already incredible rare unit when i dont even have access to his best weapon.

4k Lapis and maybe like 20-25 tickets at my disposal right now..ill try to save them for Nier but if not ill just go 50:50 between both banners.

Edit:

...though with 9S TM i could make solid unit ala Gilgamesh on my team into Chainers ? MAybe im better of saving everything for Nier lol.

 

[PantherLotus]

I'm missing way too many 5*'s to have BiS for anyone, but my current TM slate is 4x Rasler and Lunera. Those will go on WoL (Tank) and Lunera (niche dps) herself. Next up after that is Queen 2x (for dps survivability), Rikku (utility), Dark Fina (mage dps) and 9S (more utility). You can see most of those aren't essential but instead of all-offense it's now more about defense and flexibility. Most of the units coming up offer slight-to-moderate improvements on stuff I already have (eg. Dark Veritas TM, Tim's hat, Victoria's robe, Weirei's TM). The big things, in my mind, are TMs that are completely unique, like 9S' TM.

You just named a bunch of TMs I don't have (other than Rikku), LOL. So that might explain it.

I think I somewhat raised this earlier so I'll answer in regards to what I said.

Firstly when I said I don't do half priced pulls because all I need is BiS what I meant I have pretty much have all the units in the game outside of 5* bases that provide BiS for my main units, so dailies become more of a loss for me than a gain.

I don't however use my lapis for refreshes because I don't want to spend irl money. So all I'm doing is saving it, so when banners like this come around that provide new BiS I can daily at the very least. There's not much in the way of free lapis for me now so if I don't want to spend money I don't spend lapis where I don't need to.

And because I don't refresh, yeah my backlog really is that big sadly

That actually makes a lot of sense, and is in fact exactly where I'm at. Decent team with best available stuff, waiting on 5* chainers to roll in. And then I'll have to worry about their BIS.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

Personally I am over the min/max stuff which I have said before the only exception to that is Prishe, I need dat hat. I want the Veritas because I think they are badass characters, the fact they are good units with good TM's is just helpful. Nier on the other hand I really don't care about. I will pull because they are limited units, and 9S has a TM that is literally SSSSSSS tier.

Lol DAT hat is fine indeed. Yeah the Veritas are badass, that's for sure(i feel like they're what the ff12 judges should've been). For Nier, not only are the TMs great and limited, but I also just love the characters, so that's a double whammy for me to pull for em.

I'm actually a bit surprised there aren't more limited units more often in Exvius. They totally get more people to pull in fear of missing out. Can you imagine when kingdom hearts 3 come out and we get our limited kh banner units?? SQEEEEEE!!!!!!

 

[Doctor_No]

The thing is, Orlandu and Dark Veritas with Deathbringer + Excalibur each as chainers + DKC with Excalibur as finisher will have no set backs due to dual elements.

You click on DKC first and the -100% Dark imperil will be already in play, then you start the chain with Orlandu and the -50% light imperil will be in play, then you finish the chain with Dark Veritas.

DKC will benefit from both imperils on his second hit, Orlandu would benefit from both imperils on his second string (would benefit from the dark one on both strings), Dark Veritas would benefit from both from the get to go because you clicked on Orlandu before him.

There is no need to have two Dark Veritas as you will be missing the light imperil from Orlandu, you would deal much less damage.

Theoretically though, with that DKC -100% Imperil on first hit, having an all-dark element chain with -100% Dark Imperil will be stronger than dual element -100%/-50% Light/Dark Imperil chain and finish.

Also, perhaps, one point I'm not entirely clear on, does the finisher need to be dual-element as well, or can he just be only one those elements? For instance, in this case, can a DKC with Deathbringer cap off a Light/Dark D. Veritas chain, or does he need both Excaliber or other Light weapon elements?

 

[Muku]

Lol DAT hat is fine indeed. Yeah the Veritas are badass, that's for sure(i feel like they're what the ff12 judges should've been). For Nier, not only are the TMs great and limited, but I also just love the characters, so that's a double whammy for me to pull for em.

I'm actually a bit surprised there aren't more limited units more often in Exvius. They totally get more people to pull in fear of missing out. Can you imagine when kingdom hearts 3 come out and we get our limited kh banner units?? SQEEEEEE!!!!!!

