Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Unknown One
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What the hell is Ardyn anyways?
About that: when the credit roll appears (the one with the photos on the left) why did he skip it everytime? Maybe there are bits of plots there.
Reminds me of Dragon's Dogma's ending, which was just fucking amazing.
If the romance is written poorly (typical of JRPG to be honest), then the scene would only feel shoehorned in, not sweet.
RubberJohnny
Banned
This is a really bad idea because you're helping Ardyn throughout the game unaware that he becomes the final villain and then you're spoiling that from Chapter 0.
SaniOYOYOY
Member
This ending will most definitely be widely spoiled, people will want to make meme photoshops of the picture and share it with the world.
I can't wait for the Lightning one.
Yeah, it was weird. I guess he didn't care about the game that much. It was clearly there to make the pre-titanic ending scene more impactful, with you remembering your journey through the photos. It's such a fitting ending for a roadtrip story, imo. If Stand by Me played during the credits, sheeeit.
He dies too and marries Luna in the afterlife.
yeah what's his motivation? to be another god wanna be villian?
I don't really agree with this "everyone dies" thing. Didn't get that impression at all. But maybe I missed something.
We really don't have context for this, but he talks about his revenge in the final battle. Noctis couldn't have done anything for him if his plan was already at work during Kingsglaive, so it must be revenge on the Lucian line. For what, we'll have to play to see, or wait a few days for more spoilers, I guess, but I think I'll just experience the second half of the game by myself, watching the entire ending was more than enough
We really don't have context for this, but he talks about his revenge in the final battle. Noctis couldn't have done anything for him if his plan was already at work during Kingsglaive, so it must be revenge on the Lucian line. For what, we'll have to play to see, or wait a few days for more spoilers, I guess, but I think I'll just experience the second half of the game by myself, watching the entire ending was more than enough
We still have to understand that. Will the game clearly explain his motivations or not? There are a lot of missing details here mostly because we have just seen the beginning chapters, the ending and few screenshots here and there.
BossDarkseid
Member
Ok with the FF theme I actually quite like that ending scene.
Those musical cues still work so well
Those musical cues still work so well
RubberJohnny
Banned
Parkour Ifrit looks ridiculous
Yabberwocky
Member
Ignis, Gladio, and Prompto died, right, as they were with Regis/Noctis/KotR vs. Ardyn? I'm surprised there wasn't some kind of cutaway to them fighting/sacrificing themselves with the Iron Giants as Noctis was on the throne being stabbed by the kings. The three of them are with you for the entire game, and the whole game is built and advertised on the brotherhood between the four men. (You know, one of the reasons we didn't get a permanent female party member, cough-cough.) The Omen trailer concerns what would happen if the trio weren't around to support Noctis. I don't mind them dying - I quite like it, in fact - but to have the three of them die offscreen in an almost nondescript manner seems like a bizarrely wasted opportunity, especially considering the player punch it could have had. All go down together, etc. I'm genuinely a bit baffled how it was handled, I really hadn't thought they'd died at first.
The execution of the ending doesn't do a lot for me, but I will say that my favorite imagery from the game is Noctis on the throne being stabbed by the kings, with Regis at the end. Brutal. Annnnnnd then the ending turns into Lightning Returns MK. II, sigh.
I'm usually quite understanding about the necessary evil of product placement, but it's quite hilariously predominant in two of the game's big final scenes. It ruins the moment a bit. I really do need product placement Coleman edits for the endings of the other FF games.
The execution of the ending doesn't do a lot for me, but I will say that my favorite imagery from the game is Noctis on the throne being stabbed by the kings, with Regis at the end. Brutal. Annnnnnd then the ending turns into Lightning Returns MK. II, sigh.
I'm usually quite understanding about the necessary evil of product placement, but it's quite hilariously predominant in two of the game's big final scenes. It ruins the moment a bit. I really do need product placement Coleman edits for the endings of the other FF games.
What's up with the textures in some of those gifs? the city looks half-assed.
Unknown One
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Kind of funny how people expect one of the broes to die, not much expect everybody dying.
Speaking of which, does anyone know what happens to Cor? Did he die offscreen during the timeskip, like Chico? Him being the one of the only ones to survive the events of the game would be hilarious.
Of course he is, it's the most beloved movie in the world.
Mister Megative
Banned
Ardyn is final boss. Pretty epic 1v1 with Noctis in the ruined streets/skies of Insomnia. Music is fucking god tier. Everyone dies.
Mister Megative
Banned
I can 100% confirm Ramuh is not scripted during the final battle. Not sure if the summon itself is scripted, but that same reviewer I mentioned pages ago got Leviathan.
You can load your save after the final boss and "go back in time" to do end-game stuff. You keep everything, and even get the Kingsglaive costumes for the younger party.
Well, Crisis Core wasn't really up to him, but yeah, he certainly does.
Thank you. Thats awesome, I was worried about not having an option for this
DiipuSurotu
Banned
yoooooooooo
The flip he does is impressive, but I still don't know why he does it.
