ironically she may have just been added due to the backlash against no party members. To think she was once just a sub boss
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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ironically she may have just been added due to the backlash against no party members. To think she was once just a sub boss
Crossing Eden
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Again he straight up explains why he doesn't just kill Noctis before he gets the power of the crystal. He straight up activated the plague while Noctis was asleep and is the sole cause for them being in the modern world considering her mass produced daemons.
I mean they explained his motivation well I just don't think he has the depth to also want to do more good for the world based on his body language and appearance at the end. Granted, it would be a good idea to want to fix the world while seeking redemption but his redemption solely included killing Noctis with or without the daemons being destroyed.
Everything Ardyn does is for the sake of revenge against the royal family. I legitimately don't think he cared if the plague ruined the world or not since he let it happen for 10 years while the only person who could stop it was asleep.
Impulsor
Member
So two things.
After Kingsglaive I kinda expected a scene with the ancient kings of lucis when Noctis finally put the ring on. It was quite lame.
And at the end, before suiciding, he leaves his bros at the door and a lot of demons appear. Noctis tells tjem that "I leave it in your hands" or something like that.
But later they appear in the scene of the beyond, where Noctis finally destroys Ardyn or whatever.
Are they dead too? I sort of thought they werent.
And about Ardyn and the Lucis line.
I assume the Crystal grants power to every king in the Lucis line, but eventually the crystal chose one as the chosen. The chosen one is Noctis and as the profecy says, he has to die to bring back the light to the world. His father and Luna are completely aware of this from the beginning and that's why regis is always so sad around Noctis.
Ardyn was a Lucis that was denied his throne? Did he ever reign?, but he was deemed unworthy by the crystal because of the scourge and all the darkness he accumulated to save the people and he wants revenge, he wants the crystal destroyed, the darkness to prevail and the lucis line gone? I need some clarifications with this maybe.
After Kingsglaive I kinda expected a scene with the ancient kings of lucis when Noctis finally put the ring on. It was quite lame.
And at the end, before suiciding, he leaves his bros at the door and a lot of demons appear. Noctis tells tjem that "I leave it in your hands" or something like that.
But later they appear in the scene of the beyond, where Noctis finally destroys Ardyn or whatever.
Are they dead too? I sort of thought they werent.
And about Ardyn and the Lucis line.
I assume the Crystal grants power to every king in the Lucis line, but eventually the crystal chose one as the chosen. The chosen one is Noctis and as the profecy says, he has to die to bring back the light to the world. His father and Luna are completely aware of this from the beginning and that's why regis is always so sad around Noctis.
Ardyn was a Lucis that was denied his throne? Did he ever reign?, but he was deemed unworthy by the crystal because of the scourge and all the darkness he accumulated to save the people and he wants revenge, he wants the crystal destroyed, the darkness to prevail and the lucis line gone? I need some clarifications with this maybe.
ULTROS!
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The ending was so... Final Fantasy. ;_;
I also liked the revised logo where it included older Noctis lol.
Also, what the hell happened to Iedolas. He just... Disappeared.
I also liked the revised logo where it included older Noctis lol.
Also, what the hell happened to Iedolas. He just... Disappeared.
Didn't you read the notes in the dungeon? The same thing that happened to all those other people who vanished.
ULTROS!
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Yup. Now I remember. Though that part was well... Strange like it just happened at an instant.
Not to mention Chapter 13 is strange.
DarkLordMalik
Member
The whole second half just looks like -cut-cut-cut-cut.
Like they had a lot of material but just not enough time to create gameplay segments around it and they just cut it all.
So did you enjoy the theme song along with the scene then?
Impulsor
Member
You even go inside the throne room, where Iedolas' garments are on the throne, empty.
When Prompto reveals he is an MT.
ULTROS!
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I enjoyed it. It was so FF.
I thought that part was bad. The entire Chapter 13 was bad. It just happened because reasons. There's almost no backstory for the transformation of people, etc. But at least we know who Ardyn is.
