What I was expecting for Gamescom was a trailer full of cutscenes and important dialogues, perhaps even a bit too spoilery, that would make some people regret watching it. We didn't get it, it's ok, I got over it already, but the fact that Regis wasn't even voiced in that trailer definitely bugged me, what are the chances that they even have such content to show, say, at TGS?
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Hopefully soon actually means soon.
BossDarkseid
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If there's one thing I've learnt in my life so far it's that my definition of soon almost always differs to whatever someone in the game industry/movie industry etc means.
I guess by soon they mean PAX (supposedly when release will be announced?) or TGS.
They're not announcing the date at PAX, they're announcing when they will announce it.
I'm not sure what basis people have for speculating where one particular area of the engine is leading to problems. To me it seems all pure speculation. They may be right, but there is no information supporting their argument other than historical anecdotes (and the more convincing evidence that UE4 is damn easy to use).
If people are projecting that performance issues of Luminous would suddenly be fixed by moving to UE4, another thing to bear in mind that open world UE4 still runs like ass on a powerful pc. There still hasn't been a UE4 game on consoles validating the ease by which a big game can be made. I'm inclined to believe that it is the case because that is what Epic is focusing on, but it isn't proven.
BossDarkseid
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If all they're doing at PAX then is talking about stuff, might as well talk in detail about the changes made and the reasons for them.
I would actually consider that to be an interesting and substantial update.
YankeeDonB
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I really like the sound of this. The tension between Noctis' "just want to hang w/ my bros" attitude and his political duty could play out in a variety of interesting ways. Not like this is a unique theme, but it is fairly unique for a FF main character.
Didn't we kind of get a tentative date?
Tabata's aiming for "Not 2017", which still falls in line with Kagari's suggestion of Fall, with that wiggle room of up to Christmas 2016.
Whether or not he hits this goal is one thing but I'm sure he's being pressured by S-E to not give a release date yet for other reasons. I'm sure a metric buttload of paperwork and mechanisms come into play once they announce an official release date as far as reserving manufacturing for the physical disks as well as setting up deals with retailers, maybe they're not ready for that just yet.
Has there ever been another game where it's been over a year and a half out and the release date is set in stone, down to the day?
Tabata's aiming for "Not 2017", which still falls in line with Kagari's suggestion of Fall, with that wiggle room of up to Christmas 2016.
Whether or not he hits this goal is one thing but I'm sure he's being pressured by S-E to not give a release date yet for other reasons. I'm sure a metric buttload of paperwork and mechanisms come into play once they announce an official release date as far as reserving manufacturing for the physical disks as well as setting up deals with retailers, maybe they're not ready for that just yet.
Has there ever been another game where it's been over a year and a half out and the release date is set in stone, down to the day?
Munba
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oh my...
Which is why the scene I hope the most that's still in (or at least the general tone and intent of that scene) is the one where Noctis and Ignis swear revenge in the 2011 trailer (IIRC), Noctis promises to pay them back 10x, Ignis says "let's make it 100x" (or something like that, someone will correct me with what was really said), the look in Noctis' face in that scene is so different from any other scene from any trailer yet, it really shows well what he went through, from "just want to hang out with my bros" to losing everything he holds dear.
I don't know, it's nothing really that big or important, I guess, but it always felt to me like that scene really represented their actual journey through the game very well, we're seeing a lot of pre-shit hit the fan and the moment it does, but we haven't seen much of what's next, if anything at all, and most of the game will be that.
Good point.
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I agree that it is all conjecture.
artsi
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He's now officially announcing technological collaboration between XV team and Avalance, which they had already talked about in March over at GDC.
Avalance has expertise on airplanes and high altitudes in their games, so they're going to consult each other so Tabata would be able to ship "full scale" airships on release. But he's saying again (like in the ATR) that even if they run out of time with those before deadline, they can be patched in after release.
He really wants players to explore the world from the air, and is excited for it himself too.
YankeeDonB
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Maybe. But if this type of transition is important to Noctis' character arc, there'll just be some other scene serving the same purpose.
Dark_castle
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The particular shot may be cut, but the point of the specific conversation was to highlight a turning point in which Noctis and Ignis plans a revenge scheme against Niflheim, and we know the conflict between Niflheim and Lucis still exists. Thus, it's very likely that this scene will happen one way or another.
Lol. Women, they're importantfor marriage.
That's a pretty unfair interpretation.
GOOD.
I have a Pavlovian reaction whenever I hear the words fal'cie or l'cie or cie'th. My vision blurs, I get dizzy, I start tasting blood, and I have to explain to the police that, no officer, I have no idea where the bodies came from.
YankeeDonB
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Actually, this comes across as: MEN, they're important for marriage. Luna is the one w/ the power, Noctis/Lucis sounds like the supplicant party. Basically, he's going to be a trophy husband.
Dark_castle
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Princesses during Ancient China often engaged in arranged marriage with Princes of neighboring nation as a mean to preserve peace between each other. In that sense, they were important to the good of the country and the rulers, even if the Princesses weren't keen of their designated husband.
I found that on 4chan.
A [Win]dows version of FFXV, apparently. But it could only be the dev version working on PC.
Side by side we can read "Win PS4 XB1"
Personally i'm just assuming the PC version will come at some point, which is why i'm not pre-ordering the PS4 version just yet.
Type 0 is coming, after all.
I'm sorry, are you reading correctly?
The bolded part is actually 'princess' in the original Japanese. So the way to read this is:
In other words, the princesses are important, so marrying them off? Means the other side got a deal.
The husband isn't the trophy here. The princess is, because supposedly she has high value, special role, etc. and she's being married off as a symbol of peace and happiness. To demonstrate how Tenebrae values the peace they're presenting a great prize.
