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Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age |OT| You Had One Job!

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pelicansurf

Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
Carbonox said:
The 88/97/90 Cure RNG method didn't apply to me so the backup 97/94/95 method does apply to me (I believe it's one or other for everyone). This also relies on you watching the boy rather than the guy on the stairs. (unlike the timer method the kid only needs to go to his parent once and then the moment he moves to the middle to look over the balcony, that's when you open the box). The Cure RNG method DOES work without fail though in terms of making the chest appear. I'm 2 for 2 on that front so far. I messed up the first attempt for the bow because I was looking at the wrong person.

1 Cure RNG + boy balcony attempt completed = 1 Seitengrat obtained

I'm going to try it a couple more times to see if it's 100% reproducible. Right now this was bang on the money.

Edit: 2 Cure RNG + boy balcony attempt completed = 2 Seitengrat obtained

oh my

For those interested, the videos are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VpFs1O8s9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHrtUb_wY0

The first one tells you the method, the second is the back-up if you do not get the 88/97/90 order (AT ALL, you'll know if you spend like 5 minutes and the order doesn't appear as it would never take that long; instead keep an eye then on the 97/94/95 order and that will be your cue in which case watch the second video because there are different things you need to watch out for on the ferry).
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I keep consistently getting 10 Gil out of the chest. I must be fucking something up.
 
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Isotropy

Member
I'm going through Revenant Wings again and I want to reiterate my PSA:

If you enjoyed XII's characters/world, and can tolerate a simple strategy game, consider playing through Revenant Wings - there's a nice story and lots of great character moments in there.
 
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Caim

Member
RPGCrazied said:
Any tips for Antlion?
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It's very weak to wind so use magic and any wind elemental weapons like the Zwill Crossblade.

They are also weak to Warp.

If they linger around too long and Antlion reaches about 40% HP he'll eat them and level up.

It can disable you as well so wear a Black Belt if you got them.
 
B

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Isotropy said:
I'm going through Revenant Wings again and I want to reiterate my PSA:

If you enjoyed XII's characters/world, and can tolerate a simple strategy game, consider playing through Revenant Wings - there's a nice story and lots of great character moments in there.
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I probably will. I've owned the game since back in the day, but I was too busy to actually play it.
 
Pantz

Pantz

Member
Carbonox said:
These Seitengrat videos are pouring out.

This one from yesterday is all about dat Cure manipulation RNG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VpFs1O8s9I

I already have 1 Seitengrat bow from the first method that was revealed (which isn't 100% reliable) but I'm going to give this one a try and see how reliable it is.

Always interested in shit like this.
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Nice, worked on first try and couldn't get the other methods to work.

I won't really be using it except maybe if I ever have to grind trash for some reason, not that it would be a huge help with that anyway. I'm progressing the game slower than most.
 
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TheChillyAcademic

Member
I remember playing Revenant Wings a bit and then stopping because...there was something weird about the battle system wasnt there? Either it scaled the enemies or...something annoying
 
OmegaDL50

OmegaDL50

Member
Carbonox said:
The 88/97/90 Cure RNG method didn't apply to me so the backup 97/94/95 method does apply to me (I believe it's one or other for everyone). This also relies on you watching the boy rather than the guy on the stairs. (unlike the timer method the kid only needs to go to his parent once and then the moment he moves to the middle to look over the balcony, that's when you open the box). The Cure RNG method DOES work without fail though in terms of making the chest appear. I'm 2 for 2 on that front so far. I messed up the first attempt for the bow because I was looking at the wrong person.

1 Cure RNG + boy balcony attempt completed = 1 Seitengrat obtained

I'm going to try it a couple more times to see if it's 100% reproducible. Right now this was bang on the money.

Edit: 2 Cure RNG + boy balcony attempt completed = 2 Seitengrat obtained

oh my

For those interested, the videos are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VpFs1O8s9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHrtUb_wY0

The first one tells you the method, the second is the back-up if you do not get the 88/97/90 order (AT ALL, you'll know if you spend like 5 minutes and the order doesn't appear as it would never take that long; instead keep an eye then on the 97/94/95 order and that will be your cue in which case watch the second video because there are different things you need to watch out for on the ferry).
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The first video worked for me. I got two Seitengrats back to back, and will probably get a 3rd just for crowd clearing in my three man team. I think having 6 of em for all six characters would be just overkill.
 
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mstevens

Member
About to try for the 1 in 10,000 invisible chest bow. I've heard conflicting reports of what works and what doesn't. Anyone have success?