If we ended up getting TWEWY and it was limited, I would spend everything I had if I had to to go for Neku and all. Even if they weren't the best in BE, I'd still want them. I love that game to death.

Spoiler

No pun intended.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

If we ended up getting TWEWY and it was limited, I would spend everything I had if I had to to go for Neku and all. Even if they weren't the best in BE, I'd still want them. I love that game to death.

Spoiler

No pun intended.

Best DS game ever. I would too.

 

[cw_sasuke]

So i just looked up 9S TM.... LOL

for some reason i thought it would only offer the Chain AoE move but his TM is incredible.
Yeah im saving everything for Nier...that TM is just ridiculous.

For people who play the JPN version...are there even more OP TMs in Japan ? Because thats pretty nuts.

But seeing this TM i wonder if we really will get Nier so soon...this would introduce quite the powercreep.

 

[Pejo]

You know, after re-acquainting myself with Dark Veritas, I think I'm going to go for it. Probably slim chances, but I really like his kit and the TM is godly. I've always been a huge fan of high tier damage characters with a lot of utility.

He's got a 45% AoE full break and 20% on demand damage reduction, on top of being same exact frames as Orlandu/enhanced Agrias, can imperil his element, and can add his element to his attacks. I have a fair amount of dark equipment to build around as well.

I'm in for at least 3 10+1s, here's hoping I get a little luck.

 

[Syntsui]

Theoretically though, with that DKC -100% Imperil on first hit, having an all-dark element chain with -100% Dark Imperil will be stronger than dual element -100%/-50% Light/Dark Imperil chain and finish.

Also, perhaps, one point I'm not entirely clear on, does the finisher need to be dual-element as well, or can he just be only one those elements? For instance, in this case, can a DKC with Deathbringer cap off a Light/Dark D. Veritas chain, or does he need both Excaliber or other Light weapon elements?

Unless I'm missing something, how would an all dark chain be more powerful? The weapons used already take full use of both elements, there is no damage loss here with the dual element set up. The light imperil on top of that should increase the damage severely.

DKC Soul Eater is a Dark attack, so he must have one Excalibur + whatever to take full advantage of an enemy with light and dark imperil.

Don't you have 2 Deathbringers and 3 Excaliburs available? You could test this theory against the dummy right now with two Orlandus with Excalibur and Deathbringer + DKC with Excalibur. You don't even need Dark Veritas lol.

 

[Rixa]

So i just looked up 9S TM.... LOL

for some reason i thought it would only offer the Chain AoE move but his TM is incredible.
Yeah im saving everything for Nier...that TM is just ridiculous.

For people who play the JPN version...are there even more OP TMs in Japan ? Because thats pretty nuts.

But seeing this TM i wonder if we really will get Nier so soon...this would introduce quite the powercreep.

Your Greg, my 2 Nocs will get new life with that TM. That's why we are now speculating there will be more than one 4* in Nier banner. Just to dilute and trash everyones hopes for easy 9S TM .

Trust Reward = ポッド153 [Accessory] +8 DEF/SPR Grants:
A120：リペア AoE HoT 3000 Base + 9x Mod over three turns [26MP]
A170：スキャナー 100% Treasure Hunter
A060：Pシールド AoE 2 Turns 40% Phys Mitigation [45MP]
R020：ミラージュ AoE 8 Hits 300% Phys [30MP]
(Frames: 42-52-62-72-82-92-102-112)

That TM is just nuts.

And as unit 9S is great too.

 

[robotuw]

Unless I'm missing something, how would an all dark chain be more powerful? The weapons used already take full use of both elements, there is no damage loss here with the dual element set up. The light imperil on top of that should increase the damage severely.

DKC Soul Eater is a Dark attack, so he must have one Excalibur + whatever to take full advantage of an enemy with light and dark imperil.

Don't you have 2 Deathbringers and 3 Excaliburs available? You could test this theory against the dummy right now with two Orlandus with Excalibur and Deathbringer + DKC with Excalibur. You don't even need Dark Veritas lol.

Dual-element attacks average the resistances of the two elements, so assuming the target naturally has 0% resistance to everything, a dark element chain would have -100% resist but a light-and-dark element chain would have -75% resist (and only after the second attack from Orlandu). The tradeoff is dual-element chains build to the max chain damage modifier faster. So the unanswered question for me is if the faster chain makes up for the 25% resistance lost. My guess is yes but it'd be nice if someone went to the trouble of doing the actual math for it. Guess I'll wait for Reddit to hit on the idea. It shouldn't take too much longer.

