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FINAL FANTASY Community Thread: XV Mainline Entries and Counting
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It's pretty hard without without Decoy/Reverse, since his laser hits for a ton, even with Bubble Belts. Otherwise, you use something like Arise over and over.
Kinda funny/odd that he got nerfed in the NTSC version, since he's only got ~1mil HP as opposed to 10 mil in the JP version.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm missing some sort of core gaming gene that prevents me from having fun with harder stuff.
I've been tempted to go easy mode quite a few times on games that allows me to. Only video game series that doesn't outright frustrate me on harder difficulties is DMC for some reason.
I wish there was an easy, less grindy mode for FFXII.
tiggerkiddo
Member
True but I love it that way. I want my level grinding to be worth something. Or if I can somehow break the game's difficulty, I will everytime.
Ugh, fighting Hell Wrym was annoying enough. Omega would be such a terror with that much life!
And watch me still hunt him down...
Also FFXII.
I just finished FFVI last night and I was surprised at how easy the final dungeon was. A few people on this other message board said Kefka's Tower is hard as fuck and you need to be like at level 60 or higher so I started doing all the bonus stuff like get Ragnarok magicite, learn Ultima, get good armor, see bonus story bits, etc. I got tired of all that shit and just wanted to end the game so I rushed in with...
Terra lv. 54
Celes lv. 53
Relm lv. 50
Locke lv. 40
Sabin lv. 38
Cyan lv. 31
Setzer lv. 29 (or 30)
Edgar lv. 37
Strago lv. 43
Gau lv. 27
Mog lv. 40
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Gogo lv. 38
Umaro lv. 30
I Smoke Bombed and Molulu's Charmed all the regular encounters to rush through and used Terra, Celes, and Relm as my anchors for each one of the three teams and spammed Quick + Ultima. I figured if I could fuck up all these bonus dragons and Gilgamesh with mah Girl Power Ultima team I could damn sure mess up some bosses in the final dungeon.
Btw, Terra is awesome, like Lightning/Yuna awesome. I just love that ending too.
tiggerkiddo
Member
FF6 was so good. So very easy but such a great game. It really seemed like the Floating Continent was the hardest area in the game. Between Atma and the enemies...ouch. Anyone else feel that way?
Honestly...nope. Then again, at that time in the game I grinded too much. Ever since I played Phantasy Star 2, 3, and 4 I find myself grinding in every older RPG ahead of time just in case because I keep feeling like all these old RPGs expect me to grind and grind. Doesn't help that all these Atlus RPGs expect me to grind and grind too.
I made sure Terra learned every magic possible at that point and I essentially solo'ed it with just her doing the damage and the others being support. Terra seems like the best character in the game. Great magic power, ok physical damage but her magic is the stuff. Can equip all sorts of armor and all that. I always used Celes as my backup Terra. She had every that Terra had equipped and taught her the same magic.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Yeah when you've been level grinding, it is simple but I know the times I didn't, it was the toughest area in the game.
I always think about fighting him fairly until I eat my first quake attack...then it's Vanish Doom time.
Hardest boss for me was Vargas. I couldn't figure out how to do Sabin's blitz so I thought I could level grind the problem away. I think I got to level 36 before I figured it out.
I always think about fighting him fairly until I eat my first quake attack...then it's Vanish Doom time.
Hardest boss for me was Vargas. I couldn't figure out how to do Sabin's blitz so I thought I could level grind the problem away. I think I got to level 36 before I figured it out.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Yea that would be my only complaint but in the long run, I guessed I love it's easiness!
But alot of these games have uneven difficulty...either too easy or stupid hard.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I thought X was easy but I love to level grind in that game so it probably isn't that easy.
The other two...I can agree with!
The other two...I can agree with!
tiggerkiddo
Member
The less said about Neochu...the better.
*kills Neochu with death, forget about his puny friends and die*
*kills Neochu with death, forget about his puny friends and die*
There's your answer. The biggest threat in Kefka's tower arent the bosses (which are surprisingly easy), its not getting randomly screwed over by the random mooks. Hell, a lot of FF6 dungeons are like that.
