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Final Fantasy XIII |OT|
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CruxisMana
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... And he did the exact same thing again.
The game has now been shelved
The game has now been shelved
for the evening.
DangerousDave
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Himuro said:
No, you missed half of my message. It's FF10 is just as linear AND MUCH MORE repetitive than 13.
Last time i checked, 13 didn't hat invisible random encounter each 10 seconds, making any movement from A to B (even if it's only a 30 second movement to get a chest) a boring 5 minutes slow battle fest.
Also, i get the possibility of surprise attacks, checking the movement and the facing of the enemies, like an stealth game, over a "capture monster minigame" that is based in random encounters, that means hours of going back and for in a small place hoping that the next random encounter will be with that kind of enemy that you want to capture.
badcrumble
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The difference is that FF10 doesn't restrict you to Inside Sin and the Calm Lands at the end of the game. (also, it has better characters, a better story, and better music)DangerousDave said:
ZephyrFate
Banned
Better music is super debatable. I know I could not stand the battle music in X after the first ten or so battles. Ugh.
badcrumble
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Yeah, FF13's battle music is WAY better, I'll definitely give it that, and it's probably the single song you spend the most time hearing in each game. I still feel like having one piece of battle music at all is a step backward from FF12 - if anything, I'd rather they adopt the Kingdom Hearts solution, in which every area of the game has its own battle music that transitions fairly naturally from the area's normal music.ZephyrFate said:
badcrumble
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Likewise - this is far from his best work. There are some very good tracks in there, but it's not particularly memorable and some of it doesn't even hit the mood particularly well. I look forward to seeing what Shimomura can do with FF Versus XIII, at any rate. I've admired her work since Parasite Eve.Himuro said:
ZephyrFate
Banned
The trance pop song fits the fact that you are using the happy-go-lucky Vanille, so that track is fine. Blues and jazz are fine, particularly in regards to the fact that you're using Sazh, and jazz/blues is awesome.Himuro said:
FFXIII has VARIETY, and I LOVE that. Also, Defiers of Fate, aka the electric guitar version of the main battle theme, is totally awesome.
I am so done with Uematsu's simple melodies. Hamauzu knows musical dynamism.
badcrumble
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Right, his FFX work was fantastic, and a lot of the tracks in FF13 feel like they're trying to remind me very specifically of better tracks from FFX. The ones that don't attempt to do that are pretty good, though - I like basically any of the background tracks with vocals in them especially because that's so atypical to FF.Himuro said:
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
The notable tracks that I've liked by FFXIII were the piano theme, the battle theme (if it's not constantly repeated), and the beach sounding theme in Gran Pulse.
But still, FFX had one of the most memorable piano track: that is To Zanarkand and its variation Someday The Dream Will End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xRCjjiTR7I), also I loved Besaid's atmospheric soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2UjfueRo7g).
But still, FFX had one of the most memorable piano track: that is To Zanarkand and its variation Someday The Dream Will End (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xRCjjiTR7I), also I loved Besaid's atmospheric soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2UjfueRo7g).
ZephyrFate
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The only tracks in the entirety of FFX that were even mildly noteworthy were People of the North Pole, Decisive Battle (final boss theme) and Beyond the Darkness. Everything else was meh-tastic.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Himuro said:
Yaschas Massif was pretty amazing too despite sounding like Elevator music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze_h6DK2jps
Kinda like Besaid Island theme.
ZephyrFate
Banned
The chapter 6 boss fight with Sazh is not his theme, but instead Can't Catch a Break, which is one of the most interesting and awesome jazz themes ever made in a videogame. Fucking ADORE that track. I LOVE jazz with fights.
All of those songs put me to sleep, thanks Himuro!
All of those songs put me to sleep, thanks Himuro!
ZephyrFate
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Fantastic, but it's not.Himuro said:
FateBreaker
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Himuro said:
Totally disagree. It's as wonderful as ever.
RoodyPooUS
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100 hours in with a lot of extra time since I leave it on other than at night. I have been watching TV while grinding the turtle at Eden and racked up 6 mil in gil after upgrading most accessories, I might not even have to grind Dark Matter at this rate.