 

[Doctor_No]

Don't you have 2 Deathbringers and 3 Excaliburs available? You could test this theory against the dummy right now with two Orlandus with Excalibur and Deathbringer + DKC with Excalibur. You don't even need Dark Veritas lol.

I still need that dark Imperil to do proper damage, but in reality, you are right, I really don't need D Veritas outside of his TM, and I won't be hard pulling for him. I think I'll do maybe 100 pulls and stop. Probability-wise I won't get him with those numbers of pulls.

If this wasn't a dual 5* I would have defiantly hard pulled for him, now I'm just waiting for Onion Knight and Nier; which should be very soon. If multiple 5* banners become a standard thing I'm going to be pulling less and wait till the 3% rate boost whenever it comes.

I suppose I could time the first hit of DKC right, and chain it with another character like multiple Tidus or more ideally dual Onion Knights with dark weapons, and finish it off with the second hit (or with another DKC as well). I have a bunch of Orlandeaus and Death Bringers, Moonblades as well for all of them. But eventually I would want my DKC to be DH build once its buffed in GL.

Dual-element attacks average the resistances of the two elements, so assuming the target naturally has 0% resistance to everything, a dark element chain would have -100% resist but a light-and-dark element chain would have -75% resist (and only after the second attack from Orlandu). The tradeoff is dual-element chains build to the max chain damage modifier faster. So the unanswered question for me is if the faster chain makes up for the 25% resistance lost. My guess is yes but it'd be nice if someone went to the trouble of doing the actual math for it. Guess I'll wait for Reddit to hit on the idea. It shouldn't take too much longer.

My understanding is that if you equip the same element weapon on both hands you can build chains just as fast as dual-element, but without the draw back of managing dual-elements.

 

[Alkez]

Just wondering but who are the best debuffers on the Japan side of things?

If you're just talking full break level debuffs and not including LBs then I believe DV and Summer Dark Fina hold that title with 45%. In terms of single debuffs I'm unsure.

Can you imagine when kingdom hearts 3 come out and we get our limited kh banner units?? SQEEEEEE!!!!!!

O man, don't. I've said it so many times but if Aqua comes to this came I'm done. Everything will be spent.

 

[jnWake]

Let the urge to pull consume you. Veritas is love. Veritas is life. Don't let reason fool you.

 

[robotuw]

My understanding is that if you equip the same element weapon on both hands you can build chains just as fast as dual-element, but without the draw back of managing dual-elements.

Oh interesting. I haven't heard of that before. I'm not sure I believe that, but it would create some very strange BiS equipment requirements (you'd need to find a light or dark katana, or use a sword and swap blade mastery with DKS).

 

[Hippopuncher12]

So between yesterday and today I have failed 7 straight expeditions that were 70% or higher......lol. I usually don't use the items to boost the percent unless it's for something like Giancrysts but that is by far the worst luck I have had on these things since the first week when it was buggy for some people.

 

[Xion86]

Only just saw the new banner near the end of the day as I've been so busy with work....what the hell :| that came out of nowhere. Hmm will probably try stick to Daily pulls and hope I end up getting the units in a future 11 pull.

Everyone's hyped about the Nier units so will try an 11 pull there instead, but mainly waiting for the big one...Cloud .

Oh, and never seen so many of the same unit being shared

 

[Broseybrose]

I still think FF11 is coming before Nier anyway. I can't see them not giving us Balthier because of his power but giving us Nier units right after. Who knows though. I was going to hard pull this banner regardless of Nier so I'm still doing that. The Veritas are the most interesting characters in the Brave Exvius part of the game to me so I want them all.

This is how Im thinking too. Ive basically been saving forever (30k Lapis / ~70 tix), for a banner that really appealed to me. I didnt even try and pull for Tidus. But as soon as I saw it was the Veritas Banner I thought "This is what Ive been waiting for!"

I'm probably gonna go hard (dolphin hard, not whale hard) and try and save something for Nier, since those are limited units...

Maybe I'll buy the 24.99 bundle or one of the bundles they are bringing back. Guess Ill have to see how it goes!