I think it's auto save on the deck. Load and wait 20 seconds. Go back in and out. Walk to chest and wait until the kid npc goes to his mom 4 times.

Edit: had an old version of the thread up.. should probably look at the post above me, huh? Thanks!
 
OmegaDL50

OmegaDL50

Member
mstevens said:
About to try for the 1 in 10,000 invisible chest bow. I've heard conflicting reports of what works and what doesn't. Anyone have success?

I think it's auto save on the deck. Load and wait 20 seconds. Go back in and out. Walk to chest and wait until the kid npc goes to his mom 4 times.
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Look at the first video I quoted in the post above. I tried it once and it worked guaranteed on my very first try. I got two of them back to back.

I am going to go for my 3rd one now.
 
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Atlantis

Member
Caim said:
Archer has access to 5 magic lores via one of the espers, but I think you can also reach it if one of your nodes happen to be shared.
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Unfortunately, the Archer's Magick Lores aren't the four that the Red Battlemage doesn't unlock on its own, so you're actually not getting anything extra. (Each Magick Lore is a unique Augment with a hidden number.)

TheChillyAcademic said:
Yeah, master of none and all that.
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Well an important thing to consider is actually who is getting Cúchulainn. Without Cúchulainn, Red Battlemage doesn't have access to -aga level spells, so make sure you don't have another character that will want him. (Shikari unlocks Protectga and Shellga) Since this is about Fran, her bow speed being a little slower than some of the other party members might be a consideration as well. (Though in the end this combo is basically just going to chain cast Ardor.)

I was actually trying to decide between these two combos for my Penelo and I ended up deciding on Black Mage / Red Battlemage. Since I have Cúchulainn going to another character I really wanted the versatility from the Black Mage.

TheChillyAcademic said:
Hmmm.

So I made Basch a Bushi/Knight...but given that Hashmal is a better fit for Ashe Knight/TM, is he SOL for using white magic? lol
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All of Knight's White Magick is locked behind Mateus and Hashmal.
 
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Atlantis

Member
TheChillyAcademic said:
Would it make sense to give one to one knight and one to another? Or would that deprive the overall strength of one singular knight?
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Well both unlocks give a healing spell, so splitting them up spreads some healing through the party.

However, it really depends on what their secondary jobs are and what you want the Knights to do. If one Knight is going to be using Genji Gloves (and probably Berserk) and one isn't, then you'd be best placing it on the second Knight.
 
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TheChillyAcademic

Member
Atlantis said:
Well both unlocks give a healing spell, so splitting them up spreads some healing through the party.

However, it really depends on what their secondary jobs are and what you want the Knights to do. If one Knight is going to be using Genji Gloves (and probably Berserk) and one isn't, then you'd be best placing it on the second Knight.
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Knight/Time Mage and a Bushi/Knight lol Ashe and Basch respectively.
 
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mstevens

Member
So I just tried the cure method. It took me 50 minutes to get one of the 3 number combinations (97, 94, 95). When I hit start, square to go to the main menu, then loaded up the autosave where I was on the deck, there was no chest. Unsure what I did wrong.
 
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Dangansona

Member
Lee Chaolan said:
Ahhh, what the hell happened to the opening movie that played when you left it still on the main menu screen for 30 seconds?

I always watched that before I started, one of my favorite opening movies and always got me pumped to play!

Super disappointing that it's gone =/
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So they truly did cut it. What the hell... that thing hits me hard everytime I watch it and I don't even have an attachment to the game (I played it up until the "I'm Captain Basch!" part a few years ago). Even then I felt something the first time I saw it.
 
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Aeana

Member
Zeromus is such a pain, but at least you can use shades of black and motes help with the adds. Glad he's over and done with now.
 
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Atlantis

Member
HerroRygar said:
Kinda seems like Bushi/Knight isn't worth it then. Holy robes + Excalibur seems nice but with genji gloves and a katana you'll already be fucking shit up. Going with Bushi/Uhlan for that reason.
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Bushi + Uhlan actually gets you Holy Lance + White Robes anyway.

Bushi/Knight has some nice synergy, but when you start doubling up on classes that rely on Esper unlocks for spells like Knight, Monk, or Red Battlemage you lose a bit.
 
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hamauzu kaito

Member
I just started the game and went to do the first hunt. I come back and the gates closed and Kytes says to come back in 184m 17s. I started to laugh my head off because I realized for some reason the game hadn't finished downloading...

However what I've played so far is amazing. I tried to replay the game last year but quit because of horrible IQ on modern displays. It was hurting my eyes. This is a godsend. AND OH OHHHH OHHHHH the new soundtrack is sublime!!
 
