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[witchedwiz]

Yolopulled 2 tix..
Double Ilias..
Oh well..
I wanted to feel like an hero, ended up with zero.. normal ffbe :x

 

[jasminlovesyoux]

I think i'm done with the FFT banner. 4 10+1 pulls and 40+ tickets has given me almost 30 (and im not even exaggerating) Alma's, 3 Agrias, and no other banner units.

Some people might think it's a waste but I love FFT and I just really wanted the units. Even if was just Meliadoul or Orran I would be happy but no luck. Sigh this banner has sucked. Got a rainbow yesterday from pull and it was a dupe DKC. They really need to fix these garbage rates.

I'm utterly sorry man

 

[Hippopuncher12]

That's the literal definition of early? It's just a matter of how early. Regardless, the banner was moved up before the raid, which makes it early by definition. It is simply convenient that such a desirable banner was close to natural release, according to the JP release schedule.

ehhhh semantics aside, FF 11 has been skipped before now so it was already out of order anyway. I am saying that this banner is literally right where it was in JPN....the banner after Tactics 3. In terms of date = banner compared to JPN you can't compare them anyway because we have had banners they haven't and they have had banners we haven't. If you want to go by date this banner came before the 1 year anniversary so it's technically late.

 

[Broseybrose]

Poorly, yes. I was badly trying to insert some typical gaming-side humor into the end of the post. Which apparently falls very flat, so I removed the lines. Sadly, I somehow lack the gift of humor that most of my family can express quite easily.

Technically though, the situation is like the Futurama slo-mobile. No one has fallen into the trap yet. But, with everyone being well aware of the trap, people will still willingly fall into it. And then, they will somehow complain about falling into the obvious trap.

Yes, I totally agree about how sour Gaming side can be. I just see your posts as always level headed so when I read those last lines I was like "What?" It sounded very accusatory.

Im glad to hear it was just an attempt at humor, because the way it was written, it could very easily be taken seriously.

Bolded is undeniable. And, of course, somewhat amusing.

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I think i'm done with the FFT banner. 4 10+1 pulls and 40+ tickets has given me almost 30 (and im not even exaggerating) Alma's, 3 Agrias, and no other banner units.

Some people might think it's a waste but I love FFT and I just really wanted the units. Even if was just Meliadoul or Orran I would be happy but no luck. Sigh this banner has sucked. Got a rainbow yesterday from pull and it was a dupe DKC. They really need to fix these garbage rates.

Wow that is a lot of resources. Im sorry, that does suck. RNG is truly cruel sometimes. We've all felt it in this thread.

 

[Doctor_No]

It may end up being the highest for me, but it still has a long way to go to match my WoW playtime, and I'm still playing that albeit not anywhere near as much as I used to. As long as they keep releasing content I will probably play this game, unless I have a truly terrible string of unlucky pulls like Yoshi has a few times, then I may move on.

Honestly, dual 5* banner hard pulling could potentially be absolutely brutal. You are literally facing a 0.25% chance for a Dark V.

It took me 704 pulls to get my first Lunera, my second came in less than 30. Its not unimaginable to require 1000 pulls to get your desired 5*.I'm already preparing myself for not getting him.

This is not true - the chain multiplier is higher the more elements you have added to the chain.

Correct

You can build an elemental chain twice as fast by equipping your chainers with 2 matching elements instead of one.

You guys are likely right, but we aren't in disagreement in the fact that different matching elements can build them faster. However, I was under the impression you could also build faster using multiple instances of the same weapon on both hands. But, again, I'm probably wrong.

Either way, as elemental chains reach cap at 10 hits, and normal on 30 hits, building chains up isn't too hard anyway given the hit count of a lot of these newer units. Proper use of finishers, imperil, and killers obviously make more of a difference, but hitting a 100 chain is sure satisfying.

 

[Visceir]

Top sekret pro tip!

Spoiler

Wait until the last day of banner before pulling. If Nier is next it'll prob get announced/overlap with Veritas banner

 

[Lyrian]

ehhhh semantics aside, FF 11 has been skipped before now so it was already out of order anyway. I am saying that this banner is literally right where it was in JPN....the banner after Tactics 3. In terms of date = banner compared to JPN you can't compare them anyway because we have had banners they haven't and they have had banners we haven't. If you want to go by date this banner came before the 1 year anniversary so it's technically late.

Now, who is aruging about semantics?

 

[Lyrian]

Top sekret pro tip!

Spoiler

Wait until the last day of banner before pulling. If Nier is next it'll prob get announced/overlap with Veritas banner

You're giving away Gumi's secret master plan for next week! Where's my Dr. Evil big red eject button when I need it?