 

[EDarkness]

I still think FF11 is coming before Nier anyway. I can't see them not giving us Balthier because of his power but giving us Nier units right after. Who knows though. I was going to hard pull this banner regardless of Nier so I'm still doing that. The Veritas are the most interesting characters in the Brave Exvius part of the game to me so I want them all.

Good luck, man. I refuse to let Gumi get me, so I'll be hoarding resources until Nier hits. I have no interest in any of the Veritas guys, so that makes it easier to do. Another week without pulling anything. Pretty awesome.

 

[greyshark]

My understanding is that if you equip the same element weapon on both hands you can build chains just as fast as dual-element, but without the draw back of managing dual-elements.

This is not true - the chain multiplier is higher the more elements you have added to the chain.

 

[Broseybrose]

Good luck, man. I refuse to let Gumi get me, so I'll be hoarding resources until Nier hits. I have no interest in any of the Veritas guys, so that makes it easier to do. Another week without pulling anything. Pretty awesome.

How can you play this game and have no interest in the Veritas? I just dont understand that. DV is still top tier in JP (right?). They are the villians we've been fighting against for the entire game and youre just gonna shrug them off?

This Nier banner must really be something special!

This is not true - the chain multiplier is higher the more elements you have added to the chain.

Correct

You can build an elemental chain twice as fast by equipping your chainers with 2 matching elements instead of one.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

You know what occurred to me today, since I've been(we've been) playing Exvius for over a year now, the amount of time spent in the app is probably insane. 100s of hours perhaps?

I'm willing to bet Exvius will be the videogame I've put the most amount of hours into (and money for that matter).

My highest amount of time in a single game was Dungeon Fighter Online (r.i.p original servers) at 800 hours.

Destiny and Phantasy Star Online were tied for second at 500 hours a piece.


But when it's all said and done Exvius might take the cake. Especially because I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. That's CRAZY to me. I with there were a way to actually see the hours the apps been open for.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

I would not mind me some Dark Veritas. Wonder if I should use my moogles for Deathbringer...

You know what occurred to me today, since I've been(we've been) playing Exvius for over a year now, the amount of time spent in the app is probably insane. 100s of hours perhaps?

I'm willing to bet Exvius will be the videogame I've put the most amount of hours into (and money for that matter).

My highest amount of time in a single game was Dungeon Fighter Online (r.i.p original servers) at 800 hours.

Destiny and Phantasy Star Online were tied for second at 500 hours a piece.


But when it's all said and done Exvius might take the cake. Especially because I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. That's CRAZY to me. I with there were a way to actually see the hours the apps been open for.

I know I'm at 1000 hours plus with the Amazon version alone. Which I didn't start using until December maybe?

The Amazon game circle does have the ability to track this...

 

[Hippopuncher12]

You know what occurred to me today, since I've been(we've been) playing Exvius for over a year now, the amount of time spent in the app is probably insane. 100s of hours perhaps?

I'm willing to bet Exvius will be the videogame I've put the most amount of hours into (and money for that matter).

My highest amount of time in a single game was Dungeon Fighter Online (r.i.p original servers) at 800 hours.

Destiny and Phantasy Star Online were tied for second at 500 hours a piece.


But when it's all said and done Exvius might take the cake. Especially because I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. That's CRAZY to me. I with there were a way to actually see the hours the apps been open for.

It may end up being the highest for me, but it still has a long way to go to match my WoW playtime, and I'm still playing that albeit not anywhere near as much as I used to. As long as they keep releasing content I will probably play this game, unless I have a truly terrible string of unlucky pulls like Yoshi has a few times, then I may move on.

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

I would not mind me some Dark Veritas. Wonder if I should use my moogles for Deathbringer...


I know I'm at 1000 hours plus with the Amazon version alone. Which I didn't start using until December maybe?

The Amazon game circle does have the ability to track this...

Oh shit it does? I used to play strictly on Google play but I think around December I switched to Amazon. For teh coins

 

[Broseybrose]

You know what occurred to me today, since I've been(we've been) playing Exvius for over a year now, the amount of time spent in the app is probably insane. 100s of hours perhaps?

I'm willing to bet Exvius will be the videogame I've put the most amount of hours into (and money for that matter).

My highest amount of time in a single game was Dungeon Fighter Online (r.i.p original servers) at 800 hours.