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AmethystEnd

Member
hamauzu kaito said:
I just started the game and went to do the first hunt. I come back and the gates closed and Kytes says to come back in 184m 17s. I started to laugh my head off because I realized for some reason the game hadn't finished downloading...

However what I've played so far is amazing. I tried to replay the game last year but quit because of horrible IQ on modern displays. It was hurting my eyes. This is a godsend. AND OH OHHHH OHHHHH the new soundtrack is sublime!!
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Holy shit, lol. That's kinda awesome, actually.
 
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mstevens

Member
mstevens said:
So I just tried the cure method. It took me 50 minutes to get one of the 3 number combinations (97, 94, 95). When I hit start, square to go to the main menu, then loaded up the autosave where I was on the deck, there was no chest. Unsure what I did wrong.
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Oooof.. apparently it doesn't spawn on your first trip. PSA: Don't be a fool like me and try it on the first trip.
 
Whogie

Whogie

Member
What causes party member lock? Is there an easy way to make it stop?

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Sietengrat, first try. 88, 97, 90 came up without needing to even refill Rek's MP.

I think I'll leave it unequipped mostly :p

mstevens said:
Oooof.. apparently it doesn't spawn on your first trip. PSA: Don't be a fool like me and try it on the first trip.
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It was my first trip.
 
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mstevens

Member
Whogie said:
What causes party member lock? Is there an easy way to make it stop?

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Sietengrat, first try. 88, 97, 90 came up without needing to even refill Rek's MP.

I think I'll leave it unequipped mostly :p



It was my first trip.
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Hmm idk. I did 97, 94, 95 so maybe that doesn't work the first trip. Otherwise I have no idea why no chest popped up.

edit: Yes, 100% there is a 97, 94, 95 sequence that doesn't result in a chest. Just did it again and I got the same string of RNG as my previous attempt for about 40 minutes (I know it was the same because the only ones where I got 2 of the 3 were 88, 97, 89... 88, 97, 87... 97, 94, 88... and finally 97, 94, 95) No chest for this attempt either.

Big waste of about an hour and a half.
 
Whogie

Whogie

Member
That sucks :/

Basche and his friends have left Reks, right?

And did you quit the game to PS4 menu before trying to get Cure RNG? (but then Start->Square when the numbers did appear)

abrack08 said:
They're locked if they're being targeted by an enemy or all. And (I think) if they're in the middle of an action themselves.
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Ah, thank you.
 
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Syntsui

Member
Got three Seintengrat with the Cure method. Finally a real 100% method that is not a farse, hopefully this guy make guides for Trango Tower and Gendarme.
 
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mstevens

Member
Whogie said:
That sucks :/

Basche and his friends have left Reks, right?

And did you quit the game to PS4 menu before trying to get Cure RNG? (but then Start->Square when the numbers did appear)
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Yeah.

I brought Reks past the save crystal so Basch left. Then went back and saved. Got Vaan on the flight from Rabanastre to Nalbina. Parked him on the deck. Quit to the dashboard. Loaded up the Reks save and got the 3 numbers. Pressed start -> square to quit to the main menu. Loaded the auto save. Ran up and no chest, twice now.

Since I got the same string of cures two attempts in a row, I just think that this particular 97, 94, 95 doesn't work. I must be past the point where the working sequences are.

It's especially frustrating because it seems like it has literally worked for everyone else.
 
A

Alucrid

Banned
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i never wanted a seitengrat anyways
 
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Lights and Waves

Member
TheChillyAcademic said:
Just finished the Tomb, how do we go from this game to FFXIII? Like, what soul within SE just died and turned dark?

Night and fucking day, FFXIII may have more technical prowess in one random battle than in the entirety of Ivalice but GOD DAMN. THIS is a Final Fantasy game.
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Lol. I'd wait until you finish the game before posting stuff like this. Prepare to eat crow, kupo.
 
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TheChillyAcademic

Member
Lights and Waves said:
Lol. I'd wait until you finish the game before posting stuff like this. Prepare to eat crow, kupo.
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I beat the game in 2006 and was somewhat disappointed with some of the conclusions but...I mean a FF sudoku puzzle was better put together than FFXIII.

FFXII wasn't perfect but my god does its shortcomings still manage to keep it hand and fist above XIII.
 
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mstevens

Member
Man - so frustrated about this Seitengrat Bow. None of the posted methods have worked for me. I know about sunk cost but I'm having a hell of a time ignoring it.

It's the principle of the damn thing at this point.
 
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