Iris and Noctis have an amazing post-link animation. She hits him on the head during the attack and afterwards he starts rubbing it and looking at her like "wtf?" And she does the sorry sorry motion and he does an "oh you" pat on the head. I saved a video of it, will try to gif it tomorrow night.
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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orthodoxy1095
Banned
In Japanese Noct said he loved them.
Shouta
Member
Noctis' direct words in the JP version are "omaera suki dawa" (as I recall, anyway) which can be translated directly as "I love you guys." I find the English version to be better though. It conveys the same emotions that are there in the JP version while adding a little more.
Lights and Waves
Member
What?! Why did they change that? Do they think American men are that insecure, that they'd freak out over him saying that?
Lights and Waves
Member
I'm sure this game will be a lot of fun in a year, once they've patched a lot of the issues and hopefully fleshed it out with some DLC.
Wow I really regret the hours I put into this with that ending. Noct and Luna were in love? Noct cared for his dad? We were supposed to know who all those blue ghost people were?
So many questions.
Ardyn was the endgame?! Just normal human Ardyn!? Zipping around what I'm assuming was the city... but he gets swords too!? With the worst battle mechanic in the world, can't even tell if we're hitting each other or not... Someone help me. I didn't even have to heal to beat him. SOMEONE HELP, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN. What is FF anymore!? I can't believe how bad that was.
Bring back Lightning. Give Lightning and Aranea their own game.
OH GOD Lightning Returns was more fun. SOMEONE HELP.
So many questions.
Ardyn was the endgame?! Just normal human Ardyn!? Zipping around what I'm assuming was the city... but he gets swords too!? With the worst battle mechanic in the world, can't even tell if we're hitting each other or not... Someone help me. I didn't even have to heal to beat him. SOMEONE HELP, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN. What is FF anymore!? I can't believe how bad that was.
Bring back Lightning. Give Lightning and Aranea their own game.
OH GOD Lightning Returns was more fun. SOMEONE HELP.
I like the change, its more subtle and goes more with how the west would phrase it with a group of friends or brothers. It gives the same meaning.
I really hope they can flesh out the story with DLC. The game from chapter 1-9 was awesome.
I think this is the heaviest I have felt attached to a set of FF characters since FFIX.
The Ardyn fight itself wasnt that bad. But I would have perfered some sort of darkness monstrosity.
I think this is the heaviest I have felt attached to a set of FF characters since FFIX.
The Ardyn fight itself wasnt that bad. But I would have perfered some sort of darkness monstrosity.
The ghost people were the old kings of Lucis. Did you not watch Kingsglaive?
DarkLordMalik
Member
The part about the ending bit changing is false. I played the English dub and had the full scene play out with Noctis standing.
I have no idea how it actually changes.
I have no idea how it actually changes.
That's my guess. Toxic masculinity at its worst.
Lights and Waves
Member
Lame.
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Anyone else really disappointed by the summons in this game?
1. We only had one true trail, that was with Titan. They were too lazy to make ones for Ramuh, Shiva, Carbuncle, Bahamut.
2. Ifrit fight was decent.
3. Gentiana as Shiva was so cheesy. If Ardyn was secretly Ifrit now THAT would have been interesting.
4. The way you get to use the summons. I don't like it being random, I don't like having to hold L2 for so long.
I feel like they planned to have a trial for every summon but just ran out of time.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
It's not really false. That seems to be how it was pre-patch.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Wait, did I miss something key in the cutscenes after fighting on top of the moving train, where there's this huge buildup of creatures that swarms it, and then it just cuts and your sitting on a train platform. I have to have missed the point of that scene.
Mattakuevan
Member
You do realize suggesting that he would have needed to watch Kingsglaive is part of the problem, right?
Levi comes out and kills them
DarkLordMalik
Member
I played it without day 1 patch. The real one.
AFAIK, the 8 GB one only added the Photo at the end with the full game time.
Maybe it is the comparison between unpatched vs. patched version, because then it would make sense.
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Oh. I must've looked down at the exact wrong moment or something, ha.
He also says "kings of lucis, come to me" and they come, and we even see his dad even turns into one and stabs him dead.
That was his dad? I thought it was a girl! They should have just used the regular king Regis model. I would have been much more emotionally invested.
I thought those big 3 looming giants were the kings of lucis. But then there's like a whole gang of dudes that start stabbing him...?
Mattakuevan
Member
Yeah, the kings of lucis are the 13 knights of the round, but its not explained well in game. Maybe a line or two at best.
Marmaladefire
Member
Yeah, his dad was the last one because he was hesitant, as a father and as the last king of Lucis.
Unrelated: I love suffering as much as the next youngish adult afflicted by the ills of post modern anxiety, but I'm pretty tired of just having everyone die at the end of Final Fantasy games. Is this Square's idea of a sequel safeguard? "We can't make a sequel if they're dead"
"NO WAIT. WE CAN." Who even takes over Lucius now? Do they become a democracy? Does Noctis have a 2nd cousin waiting in the wings?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Sounds like you need to watch Kingsglaive.
roflwaffles
Member
Just finished it.