Destiny and Phantasy Star Online were tied for second at 500 hours a piece.


But when it's all said and done Exvius might take the cake. Especially because I don't see it slowing down anytime soon. That's CRAZY to me. I with there were a way to actually see the hours the apps been open for.

Definitely the most hours in a game for me, ever. Id be afraid to know the actual number of hours the app has been open on my account lol.

I think my previous records were Morrowind and The World Ends with You, both in the ~300 hour range. FFBE is probably close to the 3000 hour range!

I would not mind me some Dark Veritas. Wonder if I should use my moogles for Deathbringer...


I know I'm at 1000 hours plus with the Amazon version alone. Which I didn't start using until December maybe?

The Amazon game circle does have the ability to track this...

You bring up something I havent thought of... I dont have a Deathbringer to farm, and DV's big move is Dark Imperil... maybe shouldnt go to crazy on this banner since I cant even equip DV properly if i get him.

 

[Euphoria14]

Really want the Nier unit 9S since it's a 4*, meaning the more I hoard the better chance I have at getting one or two. By tomorrow morning, after buying that final 300 Lapis bundle, I will have 9,000 lapis saved and (50) tickets, which includes 2x 4*.

Considering I have 2x Landu, WoL, Rikku and Tilith/Rem/Olive as my team I'm assuming I can pass this banner without future consequence.

Going to be tough ignoring it though and I fully expect Nier to still be a month away at the current rate things are going.


Nier or Ramza Enhancements, which comes first?

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Oh shit it does? I used to play strictly on Google play but I think around December I switched to Amazon. For teh coins

Yes I'm not quite sure how to access it. Maybe in the menu settings? Or when the welcome banner pops up when loading the app. But just yesterday I saw it. It's definitely the most time I've ever put into one game. Ever.

Definitely the most hours in a game for me, ever. Id be afraid to know the actual number of hours the app has been open on my account lol.

You bring up something I havent thought of... I dont have a Deathbringer to farm, and DV's big move is Dark Imperil... maybe shouldnt go to crazy on this banner since I cant even equip DV properly if i get him.

Yea I hate to use my stockpile but if I get DV, I may just have to
...

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

Nier or Ramza Enhancements, which comes first?

NIEEE3EEERRRR!

Yes I'm not quite sure how to access it. Maybe in the menu settings? Or when the welcome banner pops up when loading the app. But just yesterday I saw it. It's definitely the most time I've ever put into one game. Ever.

...

Gonna look for this. I'm curious as hell

 

[NomarTyme]

Agrias enhancements comes first!

 

[Alkez]

Definitely the most hours in a game for me, ever. Id be afraid to know the actual number of hours the app has been open on my account lol.

You bring up something I havent thought of... I dont have a Deathbringer to farm, and DV's big move is Dark Imperil... maybe shouldnt go to crazy on this banner since I cant even equip DV properly if i get him.

On the event notification it says there's a dark greatsword available. Average strength but still better than nothing. Later on there's a 125 dark sword on a 4* base.

 

[Lyrian]

OHHHHJ MY FUCKING GOOODDD DAILY FUCKING RYDIA ON JP YES YES YES YES YES YES.

Congrats on the on-banner rainbow!

They really shouldn't have announced Nier so far out, as people are going to horde lapis and tickets. I can't see it being good for business.

Well, then. I've been thinking about this one at work today.

Let's recap.

-- Players know from JP precognition that the Nier raid units are between great and awesome for a number of reasons. <-- Sets Global Expectations.

At this point, it is more than bluntly obvious that Gumi knows that many intently watch the JP meta to plan for upcoming events. Gumi clearly has demonstrated that it will toy with the Global playerbase in regard to these expectations. Orlandu when? 6* WoL when? Enhanced Ramza when?

-- Out of nowhere, one day at E3, the devs drop the megaton of the Nier raid coming incredibly early, without nerfs, and with Global Exclusive units. <-- Intensifying Hype

** Players begin to horde resources in preparation for the Nier event.

-- Over the last month, an incredible number of tickets have been available for purchase via lapis. <-- The Lure

This is exactly what players are looking for, in preparation for the Nier event. Players buy up tickets happily and continue stockpiling.

