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[Fbh]

I love 7R but fuck this is all true

Oh for the record I really liked 7R too.
It's still one of my favorite games of last year and easily my favorite Final Fantasy since like X.
The visuals were (Mostly) really nice, the music was great and combat was amazing, easily some of the best combt in the entire FF franchise and some of the best real time combat in any JRPG.

I'm also not in the camp that wanted this to be a 1:1 remake (I usually find those boring). I think it's fine if they want to add stuff, I just think the stuff they add should be good and IMO most of the added story elements in 7R weren't.

 

[Lethal01]

Same TBH, I like Nomura but he's the one that made them stick as close as they did to the OG for part 1.
I can't wait for things to go CRAZY now that he's not as prominient...

Although I did hear that this project was really just using his name for hype and his role is pretty much the same, so don't be too excited.

 

[Furball]

The Nomura hate is overblow here .I am not sure why . Are people only want a scapegoat to hate or something .

Remind you that , it potential that Toriyama and Kitase will has their way more and gone wild like all those FF13 . In coming Hallway Fantasy 7 R HD town still Hard Part 2

 

[kiphalfton]

“Nomura confirmed he would be stepping away from his role for the next FF7 Remake instalment.”

Great news. Give the game to a director who can release a game in less than 10 years.

I like nomura, but ffs he never sees anything to completion.

 

[Neff]

I suspect Nomura have dirt on SE board of directors at this point. I mean how is it possible for him to have more control?

The guy simply delivers. The projects he's overseen have, for the most part, been hugely successful. His character designs are iconic. He's practically royalty within the company.

 

[futurama78]

The guy simply delivers. The projects he's overseen have, for the most part, been hugely successful. His character designs are iconic. He's practically royalty within the company.

If he’s royalty why didn’t he have to hand over Final Fantasy Verses XIII? Them sick of waiting?

 

[Entroyp]

This is exactly how I felt when I read the article

 

[Kumomeme]

I like nomura, but ffs he never sees anything to completion.

he delivered his game. even VII Remake smoothly in development for 4 years. except versus which is actually never been in full production for years. the real reason unknown. square that time in bad state. the xiii and xiv 1.0 trouble really affect whole company.

 

[Kumomeme]

If he’s royalty why didn’t he have to hand over Final Fantasy Verses XIII? Them sick of waiting?

we dont know what exactly happened back then. rumors said due to crystal tools engine fiasco that affected xiii and xiv 1.0 lot of staff being pulled from various team to fix those mess. versus 13 team that time just left to skeleton crew. the project doesnt really kick off until E3's 2013 reveal. all those years update just merely concept. never been in full production.

 

[Neff]

If he’s royalty why didn’t he have to hand over Final Fantasy Verses XIII? Them sick of waiting?

Versus was more or less a complementary promotional campaign for XIII which they tried to brute force into a game. Half 'let's tell people how serious we are about this story and this world to drive sales of XIII', and half 'well we've made this really fucking expensive engine so we'd better do something else with it quick'. It was obvious that there was no spark of inspiration driving the project forward, no burning reason to tell a story. It was a game which was cynically being encouraged to exist, without the passion or drive to help it get made.

Nomura's by no means infallible, he's had his share of career lows (and Versus probably ranks as the lowest), but when he's on form, his work is very well received both commercially and artistically.

 

[Lethal01]

we dont know what exactly happened back then. rumors said due to crystal tools engine fiasco that affected xiii and xiv 1.0 lot of staff being pulled from various team to fix those mess. versus 13 team that time just left to skeleton crew. the project doesnt really kick off until E3's 2013 reveal. all those years update just merely concept. never been in full production.

Oh so you what you are saying is that it's all Nomura's fault just like ffXIV , the lack of new tactics games and everything else that square does which I don't like?

 

[MeteorVII]

A 95% "recommend" rating, not a 95% review score rating which is actually at 88% on opencritic. It sits at 87 on Metacritic with "generally favourable" reviews, falling short of universal acclaim. There are 3 scores of 60% and 7 scores of 70% including a 60% from EGM and a 70% from Edge. That's not universal acclaim. Best director awards were not even a thing during the old FF games so that's an irrelevant point. Nice try though.

You actually can’t be this braindead.