Good job on the male perspective.
I'm well aware of that. But guess what? This is a fantasy based on reality. The setting is contemporary.
But the relations are old fashioned. The roles? Typically sexist.
So basically, Stella was replaced by a trophy princess character. What a great step for female characters in Final Fantasy.
I found that on 4chan.
A [Win]dows version of FFXV, apparently. But it could only be the dev version working on PC.
It would be weird if the engine doesn't support windows (for debug version and such).
Does not make a PC version automatically happen, but we got a tweet yesterday from someone who said Tabata was thinking about a PC version and it might happen after the console version then.
Relaxed Muscle
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I found that on 4chan.
A [Win]dows version of FFXV, apparently. But it could only be the dev version working on PC.
Side by side we can read "Win PS4 XB1"
My guess is that Luminous just run on Win (obviously), is not really indication that the PC version is in active development right now.
Of course, I firmly believe the game will come to PC.
It's an arranged royal marriage. You need to force thing quite a bit to take it as a statement on any gender.
You have two powerful kingdoms that want to seal their peace/collaboration, and in order to do so, they unite both families with a marriage. That's it.
The marriage isn't even happening as far as we know, and Tabata just talked about how Luna is a character after her own objectives, talking about her own dreams. Saying that he means "women are only good for marriage" is ridiculous.
If in the final game she's nothing more than a trophy waifu, I'll agree with you. Until then, it's just bullshit.
You have two powerful kingdoms that want to seal their peace/collaboration, and in order to do so, they unite both families with a marriage. That's it.
The marriage isn't even happening as far as we know, and Tabata just talked about how Luna is a character after her own objectives, talking about her own dreams. Saying that he means "women are only good for marriage" is ridiculous.
If in the final game she's nothing more than a trophy waifu, I'll agree with you. Until then, it's just bullshit.
BossDarkseid
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Are you kidding me?
YOu never played VXIII, you have no idea what Stella's role would have ended up being.
What's the point of people having dicussions if someone's going to pick "evidence" and hypothesis out of thin air...Luna most likely summons Leviathan. Stella put on a light show
Vincent Grayson
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When did he say it would be 900 and not 1080? This is the first I've heard about any confirmation of resolution.
Nah, I'm sure that's what's happening.
In this particular shot:
She's probably thinking "Fucking Niflheim, thank the manly gods I managed to survive. Now where the fuck is my chair?"
SolidSnakex
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He's even said that she's a very strong character.
That's because he didn't say it. All he's said is that it would be easier for them to hit 1080p if they only had to optimize it for one hardware instead of two that have different specs.
I'm sorry, what does this mean?
Hmmm...remember in that Dawn trailer, the scene with the dog was followed by a sound of explosion. I wonder if this picture is the aftermath.
Relaxed Muscle
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Of course not, aside from sitting in the chair, she's gonna be kidnapped a couple of times!
YankeeDonB
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The point I was making is that Luna's power (ability to summon Leviathan maybe?) is WHY she's a desirable marriage partner. Noctis and Lucis need her. That doesn't mean Luna wants to have an arranged marriage of course, or that it might not bother her, and that, in an ideal world she wouldn't be free to decline. But the general fan concern about Luna was that she's weak, and this new info suggests she's definitely not.
If she were a trophy, that would suggest she has no political role in Tenebrae, no power of her own. Her only value would be as chattel, to cement an alliance. But it really doesn't sound like that's the case. Note that, in common parlance, a "trophy spouse" is the one without the power. They're just a symbol of the power the other spouse wields. Luna definitely doesn't fit that bill. Noctis has to go to Luna because of her power, just as a "trophy wife" has to go to her CEO husband because of his (economic) power.
Edit: my evidence here being Tabata's saying that it's Noctis who's weak in comparison to Luna, and he needs her protection.
Duscae isn't 1080p on pS4, but 900p according to Eurogamer.
1080p is a target, but Tabata can't assure it will done.
Some hours ago, Dualshockers talked a bit with Tabata about technical issues on FFXV.
http://www.*****************/2015/0...xbix-one-pc-might-be-considered-after-launch/
He said :
Thinking about it now, maybe the protection Noctis might need from Luna is a political protection? Niflheim may want her dead, but maybe they really needed it to look like collateral damage, and since she survived, they can't just kill her if she goes public, and won't have to hide and fight to survive as I initially thought. She could take Noctis to Tenebrae and offer him political protection so Niflheim can't get to him at some point in the story, maybe even using the "you can't capture/kill my husband, that would mean going against Tenebrae" card?
YankeeDonB
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Definitely seems plausible.
encephalon
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Maybe "special" or "particular" would be a bit easier to understand here than "peculiar."
The Last One
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Tabata is saying that the developing of FF XV is over 75% but concurrent localization/debugging add a lot of work só they're saying 65-70%
It seens it'll really be a worldwide release.
It seens it'll really be a worldwide release.
Dark_castle
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The setting isn't true contemporary however. For instance, you have characters from Niflheim donned in full medieval armor for example, most likely originated from medieval style kingdom.
Regardless, let's say she's a trophy princess character. What is stopping her from doing something else in the story? You are just jumping to conclusion at this point.
Relaxed Muscle
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Day1:"The game is 65%!"
Day2:"Is actually like 65-70%!"
Day3:"You know what? Is 75%, but I'm gonna came with shanenigans to explain why I didn't said this figure 2 days ago! Is truly releasing in 2016?! BTW someone knows a good engine programmer? we need to get a better streaming solution for our engine! But is totally releasing in 2016! Everything is fine!"
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