And lol at Ifrit = Ardyn though. Although Ifrit kinda popped out of nowhere?
Also I'd like to clarify (got this from the wiki):
So Ardyn was one of the Chosen ones, but in the end the Crystal chose another one who was an "Izunia" then that new Chosen one (aka the lineage of Noctis) became a Lucis Caelum?
SkylineRKR
Member
I didn't realize that one enemy was Ledolas until he died.
Its weird that the bros appear in the afterlife. Moments after the Iron Giants spawn the curse is lifted, and he even says he'll leave it (probably the well being of Eos) into their hands. Its weird that they die after such a cliche.
About Ardyn sounds about right, he's being cast aside and being denied by the Astrals after he was imbued with Darkness so they chose another one. But this Izunia fucked him as well, I think he was being branded a demon by him in particular? It doesn't sound like this Izunia did it in a good way, more like he stole Ardyn's spot. Izunia also means weasel.
Ardyn in turn stole his name and fucked his legacy up, lol.
Its weird that the bros appear in the afterlife. Moments after the Iron Giants spawn the curse is lifted, and he even says he'll leave it (probably the well being of Eos) into their hands. Its weird that they die after such a cliche.
About Ardyn sounds about right, he's being cast aside and being denied by the Astrals after he was imbued with Darkness so they chose another one. But this Izunia fucked him as well, I think he was being branded a demon by him in particular? It doesn't sound like this Izunia did it in a good way, more like he stole Ardyn's spot. Izunia also means weasel.
Ardyn in turn stole his name and fucked his legacy up, lol.
Just finished, so many things just felt so sudden, maybe I missed some cutscenes where things are alluded to?
Prompto being an MT
Ravus' 1st "death"
The bad guys basically being "Oh, they're all turned into demons now!"
I'm guessing the DLC will be Prompto getting captured, Ignis going blind, and Glad doing whatever he did when he went off and got that forehead scar.
Prompto being an MT
Ravus' 1st "death"
The bad guys basically being "Oh, they're all turned into demons now!"
I'm guessing the DLC will be Prompto getting captured, Ignis going blind, and Glad doing whatever he did when he went off and got that forehead scar.
You even fight against him (in his demon form) shortly before the fight against Ravus. It's the same demon that you had to escape from via elevator during the Noctis solo part where you don't have all of your powers.
ULTROS!
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Whatever happened to Verstael? Did he just... Disappear from the game?
At least Nyx was there in the end stage in some form lol.
Dissappearing requires that someone had some kind of significance to the story. lol
He had one line in the entire game... xd
ULTROS!
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I don't even remember him appearing in the game... I know he was in Kingsglaive though.
Or was he just that incredibly sidelined lol.
He spoke briefly in the cutscene where he announced Ravus would have control of the army. So a couple of lines.
SkylineRKR
Member
I am fairly certain about that. Those deliberate plotholes were too obvious.
SkylineRKR
Member
I hope this is mere coincidence and not a trend. Basically, this and MGSV were my 2 top choices for this gen way back. And both underdelivered in actual storytelling and character building. Both saw huge development issues, so lets hope its just that.
Is there a separate art book or is it just the strategy guide?
It's like as not gonna be a trend. Open world experiences are incredibly hard to tell a consistent narrative in. It's something tabletop RPGs have struggled with for a long time.
ULTROS!
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FFXVI shouldn't attempt an open world. I'm fine with towns as big as Lestallum and field areas as big as say... The Calm Lands of FFX.
Though what they can lift from FFXV are the dungeon designs and strong characterizations.
Though what they can lift from FFXV are the dungeon designs and strong characterizations.
It's a seperate one and right now only available if you buy the UCE. I guess there'll be a seperate ( hopefully with even more concept art) one at some point though. I'd really love to have a more in depth look in the design changes over the years.