Movies on RT are scaled on recommendation and the ones above 90% are always considered universally acclaimed anyway, so you‘re either trolling or just really dumb.

(Also love how they brought up old FF games as if anyone ever solely praised Guchi for those back in the day either. Not to mention Guchi is still making games to this day and has, deservedly, received no recognition cause he’s just that mediocre of a director...)

 

[DragoonKain]

I don't give a shit who directs as long as they don't change the majority of the story and have a world map. Can't continue to do screen to screen and zones/hubs once you leave Midgar. It would suck the soul out of it. Part of what made the original great was that feeling of openness when you finally get to explore the world and all the secrets you can find and use of the Highwind.

Not holding my breath though. I expect if it is "open" it won't be a world map, but rather a large open area that connects to other areas like the massive region in Pulse from FFXIII.

 

[Kumomeme]

Oh so you what you are saying is that it's all Nomura's fault just like ffXIV , the lack of new tactics games and everything else that square does which I don't like?

its all Nomurraaaa fault

 

[TheAssist]

Its funny how Nomura for some people is just this lightning rod for everything bad happening in SE games. Bad gameplay? Typical Nomura! Crazy Story? Typical Nomura! People wearing belts? Typical Nom...yeah actually that's him alright.

I blame his name. He is by far the easiest to remember.
In FF7R he isnt actually credited for a lot. He was the director (not creative director), partly the character designer and of course one of the original story writers.

Here are the actual writers of FF7R:

Hiroaki Iwaki	...	(scenario writer) &
Sachie Hirano	...	(scenario writer) &
Naoki Yamamoto	...	(scenario writer) &
Kanako Ikeda	...	(scenario writer) &
Mayu Nakazawa	...	(scenario writer)

You probably never heard of them. Sure the idea about the ending and destiny might partially be Nomuras (and the other leads like Nojima, Kitase and Toriyama) idea, but the actual writing not so much.

Anyway, he is still creative director, so most creative decisions will still go through him anyways.

 

[TheAssist]

Not holding my breath though. I expect if it is "open" it won't be a world map, but rather a large open area that connects to other areas like the massive region in Pulse from FFXIII.

I dont think so. FF15 had a huge open world (devoid of meaningful content). From a technical level they know how to make an open world and I would bet they use this in FF7R. And this time around the amount of content is already established by the original.

 

[sublimit]

Glad Nomura isn't directing. Got him in a figurehead position.

Naoki already co-directed the first game and Nomura will still supervise. The article is making this seem like a bigger deal than it really is.

Not much have changed.

 

[phil_t98]

They releasing half a game?

 

[Furball]

I dont think so. FF15 had a huge open world (devoid of meaningful content). From a technical level they know how to make an open world and I would bet they use this in FF7R. And this time around the amount of content is already established by the original.

That is from completely different Team . The team that make FF7R are well know for Hallway since FF10

 

[MAtgS]

This is the same guy who cut FF out of KH. The very foundation of KH. Why would anyone want him working on anything? His changes and descisions are awful for any game development.

Calling FF the "foundation" of KH is a bit of a stretch. As long as it has Disney, it's still KH.

 

[GymWolf]

Nomura not being the director is the first thing they do right with this fucking remake, too bad it's too late to save the ship, the damage is already done.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Calling FF the "foundation" of KH is a bit of a stretch. As long as it has Disney, it's still KH.

Not to mention there were already tens of unique characters who needed their spotlight and the FF characters finished their arc in KH2.

They don’t want to look at reality and instead. folks just want a reason to cry about a Nomura and how he ruins everything he touches.

 

[Neff]

Its funny how Nomura for some people is just this lightning rod for everything bad happening in SE games.

he's an easy target because he's an eccentric fellow with some very unorthodox fashion ideas.

Personally I'm more interested to know where the modern trend for shitting on Kitase comes from.

 

[Fuz]

have a world map.

I bet Evilore's left testicle that's not gonna happen.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Naoki already co-directed the first game and Nomura will still supervise. The article is making this seem like a bigger deal than it really is.

Not much have changed.

Nomura is now in a figurehead position. If he was going to be as hands as before then they wouldn't be telling everyone his change in position in the first place.