Spoiler

That banner's announcement be delayed as long as possible for this exact reason.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Top sekret pro tip!

Spoiler

Wait until the last day of banner before pulling. If Nier is next it'll prob get announced/overlap with Veritas banner

I am probably going to do this only because I could pull the 2 9S I want while chasing my Veritas without ever having to touch the actual Nier banner if they end up overlapping.

Now, who is aruging about semantics?

;p

 

[EDarkness]

How can you play this game and have no interest in the Veritas? I just dont understand that. DV is still top tier in JP (right?). They are the villians we've been fighting against for the entire game and youre just gonna shrug them off?

This Nier banner must really be something special!

I loathe the story in this game and skip over it most of the time. Hate the Veritas with a passion and have no interest in wasting my tickets on FFBE characters like this. I'm more likely to pull for interesting looking characters like Amelia, than these Veritas guys who are silly villains. If people like them, that's great. I have no interest in them at all. It wouldn't have even mattered if the Nier banner was coming or not. I honestly don't get what people like about them at all. Same with the overall story.

Still, I hope those who want them get them when the banner hits. It's stuff like this that keeps the game interesting for people. I realized the other day that after 2B is put into the game, there's no character I'll be putting effort in getting for a long time. I would love to have the Bravely Default characters, but that's about it. We're not getting that banner for a LONG time...if ever.

 

[Alkez]

Top sekret pro tip!

Spoiler

Wait until the last day of banner before pulling. If Nier is next it'll prob get announced/overlap with Veritas banner

We all know that while this makes complete sense in theory, everyone here is completely incapable of doing this lol.

 

[robotuw]

Top sekret pro tip!

Spoiler

Wait until the last day of banner before pulling. If Nier is next it'll prob get announced/overlap with Veritas banner

Good point. It's not a mog king so maybe I'll actually try doing this this time.

We all know that while this makes complete sense in theory, everyone here is completely incapable of doing this lol.

But I'll probably fail.

 

[RedZaraki]

As soon as you see the first 1000+ ATK DV in your friends list you will buckle.

EVERY ONE OF YOU!

 

[Broseybrose]

I loathe the story in this game and skip over it most of the time. Hate the Veritas with a passion and have no interest in wasting my tickets on FFBE characters like this. I'm more likely to pull for interesting looking characters like Amelia, than these Veritas guys who are silly villains. If people like them, that's great. I have no interest in them at all. It wouldn't have even mattered if the Nier banner was coming or not. I honestly don't get what people like about them at all. Same with the overall story.

Still, I hope those who want them get them when the banner hits. It's stuff like this that keeps the game interesting for people. I realized the other day that after 2B is put into the game, there's no character I'll be putting effort in getting for a long time. I would love to have the Bravely Default characters, but that's about it. We're not getting that banner for a LONG time...if ever.

Strange how differntly these gatcha games can be played. This is my first gatcha, so to me the story is everything. I have all the story units maxed out and I would love to have the Veritas. I see them as story units, but you must pull in order to get them.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

As soon as you see the first 1000+ ATK DV in your friends list you will buckle.

EVERY ONE OF YOU!

You're right because that friend is......me.

https://i.imgur.com/XXSr3RY.gifv

I really want to wait for the overlap but I already know I'm gonna wake up turn on the game, and go nuts on the pulls.

 

[Lyrian]

As soon as you see the first 1000+ ATK DV in your friends list you will buckle.

EVERY ONE OF YOU!

No lies detected.

 

[EDarkness]

Strange how differntly these gatcha games can be played. This is my first gatcha, so to me the story is everything. I have all the story units maxed out and I would love to have the Veritas. I see them as story units, but you must pull in order to get them.

You know, the funny thing is I was like that at one point, but once I realized that the story characters were terrible, I gave up on collecting them at all. I mean, Lid STILL doesn't have a 6* version on Global. She's destined to be the bottom of the heap. I don't feel like they're even compelling in the story, so I gave up after the first fight with Dark Veritas and haven't cared for it at all. I have no interest in owning any of those characters. At this point, I consider this game as a way of collecting interesting Square Enix characters and equipping them with cool gear. The main characters I wanted to get from the game, I got (Tidus, Terra, Agrias, and CoD). Everything else is just gravy. After 2B, I have no idea what I'll want to do next and if I don't get her, then I'm not sure how I'll feel about that, either.

Glad you're enjoying the story, man. If it keeps you entertained and part of the community, that's all the better. I think that's what's great about games like this as we can play them many different ways and get different things out of it.

As soon as you see the first 1000+ ATK DV in your friends list you will buckle.