Haha, smoke bombs.
Even years later I find it hilarious people rage over the stupider scenes in the newer FFs (Moms are tough!) when FF6 has awful moments like Shadow, badass ninja, loudly saying he's going to escape the fire demons by...throwing a smoke bomb at them.
If that were done in full FMV, it'd be the new Laughing Scene for how it's mocked.
Even years later I find it hilarious people rage over the stupider scenes in the newer FFs (Moms are tough!) when FF6 has awful moments like Shadow, badass ninja, loudly saying he's going to escape the fire demons by...throwing a smoke bomb at them.
If that were done in full FMV, it'd be the new Laughing Scene for how it's mocked.
Canis lupus
Member
That one fight against Seymour was a pain in the ass.
I forgot about Vargas. I died quite a few times on him only because I didn't know I was supposed to input the blitz command after selecting Blitz once, then after the command enter A. That was mighty frustrating.
Another boss that was bothersome but didn't bother me too much cause he is optional was Gigantuar. Yes, keep spamming 10,000 Needles you lame ass.
Those Outsiders + Candy combination is the worse. Just walking insta death enemies right there.
Or any scene with Terra. I remember another GAF member mentioned how she says love all the time in her scenes, and he ain't joking.
"I wanna know what love is right now!"
That was probably me!
I often point out that FF6 has teenage girls moping about love and breaking into song about love.
Funny how it's Cool and Deep And Meaningful when it's voiceless sprites doing it, but when it's full voiced CGI models, it's all of a sudden girly and GAY and J-POP.
FF fans, we're so shallow and hypocritical.
I don't think all of them are like that though, just vocal ones that makes themselves seem like they are the majority.
I don't even mind Terra's plight, it was cute, but it does seem like something that would get laughed at by some fans in CG or voice acted. Or Celes "Grandad" scene which more or less solidified my opinion that she is just as crazy as Kefka, she just hides it much better. Or any scene with Ultros.
Meccanical
Member
Meccanical
Member
Ah, so it was you. I can never listen to that song in the same way ever again.
To be fair neither can I.
tiggerkiddo
Member
At least one of the enemies in Kefka's tower had a bunch of Blue Magic you could learn if need be. I never got to learn Quasar, darnit.
Hey at least they didn't stick those stupid strong Brachiosaur foes in the tower. I don't think I ever killed one legitimately. Just used Vanish Doom to get that beautiful experience. Between the Dinosaur Forest and the desert by Miranda (Right?) with the Cactaurs and the Hoovers, you were set when it came to leveling up.
Hey at least they didn't stick those stupid strong Brachiosaur foes in the tower. I don't think I ever killed one legitimately. Just used Vanish Doom to get that beautiful experience. Between the Dinosaur Forest and the desert by Miranda (Right?) with the Cactaurs and the Hoovers, you were set when it came to leveling up.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh, Esura, so you enjoyed FF6? That's great. I was LTTP with it as well, and didn't play it until my mid-to-late teens. In fact, when I was little and rented it (oh how I miss renting things), I hated it. I couldn't stand playing it. And do you know what I hated about it most of all? The soundtrack, which, in hindsight, is an incredibly weird stance to take on it.
I'm glad I ended up giving it a chance when I got older otherwise I wouldn't have found something to like about it. I don't think it's utterly outstanding and perfect, because there are some things about it that I don't like, but it's a perfectly great game.
As an aside, my bf has started to point out that FFX-2 is basically a turn-based Tales game, and he certainly does have a point.
I'm glad I ended up giving it a chance when I got older otherwise I wouldn't have found something to like about it. I don't think it's utterly outstanding and perfect, because there are some things about it that I don't like, but it's a perfectly great game.
FF was always silly and cheesy. I guess with voices people finally figure out that the dialogue wasn't always that great or philosophical. But to be fair, a lot of it has to do with odd voice direction as well.
As an aside, my bf has started to point out that FFX-2 is basically a turn-based Tales game, and he certainly does have a point.
