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Imagine the outrage if they change Tifa clothes to her Advent children one.
People will BURN!!!!
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Imagine the outrage if they change Tifa clothes to her Advent children one.
People will BURN!!!!
TheJollyCorner
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ShinMaruku
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Remember 14 was a train wreck. If they are planning a overhaul like that, should have never shown.
That was really disappoiting, the only hope is that they seem to have a roadmap to follow and since they will be at Comi-con and TGS it means the promotion is indeed in motion.
The only redeeming thing of the ATR was the translator, that guy is fucking amazing, so fast at translating (and he translated even the little jokes), they need to clone him for every other Japanese developer.
The only redeeming thing of the ATR was the translator, that guy is fucking amazing, so fast at translating (and he translated even the little jokes), they need to clone him for every other Japanese developer.
Damerman
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You're a wizard Noctis.
Ah, I thought for a moment he had been scrapped since then. Just as a member of the party then?
josecitoxnyo
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Icyflamez96
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I like the redesign but I like the old design too.
UberTag
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They don't want to commit to that 2017 date when there's a legit chance of missing it.
Makes sense to me.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Better get used to it for when Tabata gets brought to save FFVII Remake from disaster!
I'm never gonna fault anyone with redesigning things, especially when they do it with the intention of making the final product better. It's disappointing, but they don't make these changes without thinking long and hard and evaluating stuff properly.
What I'm really upset about is the message being sent by these guys. Why in the world would you guys show old Regis in Jump Festa 2015? The reason why you have backlash is because there's no consistency...
Before, we could fault that on them having to make necessary changes to make a coherent story, but the things we've been shown even recently aren't safe anymore. What am I supposed to take out of whatever half-assed marketing you're doing if I have no idea what you're trying to do?
What I'm really upset about is the message being sent by these guys. Why in the world would you guys show old Regis in Jump Festa 2015? The reason why you have backlash is because there's no consistency...
Before, we could fault that on them having to make necessary changes to make a coherent story, but the things we've been shown even recently aren't safe anymore. What am I supposed to take out of whatever half-assed marketing you're doing if I have no idea what you're trying to do?
That's what I don't get. They re-announce the game with imagery for people who've been following it forever, but since then it feels like they keep moving further and further away from it. Is it at all possible that Tabata wants to make the story more "his" leading to these changes?
Not to mention that's the "portrayed in the worst possible light" version of events. People love being miserable together. Most didn't watch the ATR, are just operating based on that (useful, far from objective) summary, and this thread is unfolding exactly as most want it to: a complete mess of panic, anger, and deflated hopes.
People are scapegoating Tabata, yet he's giving them exactly what they want deep down: an outlet for the mass production of angst that we have become programmed to love.
I actually expected this kind of thing for 15. 15 along with luminous seems like a hold over from Wada's era the last thing to fall. Its big, slow clunky, trying to use useless expensive tech they cant afford to throw away at this stage, and out of touch with the rest of the company in regards to its development mismanagement. Its been more than 2 years since the original announcement, which they apparently restarted development more than a year before that and they still cant give us any information.
On the other hand we have KH3 adopting the new trends with middleware like UE4 giving KH3 more strides than ever before with Tai Yasue's team. We've probably seen more actual gameplay to be in the final product than we have from FF15.
We have a ton of great open partnerships announced via outsourcing by capable studios also utilizing middleware, and we also have FF7, which if the rumors are true, is adopting all of the new strategies, capable outsourcing development, middleware and a plan being solidly executed.
vainglorious
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I've had deflated hopes ever since playing Duscae.
freikugeln
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Can't blame Tabata for taking the chance to direct a mainline FF but in hindsight FFVersusXIII scraps to FFXV was a stupid move on Squenix's part.All they had were some character designs,a couple of songs and a vague setting along with an engine stuck in development hell with no clear ideas or direction.
They should have canned this a long time ago and instead focused on more feasible projects with more groundwork like FFVIIr and KH3 on unreal 4.
Now l really wonder in what state will the game be if they're forced to release by late 2016/2017.
They should have canned this a long time ago and instead focused on more feasible projects with more groundwork like FFVIIr and KH3 on unreal 4.
Now l really wonder in what state will the game be if they're forced to release by late 2016/2017.
The Last One
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I like the new Regis's design way more than the old one. When the camera shows he holding Noctis in one arm and a sword in the other hand, I thought it was great!
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
This fiscal year is all about Eidos & SE mobile bringing in the dough; next year is all about SE Japan.
March 2016 - Dragon Quest Heroes 2
July-August 2016 - Dragon Quest XI*
October 2016 - Dragon Quest Joker 3*
November-December 2016 - Kingdom Hearts 3
March 2017 - Final Fantasy XV
That's what I think will happen. I don't think FFXV development has progressed enough to release in 2016.