 

[MeteorVII]

Nomura is now in a figurehead position. If he was going to be as hands as before then they wouldn't be telling everyone his change in position in the first place.

That’s not what sublimit was saying.

Obviously Nomura isn’t going to be as hands-on with this as he was previously, but it’s also not like he’s straight up abandoning his directorial role. He’s still the main driving force of the Remake.

The part that’s weird to me is what are the “plethora” of projects he’s managing right now? Hypothetically, why would KH4 even take any sort of priority or precedent over FF7 REMAKE for example?

 

[Mister Wolf]

That’s not what sublimit was saying.

Obviously Nomura isn’t going to be as hands-on with this as he was previously, but it’s also not like he’s straight up abandoning his directorial role. He’s still the main driving force of the Remake.

The part that’s weird to me is what are the “plethora” of projects he’s managing right now? Hypothetically, why would KH4 even take any sort of priority or precedent over FF7 REMAKE for example?

Him not "directing" the project means it will get done on time.

 

[MeteorVII]

Him not "directing" the project means it will get done on time.

I mean if that’s your priority, then yeah I guess.

I on the other hand would wait till the end of the PS5’s life cycle for FFVIIR Part 2 if it means it could retain the same quality or be even better than Part 1. (Especially since FFXVI is right around the corner...)

 

[TheContact]

Good. Nomura is a hack anyway.

he played a pretty significant role in the success of the FF series. but he has no business being a director

 

[Naked Lunch]

So, 2025-26 then?

 

[peronmls]

B-But I don't like Nomura why hasn't he been fired yet?!

Kingdom Hearts 3 Is Now the Best-Selling Game in Franchise History Says NPD

Kingdom Hearts 3 has become the top-selling game in the franchise's 17-year history.

www.dualshockers.com

KH3 best selling KH game ever only half a year after its release

More than 5 million copies of FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE shipped and sold worldwide | Square Enix

The critically-acclaimed RPG has been a critical and commercial success, particularly in terms of digital sales. Find out more here.

square-enix-games.com

Again only 3 months after release.

Yea I wonder why the guy bringing in the most money into SE hasn't been fired yet .

KH3 sold as well as it did only because of it's long awaited over hype and number title. It's not even the same devs as KH1 and KH2.

he played a pretty significant role in the success of the FF series. but he has no business being a director

He has no business being a writer as well. He should stick to 2d art.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

Fuck FF7, remake FF8. It's better in every single way.

 

[Grand Theft Scratchy]

Fuck FF7, remake FF8. It's better in every single way.

You are wrong, Mr. Frog. Final Fantasy VIII has one of the worst development/summon systems in the series.

Final Fantasy IX is the best, followed by Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy Tactics, if we're talking good PS1-era Final Fantasy games.

 

[KingdomHeartsFan]

KH3 sold as well as it did only because of it's long awaited over hype and number title. It's not even the same devs as KH1 and KH2.

And? None of that takes away from the games success. Literally every series sells better with numbered titles.

 

[Trogdor1123]

He spelt ps6 funny

 

[Neff]

Fuck FF7, remake FF8. It's better in every single way.

I disagree that VIII is better than VII, but it's still a corking game, and Junction deserves another shot.

 

[peronmls]

And? None of that takes away from the games success. Literally every series sells better with numbered titles.

B-But I don't like Nomura why hasn't he been fired yet?!

Yea I wonder why the guy bringing in the most money into SE hasn't been fired yet .

Nomuras directing and writing is not what sold KH3 is what I'm saying. His concepts and art are what helped build those games. Nojima, the other 3 original writers and the original team are what sold KH1 and KH2.

Calling FF the "foundation" of KH is a bit of a stretch. As long as it has Disney, it's still KH.

Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 were made by Final Fantasy developers. No. It's not a KH game it. It is a Disney game made by a development team who has never made a FF or an RPG ever.

 

[MeteorVII]

Nomuras directing and writing is not what sold KH3 is what I'm saying.

Yes it is. His specific talents and zany creativity is what sold those games. His willingness and dedication to getting Pixar worlds added to the game sold it. That’s called direction.

His concepts and art are what helped build those games. Nojima, the other 3 original writers and the original team are what sold KH1 and KH2.

