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Fixed.
Someone tweet this to Tabata.
Yeah. I like to think that when you do as terrible of a job as he did, it's time to get in the back of the line.
The stars are aligning for Ito's return. Make it so, Square.
DiipuSurotu
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Holy shit no.
ahah, such a bad idea.
Nightengale
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Still looking forward to Toriyama's game. At the least, I should be able to expect an excellent battle system and a very strong cinematic presentation.
He's very talented, it's just so unfortunate that he's not well-rounded enough that his flaws impact the things he's great at.
He's very talented, it's just so unfortunate that he's not well-rounded enough that his flaws impact the things he's great at.
Dark_castle
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Yabberwocky
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I always classify Toriyama as the Michael Bay of the FF directors. He makes fun games (I'm fond of XIII/X-2), but he should never be allowed any plot input. Ever.
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I think I would prefer having my toes broken with a hammer.
The problem is Toriyama isn't a game designer, he's an event planner. It means his strengths are in story and scenario. The reason his games have 'excellent' battle systems is the involvement of game design underlings. There's no talent from Toriyama in that department.
Nightengale
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His roots are that of an event planner, but he's been a game director since XIII, and being the leadership of a game project, I will credit him with the entire package of a game's content to an extent.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
I was going to say this. Toriyama is a (bad) story guy. He is not a game designer. If a game directed by him has good battle system, like X-2, he shouldn't be taking much credit for it. Same if it was not as good, like XIII.
Relaxed Muscle
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Just because those are the things he does, it doesn't mean he is good at them.
Nightengale
Member
Will he ever get a chance to in the short term? It's not like ARR's going to slow down anytime soon, considering its current position especially.
Btw, what about that French interview with Tabata, is it out yet?
They could always put the guy on FF11 on over.
He'll get his chance eventually. He's still kinda basking in the sun with XIV.
Next up, it should be Ito's turn.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
If Hiroyuki Ito really isn't doing it, yes. I want to see what Naoki Yoshida can do with a single-player FF game. In fact, I hope they do a collaboration with Tomoya Asano and Bravely Default team to handle the gameplay, and of course Akihiko Yoshida's character design, Hideo Minaba's art direction. Would be all over it.
Actually thinking about a dream team for FFXVI makes me more excited than FFXV lol.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm pretty sure his success didn't go unnoticed in the company, but maybe is a bit soon.
I'm more worried about who in the company can write a good plot.
Over Ito?
Ito hasn't done anything meaningful since International Zodiac Job System.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Janitors can't make games.
Whompa02
Member
If he's a janitor, he could clean up the mess Toriyama left on the franchise...took a huge dump on the IP last gen.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
None that I could think of TBH. They need to find new talent on this aspect, or get the proven big guns like Yasumi Matsuno.
He wasn't even given a chance!! D:
Meccanical
Member
He probably has no desire to do anything, can't force the man.
I wonder if that's his fault or SE's. Plus, given the delays around XV, XVI could be further along than people think.
Is this a possibility or they plan to keep it chained to FFXIV until the end?
BossDarkseid
Member
Ito and Yoshida co directing.
Either.
I feel like Yoshida should only do it if he's got a cool idea and is up for it, rather than him being forced to do something while his heart is with ARR. I guess to preserve ARRs high quality that's why I suspect co directing roles could work quite well, in the way Nomura and...someone whose name escapes me, work on KH together, even if Nomura is boss. Hell, Toriyama could still be event director unless he helps out on VIIR.
Kagari, do you still know if SE have a "committee" involving Yoshida, Toriyama etc to oversee the future of FF titles? Or did I imagine it...
Either.
I feel like Yoshida should only do it if he's got a cool idea and is up for it, rather than him being forced to do something while his heart is with ARR. I guess to preserve ARRs high quality that's why I suspect co directing roles could work quite well, in the way Nomura and...someone whose name escapes me, work on KH together, even if Nomura is boss. Hell, Toriyama could still be event director unless he helps out on VIIR.
Kagari, do you still know if SE have a "committee" involving Yoshida, Toriyama etc to oversee the future of FF titles? Or did I imagine it...
Given the constraints put on the development of XIII-2 and LR (significantly lower budget, tight deadlines, mandatory asset reuse and outsourcing); I'd be legitimately curious if there were any way to salvage a coherent scenario from the mess they had to work with after XIII's tortured development. Though that doesn't excuse the trash they ended up going with...
I don't think Matsuno could survive another mainline FF. It'd be great if he could eventually agree to collaborate on a smaller project, even if he wasn't directing.