Love seeing those old versus XIII concepts (https://twitter.com/FinalXV/status/804373413456445444)
Does anyone know when the ultimania guides come out in Japan?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Nomura wanted trilogy and it is clear from just playing the game that part 1 - niflheim invasion and escape part 2 - lucis region leading to altissia part 3 - solheim region leading to final at insomnia
This could have taken years of development.
We don't know anything about the Versus or original 15 plot outside of certain basic things we saw in the trailers.
Again, its very extreme to say you can map the entire plot of whatever sequence of games Nomura may have wanted to do based on this severely compromised final result without actually knowing anything about the final scenario Nomura and Nojima wrote. At most we can say the concepts could have possibly led to certain outcomes.
As far i can tell, there are only bits and pieces of much in the game as it stands now, with the meat of the game being the actual gameplay segments.
Kain can't be topped.
Lol Kain got topped by Estinien already, the same character with better motivations then being the loser in a love triangle and actual character outside of it
I think they should have a world similar to XII again. There was a lot of great locations in that game that were a very distinctive from each other.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Did you see the post-credits cutscene? They dead.
Via Purifico
Banned
I am hearing some bullshit on 4chan about them revisiting the world of XV with another game with Nomura's vision lol. Sounds like total bullshit, then again we thought the leaked plot details and summons were bullshit too.
I really like to think Square isn't that stupid and would leave it behind once DLC support ends and they potentially drop a PC port.
I really like to think Square isn't that stupid and would leave it behind once DLC support ends and they potentially drop a PC port.
SkylineRKR
Member
We'll probably get DLC thats just the fight against the Iron Giants, and they deliberately lose to join Noctis.
Wait what? Images of them were in the lifestream but that could have been their 'spirits' or whatever.
its nonsense, don't entertain it
Via Purifico
Banned
Me entertaining it would have been posting that garbage here. I don't believe it either but it's funny to think about.
On another note after playing it the story seems to be the only issue at least for me anyway. I don't quite get the car complaints other than if you want to drive at your own pace during manual but on auto I like taking in the sights.
SkylineRKR
Member
Is Somnus gone by the way, once you beat the game?
Design wise? Not even.
Uh XIV Dragoons are all visually based on Kain fam
Nobody noticed but Somnus spoiled this game ten years ago.
Deus dormit
Et liberi ignem faciunt
Numquam extinguunt
Ne expergisci possit
Omnia dividit
Tragedia coram
Amandum quae
Et nocte perpetua
In desperatione
Auroram videre potest
Mane tempus expergiscendi.
God sleeps
And children are able to light a flame
They never extinguish
But he will never awake
Separate everything,
This tragedy destroys,
every beloved thing.
And in this endless night,
In despair
He may see the dawn
That will awake him in the next morning
Deus dormit
Et liberi ignem faciunt
Numquam extinguunt
Ne expergisci possit
Omnia dividit
Tragedia coram
Amandum quae
Et nocte perpetua
In desperatione
Auroram videre potest
Mane tempus expergiscendi.
God sleeps
And children are able to light a flame
They never extinguish
But he will never awake
Separate everything,
This tragedy destroys,
every beloved thing.
And in this endless night,
In despair
He may see the dawn
That will awake him in the next morning
its been years, maybe they just never entertained such a far out possibility?
Is this the backstory to KH xD
Solid Sora
Member
He said that he was erased from history.
Wat.
Nomura sure loves his edgelord shit.
This tragedy destroys,
every beloved thing.
Everyone dies!
And in this endless night,
In despair
He may see the dawn
That will awake him in the next morning
10 years of endless night. Noctics saw the dawn in the afterlife I guess.
SkylineRKR
Member
Unless he was erased from history. I saw the scene again and he was the first Lucis Caelum and a Healer who was ready to be chosen, but a jealous King who wasn't chosen fucked him over. That king can't have been a Lucis Caelum, as that was Ardyn's name. He took it.
So the whole line was built on a lie. Noctis isn't from the same blood, but does carry his name.
Yeah, he does. That's like his thing
SkylineRKR
Member
Game goes down the shitter from there.