was the change to tabata needed then?
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Oh wow, that second half is something else. I lost track of the chapters as they fly by really fast, and turns out I'm in chapter 13.
Super rough stuff. There's some good ideas and cool moments in there but it's really clumsy. People mentioned Type-0 similarities and it kind of feels like the last act from that game where it was evident they ran out of time and had to wrap up everything very quickly so everything just kind of happens. Lots of stuff happening off screen, exposition out of nowhere... It's not completely uninteresting but boy is it random. You also see flashes of what could have been and it makes me a little bit sad, can't shake it out.
Sounds like I'm really negative but I still find the game enjoyable. It feels very very rushed and undercooked from a story perspective, though. The amount of last minute rewrites and cut content must have been gigantic.
Super rough stuff. There's some good ideas and cool moments in there but it's really clumsy. People mentioned Type-0 similarities and it kind of feels like the last act from that game where it was evident they ran out of time and had to wrap up everything very quickly so everything just kind of happens. Lots of stuff happening off screen, exposition out of nowhere... It's not completely uninteresting but boy is it random. You also see flashes of what could have been and it makes me a little bit sad, can't shake it out.
Sounds like I'm really negative but I still find the game enjoyable. It feels very very rushed and undercooked from a story perspective, though. The amount of last minute rewrites and cut content must have been gigantic.
Strongly recommend that everyone who has finished the game check this out: https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXV/comments/5ezdx9/spoilers_secret_dungeon_found_and_completed/
Movalpolos
Banned
Yeah you're at the point in the game that almost broke me.
Chapter 13 is much longer than it needs to be.
Solid Sora
Member
I went there yesterday but couldn't open the door. Maybe it requires you to finish all the other dungeons first?
Movalpolos
Banned
We don't know much about Versus besides speculation and what we personally feel about the base concepts though, not their actual forms nor their implementation, or how the "Versus saga" would have even played out.
Saying the plot as we got it is how Versus would have gone is a bridge too far i think. We only have some elements carried over that have survived or are similar to what we saw in those days at this point. Its a shadow of a lot of muddled concepts and ideas
In some ways it reminds of XIIIs development issues. Wasn't it true that they hadn't even come up with a real battle system until they had to ship that demo? Or perhaps XIV before the revamp though I only know a little of that mess.
I suppose it's fitting since XV is something of a remnant from those days. I'd like to say that with it finally put to bed they can move forward, but who can say?
I think the best case scenario is for them to move on wholesale to a new idea, that's just my opinion though
https://twitter.com/bkaREV/status/802470815413440512
Why did I come to this thread
Dude wtf, 2 days man.
yeah lol did you see this glitch somebody posted
https://twitter.com/khiethy/status/802687241491361792
I think we've all had enough of a fantasy based on feedback. Take the lumps and move on guys
I'm sure you can do better next time
in what way?
NoctisVsStar
Member
It's hard to fix such issues when iedolas dies offscreen and let me not get started on Ravus or Regis who's practically nonexistent
True but Tabata said mighty high words saying his goal is to surpass FFVII so there is a chance he might not let it end like this.I think we've all had enough of a fantasy based on feedback. Take the lumps and move on guys
I'm sure you can do better next time
Some are saying that this last one is all platforming and puzzles with no boss or anything, which would be a bit of a bummer if true.
No I completely agree and I think we can now move forward and put this behind us. Just have to hope XVI is a lot smoother of a production.
Solid Sora
Member
hmmm interesting, will try it tonight.
Deamons have the same name as Cie'th in the Japanese version.... so...
Following on from how the story was retrofitted from Versus XIII, it wouldn't have been a stretch for him to be a Cie'th in a version of the game that was tied to the FNC mythos.
Really? I had no idea, that was a lucky coincidence.
Nobody is going to 'surpass' FF7 with this kind of thing, i think that is something they can't even begin to address
If we even know what Versus's version of cieth even were to begin with, if they existed. They were not going to necessarily be anywhere near similar to 13's Cieth, as Type 0's lcie were not close to those concepts either
NoctisVsStar
Member
Noctis deserved better
i found this from nomura about the potential sequels about xv
Obviously we haven't decided yet. We don't have any concrete plan for a future sequel of FFXV, it would be good if we could do that but we can't announce it or say anything into detail for the moment.
Tetsuya Nomura
Obviously we haven't decided yet. We don't have any concrete plan for a future sequel of FFXV, it would be good if we could do that but we can't announce it or say anything into detail for the moment.
Tetsuya Nomura
paolo11
Member
When was this?
I think it wasn't going to happen the second they decided to repurpose the game under a new name to start.
They should have left those concepts in their server room or whatever
One of the leakers from 4chan said the 3 games of Versus were as follow:
1st one is saving Stella from the empire
2nd one is reclaiming your throne
3rd one is fighting the gods
what leakers? I doubt they would know about nonexistent versus games not even created yet
NoctisVsStar
Member
That leak got a lot of stuff right, outside a few stuff
which leak was it?? there are always supposed leaks from 4ch, but only some end up being right
NoctisVsStar
Member
I believe that's the one yes
Movalpolos
Banned
Not the same ability but uhhh, yikes, lol. I have run into some decent bugs though. Got stuck in a falling animation after a battle once.
Agreed. You should see his (Noctis) face when Bahamut told him his fate is to die in order to save the world.
How can someone have the heart to kill off the best main protagonist in the history of FF? His bros aren't helping either. Prompto should at least act like what Tidus did to Yuna ie 'there's gotta be another way, let's find another way.'
or gave then back to nomura
I think it was the second who added to the first leak and clarified that Ifrit isn't the final boss.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Noctis died for the greater good.. to return the light to FF.
I want to play the game again but I'm dreading ch.13 I'll probably focus on the post game goods for now.
Solid Sora
Member
This sentence actually summarizes my thoughts about the game. It's not the masterpiece I hoped for, but it made me optimistic about the future of the series in a way I never felt in years.
Infrit not being final boss is pretty easy though
I dont think the concept should have been continued in general.
Movalpolos
Banned
Suddenly this game becomes more interesting when applied to meta commentary of the development hell it went through.
not contunied use the charachters in other games like kingdom hearts i mean there already charachter in unchained x that almost like stella
not contunied use the charachters in other games like kingdom hearts i mean there already charachter in unchained x that almost like stella
I don't know how she is almost like Stella, at least visually.
Flip the coloring, change the bangs to side bangs, and it is Stella in a nutshell. Even her fierce but delicate personality kind of reflects what we originally knew of Stella back in the Versus XIII days.
well that and they are outsourcing for help
orthodoxy1095
Banned
When you go back to exploring post-story completion are the bros gone?
Nope.