Spehornoob
Member
God, a thtis point, I almost want them to just scrap it an start a new game from scratch. It won't happen, but I gotta wonder at what point they should have just cut their losses.
On another note, I've noticed people mentioning Chrono Break a fair amount lately. Was there a rumor about that or something? I gave up on that existing years and years ago.
On another note, I've noticed people mentioning Chrono Break a fair amount lately. Was there a rumor about that or something? I gave up on that existing years and years ago.
BossDarkseid
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Hasn't Matsuno said he likes absolute control over his story etc and didn't like working on XII at first because even that element was collaborative?
It'd be cool to give him a smaller team for a PSN/Vita sort of game, or even PSN and Steam etc.
AuthenticM
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People trying to concede stuff to Toriyama... lol.
Zoe
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That pic basically looks like he's got more volumous hairin that he doesn't look a million miles from Yakuza Regis.
They redrew his clothes in that pic.
MagnaderAlpha
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I'd actually say Toriyama's strengths are DIRECTING cutscenes and flow of the game(when he isn't the writer of that game). Story and scenario, as they are, aren't his strengths. Storytelling is probably one of his flaws. And it don't help that he was paired with Watanabe during the FFXIII trilogy.
If he's up for the task, we'd all love to have him. I said before, there seems to be a shortage of "great" directors at Square. The only ones there who have been proven to handle a big scale FF project are Kitase and Itou(who is MIA). Sakaguchi's gone(he was probably one of the best leaders there). Tokita seems reluctant try(and given what his games have become, would we want him to?). Who else? Toriyama's only good if he's kept in check(which would defeat to purpose of having him as a "leader" of someone has to constantly "lead" him). Tabata, after this, will probably fizzle out and solely work on smaller projects(mainly his Type-series).
I do. Had they put him in charge instead of Tabata, we'd be already on FFXV-4 by now.
What game will he steal all his ideas from this time?
I want Nomura for FF16.... He's a perfectionist, but the only reason why Versus-13/15 took forever to begin with was because he only had like 10 people working on the game until it became 15, but at that point he was moved out so he could go make Kingdom Hearts 3. If KH3 is ending the Xheranort Saga, and FF7:re should be out a year or two after 15, does that mean he will have time to make 16 or 17 afterwards?
And it looks like the next title will be a fight between Agnis and the one Ace looking character in the end trailer from type-0. I feel like right now everyone in the company are making tech demo's pitching their ideas to the public hoping their trailers/concept is cool enough to warrant it's own game. I'm leading towards Agnis because I feel like that is the route Final Fantasy should be taking. The one Ace looking character would mean that they would have the same combat director, and the controls/combat in Type Zero was AWFUL. It has a ton of promise, but I really don't want to see anyone take that risk, especially with the form change shown I'm just trying to imagine the implications of how that would translate into combat (KH form-like transformations or get lost.)
And it looks like the next title will be a fight between Agnis and the one Ace looking character in the end trailer from type-0. I feel like right now everyone in the company are making tech demo's pitching their ideas to the public hoping their trailers/concept is cool enough to warrant it's own game. I'm leading towards Agnis because I feel like that is the route Final Fantasy should be taking. The one Ace looking character would mean that they would have the same combat director, and the controls/combat in Type Zero was AWFUL. It has a ton of promise, but I really don't want to see anyone take that risk, especially with the form change shown I'm just trying to imagine the implications of how that would translate into combat (KH form-like transformations or get lost.)
That's not why he was moved. KH3 already had a director who is still in that role.
Yeah, Tai Y is still there and he made the best KH.
TheGreatLugia
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Do we actually know who it was that decided to switch Kingdom Hearts III to Unreal Engine 4? I know a month or two before the switch, Nomura was talking about how issues with Luminous were stalling the game's development. I'm curious if the decision came from him, Yasue, or a higher up at Square.
.Nah, let him finish VIIR, then move he and Team Osaka on a new IP.
They need one (to gear up for the eventual transition to next-gen, and honestly it would be ridiculous if we get to FFXX, and Team Osaka is too talented to only do KH games)), and Nomura's their best shot at it.
It's a fast and efficient team, and with UE4 they could make it in a reasonable amount of time.
Plus, it would give Nomura the same freedom he had during his Versus period.
I would love to see a Matsuno-helmed FFXVI. Unfortunately, I don't think that would have a development cycle under a decade either.
Toriyama should not be involved in a directorial role. I liked X-2 for the battle system and hated it for everything he was in charge of. The XIII "saga" was similar (though I liked those games much, much less).
Toriyama should not be involved in a directorial role. I liked X-2 for the battle system and hated it for everything he was in charge of. The XIII "saga" was similar (though I liked those games much, much less).
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