I just need to finish and 5 star Missions 62-64, upgrade to get all the weapons and top HP/STR/Mag accessories and kill a Sha Long Gui.
Overall, the game was enjoyable but disappointing since it won't have any lasting impact at all. It will just probably slowly fade from my memory till I barely remember playing it.
At least my preorder from Amazon was good for something, $10 off Resonance of Fate which will be coming in on Saturday.
I just need to finish and 5 star Missions 62-64, upgrade to get all the weapons and top HP/STR/Mag accessories and kill a Sha Long Gui.
Overall, the game was enjoyable but disappointing since it won't have any lasting impact at all. It will just probably slowly fade from my memory till I barely remember playing it.
At least my preorder from Amazon was good for something, $10 off Resonance of Fate which will be coming in on Saturday.
ZephyrFate
Banned
I LOVE the fact that they used something atypical for a boss fight. Makes it that much more interesting atmospherically.Himuro said:
badcrumble
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This game really makes me miss the FFX/XII summons. Granted, the summons in FFXIII are MOSTLY tactically valuable as a total-recovery tool (and they're damn useful for that), but I felt that the FFX ones fit into the battle system quite well (although they were kinda cheap and basically broke the game on several boss battles), and while the FFXII ones were pretty useless, I thought they easily had the best art design and 'finishing moves' of any FF summons ever. These ones are just kind of weird and feel like an afterthought, though I love having Bahamut as a summon again.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
That's what's good about it :lol I love the diverse soundtrack. IMO this is one of the beat soundtracks in gaming.Himuro said:
Crash Station
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Himuro said:
Besaid Island....
Square needs to re-release the PS2 generation on Blu-ray with trophies. This makes me want to replay 10 soooooooo bad.
DangerousDave
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Himuro said:
Not really. FF XIII don't have battles each 10 seconds even if you go rushing any enemy during the storyline. Also, the problem is that you can't avoid enemies in FF X when those enemies are not worthy in px and objects.
Also, the same fact that you can stealth (to avoid or to surprise), and different enemies have different movement routes, vision archs and sound sensibility, gives more variety (and that's even without comparing the combat modes)
DangerousDave said:
Also the upside that FFXIII battles often take a few seconds, while FFX battles take much longer. They are usually a chore.
In fact, most of that game was a chore. Horrible voice acting and cutscenes, boring battle system, and linear walking with token town that were usually useless. Had fun sidequests though (outside of chocobo and lightning).
badcrumble
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CTB is an incredibly great battle system, it's just that it is stuck in a game with the difficulty turned down to zero.
Dedication Through Light
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omg rite said:
I love the boss and then theme of that one
YES! Platinum trophy get! (105 hours...)
excellent game, a bit too easy with the auto-battle stuff but solid game overall and quite beautiful, grinding Pulse wasn't so tedious after all as I was constantly thinking and testing new strategies and paradigms/equipments to do things faster. Maybe following a guide would have made it more efficient but less interesting on the other hand.
focus achieved... *turns into crystal*
excellent game, a bit too easy with the auto-battle stuff but solid game overall and quite beautiful, grinding Pulse wasn't so tedious after all as I was constantly thinking and testing new strategies and paradigms/equipments to do things faster. Maybe following a guide would have made it more efficient but less interesting on the other hand.
focus achieved... *turns into crystal*
Fun Factor
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Himuro said:
-Weather changing.
-Robot riding.
-Generator switch flipping.
-Chocobo finding mini-game.
-Correct elevator arrangement.
-Optional electronic gate opening.
-Mark hunts with different gameplay requisitions for some of them.
-Chocobo riding.
-Robot parts collecting.
-Specific stealth segments.
Then there are the vastly different designs of the levels that switch up the feel & variety a lot.
FFX might have had more, but you are deluding yourself if you are saying this game has no variety.
ninjaurbano
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I started playing chapter 11... Which is better: complete the missions or skip it to beat the game?