Celcius
°Temp. member
Reading through the past few pages reminded me how long it's been since I've played through a FF and enjoyed it (tried FF13-2 this year but abandoned ship half-way through). Since I haven't heard anything about 13 Versus or "FFX HD", maybe I'll go back and play the ps1 games. I've beaten 7 and 9 once, but didn't like 8 as a kid (only played 30 minutes or so). Perhaps I'll give it another chance...
tiggerkiddo
Member
8 was a really fun game. Thought the soundtrack was superb and Selphie and Zell were a riot. I don't really care for the game when a certain sorceress with a passion for time kompression hijacked the plot. Otherwise the story was great as well.
Booo at Rinoa though!
Booo at Rinoa though!
ChiefofCitadelSecurity
Member
Yep, everything before that fight was a breeze.
Someone should try and remix that song using Terra's theme. Lets call up MegaRan for the job.
I killed those Brachiosaurs easily. That said, I stat boosted the hell out of Terra. Her Magic stat was like at 100 or so after I got her back in WoR so every -ara and -aga spell was doing 9999 damage. Hook her up with those Hermes Sandals and Force Armor/Shields and Minerva Bustier and stuff and I take them out with just Terra and Celes easily. That said, they wiped the floor with every other character that isn't Terra or Celes. I wish I didn't have to bother with many of the characters to be honest.
Oh, Esura, so you enjoyed FF6? That's great. I was LTTP with it as well, and didn't play it until my mid-to-late teens. In fact, when I was little and rented it (oh how I miss renting things), I hated it. I couldn't stand playing it. And do you know what I hated about it most of all? The soundtrack, which, in hindsight, is an incredibly weird stance to take on it.
I'm glad I ended up giving it a chance when I got older otherwise I wouldn't have found something to like about it. I don't think it's utterly outstanding and perfect, because there are some things about it that I don't like, but it's a perfectly great game.
Yeah, I enjoyed it. I can't say I enjoyed it nearly as much as the FFs after it though. I hate the sheer amount of characters there is and the fact that the game doesn't have a dedicated main protagonist that I could fall back on. I wish they just admit the fact that Terra was the main character instead of trying to focus on everyone else. She is like the reverse Vaan. Vaan is forced to be the main character of FFXII while having little to no importance to much of the game's story whereas Terra is for all intents and purpose the main character but the game pushes every character and their bullshit subplot on me but her even though she drives the story forward.
The amount of characters bother me because the cast is constantly shifting and its hard to settle on a dedicated team when plot dictates you use these characters instead of the others, which at first made the game kind of difficult as I was stuck using characters I did not like. Also bothers me because it feels like the game doesn't have much focus in it's main plot with all these characters and the game trying to focus on all of them.
I definitely don't think it is outstanding and perfect though, at least not as much as I was lead to believe but it is definitely a good game. Because of it I also got another favorite character (Terra!). You should do a LTTP thread on it though as it sounds like we might share similar views on FFVI.
I'm sure I've mentioned it before, but the main thing that soured me on FF6:
Narshe Cave
Figaro Cave
Mt. Kolts
Returner's Hideouts
Serpent Trench
Sealed Cave
Zozo Cave
Veldt Cave
Phoenix Cave
Umaro's Cave
Triangle Isle Cave
Ancient Castle
Dragon's Den (GBA)
What was with FF6 and having so many damn cave dungeons. Did the Field Graphic Designers love the cave wall layout that much?
Narshe Cave
Figaro Cave
Mt. Kolts
Returner's Hideouts
Serpent Trench
Sealed Cave
Zozo Cave
Veldt Cave
Phoenix Cave
Umaro's Cave
Triangle Isle Cave
Ancient Castle
Dragon's Den (GBA)
What was with FF6 and having so many damn cave dungeons. Did the Field Graphic Designers love the cave wall layout that much?