Mister Megative
Banned
From what I've been told you can go back in time pretty much at any point after chapter 8 or 9, can't remember which one.
Sure, while Zack's ultimate fate wasn't in question, I think the way it was handled in particular did foreshadow Tabata's approach to conclusions of his future serious RPGs. Controlling Zack as he fights a battle which cannot be won and seeing the DMW glitch out bit by bit as he is overwhelmed and eventually killed is definitely a very Tabata moment in Crisis Core.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
These spoilers continue to excited me.
I'm biased because I've wanted this game since I was 16, but I firmly believe this will be one of my favorite games of all time. This is based on what I have played (two mediocre demos with tons of potential), what I've seen, and the anticipation.
Like all FF games it will be polarizing for whatever reasons, but I've never been so excited for a mainline FF game since FFX.
Hell yeah it was. It was over done, flashy, and anime as fuck. Type-0 was also incredibly bombastic.
For what it's worth, he is really good at making the final battles grandiose.
I'm biased because I've wanted this game since I was 16, but I firmly believe this will be one of my favorite games of all time. This is based on what I have played (two mediocre demos with tons of potential), what I've seen, and the anticipation.
Like all FF games it will be polarizing for whatever reasons, but I've never been so excited for a mainline FF game since FFX.
Hell yeah it was. It was over done, flashy, and anime as fuck. Type-0 was also incredibly bombastic.
For what it's worth, he is really good at making the final battles grandiose.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
FFXV's conclusion in a nutshell.
Everyone dies.
Everyone dies.
AlexFlame116
Member
I'm going to be in the vocal minority for this but I now believe that once Ardyn was defeated, the timeline/history changed. It's no longer the dystopian society that Ardyn created but rather the good future where the Lucis line no longer has to suffer from the effects of ring magic. Ardyn was also basically erased from history at the end I think.
So in a way it's like the ending to Ocarina of Time where there are now two (three) timelines. And the picture? Since Noctis was in possession of it when he died, it stayed with him. So it also went with him to this new timeline.
Note this is just my interpretation! Don't kill me!
So in a way it's like the ending to Ocarina of Time where there are now two (three) timelines. And the picture? Since Noctis was in possession of it when he died, it stayed with him. So it also went with him to this new timeline.
Note this is just my interpretation! Don't kill me!
Mister Megative
Banned
A few more things from my reviewer friend:
Ardyn is a great villain
Game has good level of challenge throughout
Reviewer had high hopes, they were met (game is really good)
You can go back to do optional stuff from chapter 9 on
Linearity after chapter 8 isn't bad at all, just different. Besides, you can go back after chapter 9.
At least one side quest only unlocks after you clear the game
Iedolas isn't in the game much, heavy focus on Ardyn
Appears to be a bunch of optional bosses. There are also optional dungeons, dunno how many.
Ardyn is a great villain
Game has good level of challenge throughout
Reviewer had high hopes, they were met (game is really good)
You can go back to do optional stuff from chapter 9 on
Linearity after chapter 8 isn't bad at all, just different. Besides, you can go back after chapter 9.
At least one side quest only unlocks after you clear the game
Iedolas isn't in the game much, heavy focus on Ardyn
Appears to be a bunch of optional bosses. There are also optional dungeons, dunno how many.
This makes me really happy.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
You said this reviewer friend was well known and respected, correct? By that, do you mean they make reviews for a well known site like IGN, Gamespot, etc.?
BossDarkseid
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Interpretations are cool
My friend and I both have had many Dark Souls lore discussions over the years with each of us having different theories or opinions on how X affects Y and so on. Ocarina of Time is actually a decent comparison because I think at the end of that there is...actually I can't remember but just multiple timelines hosannainexcelsis
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That was probably the best part of Crisis Core.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
Post game side quest after clearing game? Potential for secret ending? Potential for FFXV-2: Stella's Return?
Kagari don't kill me
I'm just excited for all the optional content, bosses, dungeons etc. Eos sounds like a true Final Fantasy world that demands to be explored.
KZXcellent
Member
If the game comes out and this interpretation can be entertained and make sense then I'll be very happy. I like the idea of it.
I personally feel they're dead since lolTabata
I suppose he's also a fan of Victor Hugo.
BossDarkseid
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It's be kind of nuts if this was like Type 0 (apparently) and warrants a 2nd playthrough with some extra scenes or something that provide a new aspect to the story. DOesn't sound like it needs it though.
Crisis core was the only one of those i thought he did that well. Type 0 didn't give you enough time to care about class zero, third birthday was enough of a joke that the ending had no impact and this game...borrows so heavily from one of my favorite movies of all time that i can't not think about it how weird it is.
Given his collaborators' history with time travel plots, it's for the best.
Or maybe the woman we see marrying Noctis is actually the consciousness of the prime timeline's child Luna (at age 10 or so) transferred into the body of the alternate timeline's adult Luna, after aiding her counterpart's suicide to preserve the integrity of the timestream through becoming a paradoxical consciousness to counterbalance the flow of temporal chaos created by the ring's removal from the axis of history.