-- Today, Gumi announces the **early** release of a coveted banner. <-- Springing the Trap

** Players are faced with a moral dilemma. Everything on the Veritas 1 banner is solid, either as a unit or via their TM. Given the highly diluted pool of units, players are very unlikely to be able to get all of their desired units from both banners for free. Purchasing ensues.

-- Special paid bundles reset on the 18th, which magically just happens to be the 2nd week of the raid event. What better time to "grant" everyone a "second chance" at the Niet banner, than through those special paid banners. Also, 10+1 ticket on the 14th.

It's all going **EXACTLY** according to plan.

 

[Broseybrose]

On the event notification it says there's a dark greatsword available. Average strength but still better than nothing. Later on there's a 125 dark sword on a 4* base.

Right! I remember seeing that now. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Congrats on the on-banner rainbow!




-- Today, Gumi announces the **early** release of a coveted banner. <-- Springing the Trap

It isn't really early. It came out right after Tactics 3 did in JPN as well. I am surprised it came before the FF 11 raid, but if Nier comes before that also then it doesn't matter. So they are literally right on track going by JPN release schedule....

Except for Balthier.

Edit: So next week should be the raid FF XI or Nier and the next MK should be FF 3 with OK.

 

[Broseybrose]

It's all going **EXACTLY** according to plan. Global fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Played like a fiddle, indeed.

Wait wait wait. We 'fell for it'? 'Hook line and sinker'? 'Played like a fiddle'? I really hope youre being less than serious.

They are giving us what WE want. They didnt trick or fool us in any way shape or form. By announcing that a Nier banner is coming but giving us Veritas banner first? I dont see that as sinister or devious in any way.

But, yes, it is a very smart way to extract player resources... but like I said earlier, its only by making what we want available to us.

While essentially everything you said is correct, I dont see the sinister "GL got PLAYED" aspect to it.

edit - BTW, Ive pretty much always agreed with your opinions and have taken your advice many times in this thread. So I hope youre just being hyperbolic with that post.

 

[Syntsui]

I can confirm I wanted this banner more than NieR, so Gumi played themselves ¯_(&#12484_/¯

 

[Depths of Orion]

I think i'm done with the FFT banner. 4 10+1 pulls and 40+ tickets has given me almost 30 (and im not even exaggerating) Alma's, 3 Agrias, and no other banner units.

Some people might think it's a waste but I love FFT and I just really wanted the units. Even if was just Meliadoul or Orran I would be happy but no luck. Sigh this banner has sucked. Got a rainbow yesterday from pull and it was a dupe DKC. They really need to fix these garbage rates.

 

[Lyrian]

It isn't really early. It came out right after Tactics 3 did in JPN as well. I am surprised it came before the FF 11 raid, but if Nier comes before that also then it doesn't matter.

That's the literal definition of early? It's just a matter of how early. Regardless, the banner was moved up before the raid, which makes it early by definition. It is simply convenient that such a desirable banner was close to natural release, according to the JP release schedule.

Wait wait wait. We 'fell for it'? 'Hook line and sinker'? 'Played like a fiddle'? I really hope youre being less than serious.

They are giving us what WE want. They didnt trick or fool us in any way shape or form. By announcing that a Nier banner is coming but giving us Veritas banner first? I dont see that as sinister or devious in any way.

But, yes, it is a very smart way to extract player resources... but like I said earlier, its only by making what we want available to us.

While essentially everything you said is correct, I dont see the sinister "GL got PLAYED" aspect to it.

edit - BTW, Ive pretty much always agreed with your opinions and have taken your advice many times in this thread. So I hope youre just being hyperbolic with that post.

Poorly, yes. I was badly trying to insert some typical gaming-side humor into the end of the post. Which apparently falls very flat, so I removed the lines. Sadly, I somehow lack the gift of humor that most of my family can express quite easily.

Technically though, the situation is like the Futurama slo-mobile. No one has fallen into the trap yet. But, with everyone being well aware of the trap, people will still willingly fall into it. And then, they will somehow complain about falling into the obvious trap.

 

[Celegus]

I know everyone is up in arms about DV and all that, but what about the 4*s? Victoria is a magic chainer or something? Is EV worth using, or is his TM good for anyone? Victoria TM seems pretty crap and I have 2 Ashe, so I'm not gonna go hard into this one. Can at least throw dailies at it, but there's nothing I really need from it and I'd rather focus on the 4* that are actually somewhat attainable than 5*s.