Fimbulvetr
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Himuro said:
FTWer said:
Seriously? Are you not laughing your ass off or being sarcastic by saying this stuff? It's been the same exact stuff up to the end of chapter 11 for me. The only thing that happened that classifies as variety are doing the optional hunts, the rest is all diversions. Seriously, stuff like weather changing was used for about one 5 minute segment and did nothing but determine what enemies you fight. All you do in the game is run around, and fight--none of that changes, even marks are still just going and doing optional fights. Collecting parts, really? You just examine stuff marked on your map, which usually involved fighting to get to, not to mention was also just another couple minute diversion. Every dungeon has been nothing but running forward, the only one that stood out is the tower, which was the exact same, just with a little bit more backtracking.
The game doesn't have variety. That might not matter to you, but you don't need to try and cover for a potential fault with an argument that holds no real point.
I've tried defending FFXIII and I've tried liking it, and I do like it... kind of. I still feel however that there's something fundamentally wrong with it.
I'm at the beginning of Chapter 10 in the game. I have been for 2 weeks, because thats how long its been since I've loaded up the game. I just dont feel the pull anymore and there's something wrong with that as well. I remember past FF games causing me to call in sick to work so I could sit at home playing it. Normally, I should have already completed the game and be deep into my 2nd playthrough, but I'm having troubles getting the motivation to even play it again.
I have Final Fantasy 9 (my favorite) on disks and made an image out of it to play on my homebrewed PSP. I also loaded up SNES Emu to play FF6. I'm having more fun playing these classic FF games than I have with Final Fantasy Tutorial... I mean XIII. I find myself playing through both those games in tandem (when I get bored with one, I load the other) than I am from the entire experience of FFXIII.
I didn't want to accept it, but I think Square-Enix has jumped the shark on Final Fantasy titles. They're just too far and away from the classics that Squaresoft made staple for JRPGs. I'm sure I'll pick it back up again just for completion, but I can officially say that I'm underwhelmed by this release. Gorgeous, but just not right.
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I'm at the beginning of Chapter 10 in the game. I have been for 2 weeks, because thats how long its been since I've loaded up the game. I just dont feel the pull anymore and there's something wrong with that as well. I remember past FF games causing me to call in sick to work so I could sit at home playing it. Normally, I should have already completed the game and be deep into my 2nd playthrough, but I'm having troubles getting the motivation to even play it again.
I have Final Fantasy 9 (my favorite) on disks and made an image out of it to play on my homebrewed PSP. I also loaded up SNES Emu to play FF6. I'm having more fun playing these classic FF games than I have with Final Fantasy Tutorial... I mean XIII. I find myself playing through both those games in tandem (when I get bored with one, I load the other) than I am from the entire experience of FFXIII.
I didn't want to accept it, but I think Square-Enix has jumped the shark on Final Fantasy titles. They're just too far and away from the classics that Squaresoft made staple for JRPGs. I'm sure I'll pick it back up again just for completion, but I can officially say that I'm underwhelmed by this release. Gorgeous, but just not right.
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Fimbulvetr
Member
miladesn said:
Well the characters were at least pretending that they had to be stealthy.
Captain Pants
Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Does anyone have any tips for C'ieth Stone #27? It is the one you get at the top of the tower. I get eliminated in about 30 seconds every time despite being as leveled up as I can at this point in the game. Is it better to move on to Chapter 12 and come back to this later?
DangerousDave
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Himuro said:
It's not really true. The way as preventive attack works makes a huge difference. There is no real difference in FF X if you get a preventive attack, a normal attack or you get surprised, except a single turn of attack.
But in XIII, there is a lot of difference in normal enemies, being much more difficult (or even impossible without previous grinding) to defeat a lot of enemies without stealth. In the 3 sides battle, where you can get attacked by both sides, is a must. Try to fight some of the chapter 4 or chapter 12 3-side battles
So the stealth is not something about preferences, it's a huge improvement in the gameplay, compared with the forced invisible random encounters with random preventive-surprised-normal results that nearly don't affects the battle.
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