EVERY ONE OF YOU!

Just curious, what's so different compared to 1000+ ATK Orlandu, Olive, etc.?

 

[LucaMac]

I can put it up now. Just let me know when you get it done so I can switch back to Yang for the event.

10 tickets and a daily got me no Kain or Rydia. I used up my luck on Elfried.

At least my Yang has almost 1000 attack.

Thanks shouta. 3/4 of the way there. Had to pause a few times and resume. Shouldn't be much longer.

Edit: Done. You're a gentleman and a scholar Shouta. Was slow and steady but I was only close to losing one time...luckily my unit I decided to pack full of fire resist was Rikku, so even when Basch wen down he was back up taking it like a champ from the firebeast fairly swiftly after...

 

[Visceir]

People so fixated on DV when FV is the actual MVP of the banner

 

[Alkez]

People so fixated on DV when FV is the actual MVP of the banner

Meanwhile I just want Victoria lol.

 

[Euphoria14]

Thanks everyone for lending Garbararbarrth. Unfortunately I gave up on the fight halfway through the right after having defeated the left arm.



A: Forgot to give WoL that materia that casts dispel while attacking.

B: Forgot to equip Ramuh, thus defeating the entire purpose of the fight.

C: 2x Orlandu chaining hits like trash even with no Holy weapons and 800+ ATK.


I hate this trial. Take too damn long. I don't have hours to devote to this shit. Wasted well over an hour for nothing, he was barely even taking any damage on the right hand and I was out of mana potions.

Basically I was screwed.

I need enhanced Ramza.

 

[Lyrian]

Meanwhile I just want Victoria lol.

Ditto. Totally not expecting to pull a Veritas, but definitely want the dark-focused black mage.

 

[Euphoria14]

Someone please tell me this isn't going to become the norm for trials? By that I mean taking 2-4 hours to complete.

Who has time for that? That's a huge amount of time to require in order to complete a boss.


I'll probably do it a year from now when Ramza gets his Enhancements.

 

[LucaMac]

I hate this trial. Take too damn long. I don't have hours to devote to this shit. Wasted well over an hour for nothing, he was barely even taking any damage on the right hand and I was out of mana potions.

I agree. I failed two attempts today. Wen the fast way first but after taking out the body I thought you'd to kill off the left arm first...it revived, and the the right arm started being an asshole and healing and buffing every turn.

Tried it the slow way then and got burnt out on my fifth left arm...that's just not enjoyable.

 

[Syntsui]

People so fixated on DV when FV is the actual MVP of the banner

Fire Veritas is trash though.

https://streamable.com/igzek

Spoiler

LOL

 

[Celegus]

Someone please tell me this isn't going to become the norm for trials? By that I mean taking 2-4 hours to complete.

Who has time for that? That's a huge amount of time to require in order to complete a boss.


I'll probably do it a year from now when Ramza gets his Enhancements.

Took me half an hour, no Fryevias. But if I had to go the slow route, I'd definitely hold off.

People so fixated on DV when FV is the actual MVP of the banner

I'd rather have FV personally, but not chasing either one.

As soon as you see the first 1000+ ATK DV in your friends list you will buckle.

EVERY ONE OF YOU!

Not a dang chance.

 

[Euphoria14]

I agree. I failed two attempts today. Wen the fast way first but after taking out the body I thought you'd to kill off the left arm first...it revived, and the the right arm started being an asshole and healing and buffing every turn.

Tried it the slow way then and got burnt out on my fifth left arm...that's just not enjoyable.

That's how I was feeling too. It's just not fun or enjoyable at all.

 

[Euphoria14]

Took me half an hour, no Fryevias. But if I had to go the slow route, I'd definitely hold off.

I'd rather have FV personally, but not chasing either one.


Not a dang chance.

What route did you take that required no Freyvias and only took 30 minutes?

 

[Kouriozan]

With Fire Veritas coming, Balthier isn't "too strong" for Global anymore right.

 

[udca]

Fire Veritas is trash though.

https://streamable.com/igzek

Spoiler

LOL

What happens there?

 

[indigo-cyclops]

NIEEE3EEERRRR!





Gonna look for this. I'm curious as hell

So for some reason it is all screwy on my phone but I managed to get the accurate time using Memu tonight - just go to Menu, Options, then Game Circle > Achievements > VIEW. It should look like this:

 

[Syntsui]

What happens there?

The stars aligned and he was able to finish with the highest multiplier of the fixed dice.