Gooch is 50 years old now!
http://www.facebook.com/hironobu.sakaguchi
Now on Disk 3 of FF9. My god the story is a mess and aughh I have to play the card game to get outta Treno. It's easy but I hate card subgames shoe-horned into the narrative. I don't remember there being so much revisiting of locations in this game, it already feels like the tenth time I've been to alexandria/lindblum/treno/whatever. Lot of back and forth in this game... by foot. Also, I hate the "roos".
Enjoy! (it may be hard to read but I have a very soft style)
Being one of the first people to ever have a full dalmatica set, adaman set, and crazy weapons people could only dream about like the mercurial pole meant I deserved the awful badge of "haijin".
Mind is blown, there are even more uses of the cave graphics not listed... like where the peeps are hidden in Mobliz, or when you go to find Cyan again.
http://www.facebook.com/hironobu.sakaguchi
Now on Disk 3 of FF9. My god the story is a mess and aughh I have to play the card game to get outta Treno. It's easy but I hate card subgames shoe-horned into the narrative. I don't remember there being so much revisiting of locations in this game, it already feels like the tenth time I've been to alexandria/lindblum/treno/whatever. Lot of back and forth in this game... by foot. Also, I hate the "roos".
Enjoy! (it may be hard to read but I have a very soft style)
Being one of the first people to ever have a full dalmatica set, adaman set, and crazy weapons people could only dream about like the mercurial pole meant I deserved the awful badge of "haijin".
and for a short time I liked it, but I'd rather have my time back
Mind is blown, there are even more uses of the cave graphics not listed... like where the peeps are hidden in Mobliz, or when you go to find Cyan again.
tiggerkiddo
Member
At least something interesting or funny happened in those caves.
Professor Beef
Banned
I can't recall a single thing.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Shiny Shiny Shiny!
Professor Beef
Banned
...the hell are you talking about?
tiggerkiddo
Member
Uh...Gau and his treasure?
Professor Beef
Banned
Gau had a treasure?
tiggerkiddo
Member
I think so...not sure actually.
Man, Sakaguchi turns 50 today. One of the key members behind my favorite series in any entertainment form. If only he hadn't done Spirits Within, and focused on the games instead. I wonder if the FF series would be in the situation it is in now? I enjoyed Lost Odyssey, even if it doesn't compare to my favorite FF games. FFXIII pales in comparison. (Haven't played FFXIII-2 other than the demo.) I bet if Sakaguchi had the Final Fantasy budget for LO, he could have gotten even more out of it.
Ugh, The Gauing scene. I've never seen anything so badly acted and voiced in my life. Yeah, yeah, I hear the excuse from FF6 fanboys that he's SUPPOSED to be acting stupid, but it still took me out of the game and ruined it for me. NOMURA!!
tiggerkiddo
Member
That's fine. I guess I can't expect everyone to love his antics.
ErasureAcer
Banned
Gau's treasure was the breathing mask for sepent trench I believe.
Meccanical
Member
So I was listening to the Type-0 soundtrack for the hell of it and I came across this little gem:
Standing Up
I felt compelled to mention this because despite being composed by Ishimoto, it sounds like some badass fusion of Hamauzu, Shimomura, and Sakimoto at least to my ears.
Never thought something like this was in his style range.
Standing Up
I felt compelled to mention this because despite being composed by Ishimoto, it sounds like some badass fusion of Hamauzu, Shimomura, and Sakimoto at least to my ears.
Never thought something like this was in his style range.
Meccanical
Member
Sounds great.
tiggerkiddo
Member
It's tradition. We all fell for it.
It is, be gone you puny and easy Final Fantasy games! You'd be surprised how hard some games actually are if you don't exploit the system.
It is, be gone you puny and easy Final Fantasy games! You'd be surprised how hard some games actually are if you don't exploit the system.
I think you missed the reference. Change "Gau" to "laugh" and you'll get the joke.
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
Just got this artbook for my collection (after Amazon pwned me with the "THE SKY: ART OF FF" cancelling my order for out-of-stock reasons >.<') and together with the Type-0's one I must say this is really well done and worth the money. Here hoping S-E will keep doing this for more FFs not relying only on Ultimania Omegas.