You...do realise Nojima and Nomura are partners in a lot of this, right? Nomura is the idea guy essentially, and Nojima just writes his ideas down in a coherent manner.

This has been the basis for Nomura’s involvement in every game he’s ever worked on including the original FFVII, where the best narrative decisions and character arcs were created solely by Nomura and then enhanced by others.

 

[Werewolf Jones]

You are wrong, Mr. Frog. Final Fantasy VIII has one of the worst development/summon systems in the series.

Final Fantasy IX is the best, followed by Final Fantasy VII and Final Fantasy Tactics, if we're talking good PS1-era Final Fantasy games.

IX>VIII>VII.

Also VIII doesn't need to be remade, the Junction system is the pleb filter and the remaster does a fine job for the most part.

Also lmao if you use summons late game in FF VIII. I had Squall absolutely demolish everything on his own.

Nomura has his heart in the right place as much as I hate on him but he's made some poor decisions, but this one is a good one.

 

[peronmls]

Yes it is. His specific talents and zany creativity is what sold those games. His willingness and dedication to getting Pixar worlds added to the game sold it. That’s called direction.

You...do realise Nojima and Nomura are partners in a lot of this, right? Nomura is the idea guy essentially, and Nojima just writes his ideas down in a coherent manner.

This has been the basis for Nomura’s involvement in every game he’s ever worked on including the original FFVII, where the best narrative decisions and character arcs were created solely by Nomura and then enhanced by others.

The world scenarios, characters, writing and voice acting was horrible in 3. Only fan boi's with KH avatars and the name Kingdom Hearts in their user name wouldn't see that slip in quality in their favorite game series. The game has half the substance of KH2 and about 1/3 of the writing.

Nojima only oversaw the writing scenarios of KH3. He did not write anything for 3 or past 2 for that matter.

 

[MeteorVII]

The world scenarios, characters, writing and voice acting was horrible in 3.

Characters, voice acting and writing, sure. They’re a point of contention in all the games... (though I’d argue the characters, writing and voice acting is still better than most JRPGs due to the Disney cast naturally being good.)

World scenarios in KH3 are unanimously regarded as the best in the entire series, so I have no idea what you’re talking about there to be perfectly honest...

Only fan boi's with KH avatars and the name Kingdom Hearts in their user name wouldn't see that slip in quality in their favorite game series.

First of all, I really don’t get what GAF’s severe, undying obsession with people’s avatars is. It’s beyond strange and kinda creepy. I could have chosen a different avatar of anything for any number of reasons... It literally means nothing. I don’t have “Kingdom Hearts” in my username either.

Also, it’s hilarious that you call me a fanboy even though I’m the one arguing that all these games had poor qualities, not just the one you’re screeching about.

The game has half the substance of KH2 and about 1/3 of the writing.

What exactly was so substantive about KH2’s writing?

Nojima only oversaw the writing scenarios of KH3. He did not write anything for 3 or past 2 for that matter.

You don’t have to literally write something down to be part of the writing team.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

Dude has made amazing games! KH1,2, FF7R are universally acclaimed games, and FFXV (half him) and KH3 are solid too

All of these games are trash.

 

[West Texas CEO]

Fuck FF7, remake FF8. It's better in every single way.

Aye, FFVIII would look tremendous remade in HD.

Plus, if Square can tweak the junction system properly, that would be insanely awesome as well.

 

[MeteorVII]

All of these games are trash.

 

[Imru’ al-Qays]

There's nothing controversial about the objective fact that there hasn't been a good single player FF since XII.

 

[MeteorVII]

There's nothing controversial about the objective fact that there hasn't been a good single player FF since XII.

 

[SkylineRKR]

I love FFVIII as I enjoyed the remaster a lot still, pretty much did everything in that game. A remake would change the combat anyway, so the stupid junction system etc doesn't really matter. It won't come back in that broken form.

 

[Mr.ODST]

Wonder if Part 2 will be Sony Exclusive for a short period aswell, if they start with the offset of PS5 sure it will look incredible!

 

[Kholinar]

There's nothing controversial about the objective fact that there hasn't been a good single player FF since XII.

>objective

lol.

 

[West Texas CEO]

I bet Evilore's left testicle that's not gonna happen.

I don't think you can use that as collateral. Especially if you're not a Gold member.