 

[shintoki]

-- returning to an earlier conversation about the value of NRG in refreshes for TMs vs. half-price pulls, because i'm a masochist. those of you avoiding half-price pulls in the name of BIS equip .. which exact BIS do you not already have but you have the unit(s) for? what exactly is this lapis savings going into that players of your stature don't already have?

-- i ask because i basically have all the BIS I can actually grab with the units I already have, outside of the very-nice-to-have stuff like ribbons and whatnot. am i totally overlooking some set of BIS equip or do y'all just have that many backlogged TMs? And what are they?

I'll purpose a different question.

What is the purpose in pulling, when you own every 3 and 4 star unit? Even ignoring the one time I dropped quite a bit into this game. Mostly with freebies and the cheap bundles, I've got the majority of the units. Them adding another 4 or 5 units, isn't going to change that all of sudden.

It's not even backlog, it's just on this banner, I have something like maybe 6% chance to score something new, minus the 3* unit. I basically need an on banner Yellow or Rainbow for something new.

Could be better to save for a bit, then pull.

Also, looking up what the Gold Chest was again.
"Gold Chest of Abundance"
$11.99 for 2500 Lapis, 5% Moogle and a 4 Star guaranteed ticket

Looks like Gumi is getting another 12 from me.

 

[bonkeng]

Maybe I'm not understanding it completely, but my understanding is D. Veritas + Orlandeau chain is going to be a holy+dark chain with -50% Imperil each. DKC has a -100% Imperil, meaning that if its hybrid Light /Dark element you're you're doing less damage as dark will be 100% and Light only 50%.

But you seem to be suggesting that whomever starts the chain will make it that element. So Orlandeau starting the chain would make it light chain, and D. Veritas will be dark, rather than both Holy + Dark dual element?

What about units like Lunera and Bran that have dual-elemental moves Wind+ Light and Thunder+Light respectively?

Regarding elemental chaining with Orlandu and DV, the element depends on what weapon are equipped on both. If Orlandu and DV has Deathbringer equipped, both will have dark element chaining regardless of who attacks first. But for optimal results, DV should attack first since he inflicts Dark Imperil, thus giving the chain a bit more damage. If both are equipped with Excalibur, it will be a Light element chain. If both are equipped with Dandelgas, then it's Fire element. This is because Light Ruination and Dark Ruination are neutral elements but inflicts Imperil.

Tidus' Quick Hit and Aileen's Piledriver have the same flexibility as Orlandu and DV since both are also neutral element.

Lunera, Bran and Fryevia are different because their skills already have element attached to them. So Fryevia's Blitz will always be Ice no matter what weapon she has. Same goes for Lunera and Bran's double element skills.

Having 1 DV and 4 Orlandu is exactly the same as having 4 DV and 1 Orlandu, as long as you have enough weapons for all of them. DV is an exact dark copy of Orlandu that he even have a Dark Durandal made for him lol.

 

[Shouta]

I know everyone is up in arms about DV and all that, but what about the 4*s? Victoria is a magic chainer or something? Is EV worth using, or is his TM good for anyone? Victoria TM seems pretty crap and I have 2 Ashe, so I'm not gonna go hard into this one. Can at least throw dailies at it, but there's nothing I really need from it and I'd rather focus on the 4* that are actually somewhat attainable than 5*s.

Victoria is an excellent dark element, magic chainer with Overflow. She's very useful and good to have. Earth Veritas is great as a provoke tank and does damage while doing it. EV has a few different damage cuts making the unit useful for situations where you need that. TM for EV is good for EV or for your tanks that you want to raise DEF and ATK on.

Just curious, what's so different compared to 1000+ ATK Orlandu, Olive, etc.?

Dark Veritas is far more versatile than any other DPS up until his banner.

- Chains with Orlandu very easily
- Has super handy -45% Full Break
- 100% Dark Imperil though on Counter
- Can raise party's Dark resistance by 70%
- In arena, can get 4 full damage attacks when dual-wielding and using his Double Slash
- 20% Damage cut

You get a top-class DPS and one that can help open up your team to more potential.

 

[Hippopuncher12]

Checked the Amazon thing, says I've only played 154 hours on there. Well that can't be right because that's where I TM farm. Granted that's all I use it for and use my iPhone to actually play but it still has to be a lot higher than that.

 

[c-murph]

The monthly rewards are great.

Going to keep saving those 10+1 tickets for the Rainbow change.

Oh shit. Did not think of that.........

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Checked the Amazon thing, says I've only played 154 hours on there. Well that can't be right because that's where I TM farm. Granted that's all I use it for and use my iPhone to actually play but it still has to be a lot higher than that.

It's wonky, for sure. On my phone it was saying 26minutes only...not sure what has to happen for it to give the REAL info. It should sync with all activity on both devices. I've just started using my emulator with Amazon this week to TM farm, so almost all of that time is from using my phone.