*Usually mainline Dragon Quest release in the summer but I could also see it releasing in October, switching with Joker 3.
**Please note this is the Japan schedule.
March 2016 - Dragon Quest Heroes 2
July-August 2016 - Dragon Quest XI*
October 2016 - Dragon Quest Joker 3*
November-December 2016 - Kingdom Hearts 3
March 2017 - Final Fantasy XV
That's what I think will happen. I don't think FFXV development has progressed enough to release in 2016.
*Usually mainline Dragon Quest release in the summer but I could also see it releasing in October, switching with Joker 3.
**Please note this is the Japan schedule.
TheJollyCorner
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Poetic.Injustice
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This is honestly amazing, the game might surpass Duke Nukem Forever at this rate.
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Seriously, is this the new Duke Nukem Forever? I don't think that or even Too Human were in constant development for this long. But it boggles my mind why Squenix keeps trying to demo and tease this game when it's nowhere near being finished and they've really got nothing to show for it.
I guess mainly to assuage their stockholders and investors. But the reaction speaks volumes.
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Seriously, is this the new Duke Nukem Forever? I don't think that or even Too Human were in constant development for this long. But it boggles my mind why Squenix keeps trying to demo and tease this game when it's nowhere near being finished and they've really got nothing to show for it.
I guess mainly to assuage their stockholders and investors. But the reaction speaks volumes.
threelights
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He already did that.
How many more times will they have to explicitly say that the story from Versus changed? Tabata literally details scene by scene of the beginning of the game to talk about all the stuff they changed there... And then he stops at some point, not because the changes stopped, but because it would start to be spoilers.
This is not the same game. It doesn't have the same characters, it doesn't have the same gameplay, it doesn't have the same story. I don't even doubt that the entire world changed...
Versus was cancelled people. This is FFXV, it's a completely different game. Hopefully people will start to understand this soon...
Imagine the outrage if they change Tifa clothes to her Advent children one.
People will BURN!!!!
I would be both happy and relieved.
There's always a worse alternative.
When the game was only available in Japan, they could pretend it was good... Once the HD remaster has been released in the west... not so much.
They kept pressing "we're keeping all that original vision" button even today.
They really should have drilled this point harder.
This is amazing.
I saw it live at GC and it was quite disturbing to see that they have no real plan how to advertise this game, their message is so inconsistent ... This game really is stuck in development hell.
UberTag
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So Duscae 3.0 demo will ship exclusively with FFXII Remaster and/or Dissidia next year?
Hahahaha.
vainglorious
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Don't worry guys, we'll get our 2016 release. The rest of the game will be a text based dungeon crawler ala Nier.
It will be the most beautiful text you've ever read.
It will be the most beautiful text you've ever read.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
I don't get people's obsession with a character being redesigned mid development. It's not the first game this happens to, and does it really matter whether this or that character is wearing a different hairdo? The game is faltering in more important places.
Glendemonium
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Man... I thought they were back on the right track. Guess it depends on the development team. Did they split the team up to work on the VII remake or something? Just finish XV first guys.
threelights
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This is my biggest problem with Tabata.
Heck, show all the terrible trailers you want, delay the game all you want. But lying is just unacceptable.
Pretty much. Their fear of the backlash that would cause is resulting in a much bigger backlash against them for a prolonged period of time.
Mine go back some time before that, although I liked Episode Duscae. Just don't understand how people are still holding on to what Versus XIII was, and I certainly don't understand how a missable, awkward ATR ended up being the catalyst for so much pseudo-misery.
That's exactly the reason why they should drop the setting and characters from Versus altogether. As long as Noctis and co. are in the game, people will compare this to Versus XIII and early XV.
LordBaztion
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So KH3 is turning into FFXV and FFXV into FFXVI now?
It's tough to buy that argument when the game uses the same looking characters and setting as Versus, at least on initial viewing.
But people tend to not consider this when they see something that looks similar to a previous project.
Few gave Too Human the benefit of the doubt when many called it's decade long development out, even though the PSX version was a completely different game and no work was done during the Gamecube years. So it ended up being just a 3-4 year development.
FFXV is harder to nail down since we don't know exactly when XIII became XV and when Nomura was booted out and Tabata took over. But it's clear that this project has had super troubled development no matter how you slice it.
Exactly. Continuing to use Nomura's characters only reinforces the belief that it is the same game.
Drop Noctis and his friends IMO. They're only necessary if you're keeping the story of XIII, which if you are, then it is harder to say XIII is a "different game" entirely to begin with.
If they could they would, it was probably to long in development where changing an engine would result in lots of bugs an possibly scrapping everything again.
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