I make sure to have WhisperSync on and Show (public profile) on in the Settings. Not sure if those matter.

 

[Kouriozan]

Almost done with the Mog King event, still 2 t4 power cryst and I guess those 5 1% moogle left, I got everything else I wanted already.

 

[The Silver]

With Fire Veritas coming, Balthier isn't "too strong" for Global anymore right.

boy the game sure underwent some drastic increases in power and difficulity between FF12 banner and FV coming out............oh wait.....


goddamn you Gumi.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Almost done with the Mog King event, still 2 t4 power cryst and I guess those 5 1% moogle left, I got everything else I wanted already.

Almost done as well. Quick work when you can run a full team of bonus units.

I really can't wait until we get all the current JP rewards like 4* tickets and exclusive unit moogles.

Also, off topic,but because of Shouta and his DQ11 stream, I used up a BB gift card and bought DQ8 for my 3ds. It will be my first DQ game I reckon. Then 11 next year!

 

[Celegus]

What route did you take that required no Freyvias and only took 30 minutes?

Fire chain 2 Tidus with Luneth finisher. I think people did the same thing with Fire Orlandeaus too. Though I also had 4 Jack TMs for Rikku LB spam and machine killer on Luneth (he was doing 1.3m or so a turn himself). I heard how scary robot was and prepped a bunch of TMs for it. Tilith for heals and Zarga for buffs, especially hero crest to cycle through the 3 attackers. Minfillia could also possibly work. Definitely not something anyone can do, but I was happy it's possible without Fry.

 

[robotuw]

Hey gang, we're still 5 hours off but don't forget maintenance is tonight and not tomorrow.

 

[Euphoria14]

Fire chain 2 Tidus with Luneth finisher. I think people did the same thing with Fire Orlandeaus too. Though I also had 4 Jack TMs for Rikku LB spam and machine killer on Luneth (he was doing 1.3m or so a turn himself). I heard how scary robot was and prepped a bunch of TMs for it. Tilith for heals and Zarga for buffs, especially hero crest to cycle through the 3 attackers. Minfillia could also possibly work. Definitely not something anyone can do, but I was happy it's possible without Fry.

You didn't Zarg cheese with beserk huh?

My Orlandeau were set up with fire element and hit like shit.

My team was;

2x Orlandeau
Rikku
Tilith
WoL
Zarg


Maybe I should put Rem or Olive in place of WoL.

 

[Celegus]

You didn't Zarg cheese with beserk huh?

My Orlandeau were set up with fire element and hit like shit.

No I'm not sure what that is. I didn't use berserk at all. You'd need a decent finisher too, I don't think Orlandeau alone would be enough.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Hey gang, we're still 5 hours off but don't forget maintenance is tonight and not tomorrow.

Totally forgot! Going to have to interrupt my TM farming...

Oh yea, I tried Chupon trial today. I don't see myself beating that anytime soon. I can't figure out the strategy. Setzer wasn't doing any damage and I just kept getting wiped, one by one.

 

[NomarTyme]

No I'm not sure what that is. I didn't use berserk at all. You'd need a decent finisher too, I don't think Orlandeau alone would be enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKRxnwO_ePM&t=289s

 

[bonkeng]

Oh yea, I tried Chupon trial today. I don't see myself beating that anytime soon. I can't figure out the strategy. Setzer wasn't doing any damage and I just kept getting wiped, one by one.

Yeah, it's one of the harder trial we've got.

You can try following the step by step guide from the wiki or kbp. I followed the guide after losing several attempts myself.

 

[Celegus]

Totally forgot! Going to have to interrupt my TM farming...

Oh yea, I tried Chupon trial today. I don't see myself beating that anytime soon. I can't figure out the strategy. Setzer wasn't doing any damage and I just kept getting wiped, one by one.

It's tough, but if you have enough support units you're basically unkillable. If you can get someone to set up Fryevia for it (Diablos, aquan killer) she can easily solo dps it (that's what I did). Especially now that we have stuff like Tilith/WoL/Rikku/Minfillia, it's not too bad. Cleared it on my wife's account that way.

 

[PantherLotus]

-- shin I am 100% with you, makes sense.

-- i agree with the sentinment that the veritas banner is designed to empty our reserves before the nier banner. And it will work because it should! If you put two good things back to back that will be the result.

-- serious question: I will have 30 tickets or more by Friday morning. And 5000ish lapis. How many should I spend?

-- note to previous: I am looking for my first Orlandeau, Fryevia, Aileen, and DV.