I liked the game, I'd give it like 7/10 - but man the story just doesn't work. The ending was decent but I never had feels like I did in CC when Zack was killed.
There's just too many unearned moments and things they do offscreen/don't explain. Sad to say it, but the game should have had another year in development to flesh out the story because i don't really understand how I'm supposed to care about any of these characters when the game doesn't spend enough time building those relationships outside of the main 3 team members.
I liked the game, I'd give it like 7/10 - but man the story just doesn't work. The ending was decent but I never had feels like I did in CC when Zack was killed.
There's just too many unearned moments and things they do offscreen/don't explain. Sad to say it, but the game should have had another year in development to flesh out the story because i don't really understand how I'm supposed to care about any of these characters when the game doesn't spend enough time building those relationships outside of the main 3 team members.
I thought she was bottom tier, along with Gladio honestly. She was so monotone and deadpan the whole time, and as a Brit the plummy accent did NOT help (still not as bad as Ignis' tho, lol).
Shadow Ranger
Member
Damn, I played in Japanese and her voice in that is pretty trash, too! I was genuinely surprised! Both young and adult Luna had terrible sounding VA, personally.
There isn't really a lot there for a voice actor to work with.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Which is weird because when he sits on the throne, he says "I love you all. Luna, guys...", which isn't all that much different.
Which is why I'm not so sure "toxic masculinity" is why they changed it.
I think it's said/implied that when the Oracle heals they take the darkness into their own body.
Which is what Ardyn did. And I'm guessing is what made him so powerful and immortal once he was denied ascension.
What isn't really explained is why didn't Noctis and co not know this or show that they knew. Because even Luna's mother was an Oracle.
Yeah, I thought about it as I was typing that... but it's kind of the truth :V
The campaign of this game depressed me... and not because I was emotionally invested, but because it was underwhelming as hell... The amount of content that feels dijointed astounds me, as well as the stuff they have removed for DLC purposes.
Character motives go down the drain, the world isnt fleshed out at all, its just disappointing.
From the moment you go to Altissia everything starts to fuck up entirely. You go to this big city that we have been seeing so many years now, and there is NOTHING compelling to explore. There are no quests whatsoever, there is only that arena bullshit, you literally visit this whole city just for 1 mission. I honestly dont understand why they made it such a big place... they didnt utilize anything about the place. Its just walking, watching pretty graphics and thats it. Hell, Crow's Nest rest areas have more things to do than Altissia... you can at least play some kind of minigame there lol.
Then you hope into that god damned train and that is where the real shit begins... you see an entirely new and huge map and start thinking that you will now get to explore this new continent as well... bullshit. Have fun stopping at train stations. And all would be maybe ok if the story was any good, but no, its even worse. Character shifts all over the place, events that happen outside of the players view...
whatever.
The ending is spectacular, but i could never resonate with any of the characters to be emotionally invested about it.
Honestly I prefer the open world mindless questing than this mess of an excuse as a story.
Character motives go down the drain, the world isnt fleshed out at all, its just disappointing.
From the moment you go to Altissia everything starts to fuck up entirely. You go to this big city that we have been seeing so many years now, and there is NOTHING compelling to explore. There are no quests whatsoever, there is only that arena bullshit, you literally visit this whole city just for 1 mission. I honestly dont understand why they made it such a big place... they didnt utilize anything about the place. Its just walking, watching pretty graphics and thats it. Hell, Crow's Nest rest areas have more things to do than Altissia... you can at least play some kind of minigame there lol.
Then you hope into that god damned train and that is where the real shit begins... you see an entirely new and huge map and start thinking that you will now get to explore this new continent as well... bullshit. Have fun stopping at train stations. And all would be maybe ok if the story was any good, but no, its even worse. Character shifts all over the place, events that happen outside of the players view...
whatever.
The ending is spectacular, but i could never resonate with any of the characters to be emotionally invested about it.
Honestly I prefer the open world mindless questing than this mess of an excuse as a story.
The difference is that he didn't say it directly to them.
No that's not quite right.
Ardyn is not an Oracle.
The reason Luna's health diminished is because getting the Astrals to give the blessing the true king basically starts killing her.
You can play Justice monsters and do hunts in Altissia.
Also, can't you fight that painting? idk
Yea I was expecting him to say that, then he says "You guys are the best"...after hesitating for like 10-15 seconds.
Ahh okay, it's still weird.
Luna asking the Summons to give the King their blessing (for what again? I mean, itwasn't once mentionend that he couldn't controll the the Crystall without the Summons) and the Summons are like "okay, but for asking us we are gonna kill you!
Then what was he was he was doing when he was going around healing people before the jealous king betrayed him?
He was the one chosen by the Astrals, he absorbed the daemons inside him and ended the plague of stars for good..for which he became a hero. The jealous king didn't betray him, betray implies that he had his trust in the first place. But that long just got jealous and demonised him, took his name and also received the favour of the Astrals.Then what was he was he was doing when he was going around healing people before the jealous king betrayed him?
Oracle on the other hand keeps the plague at bay.
Fixed
"You think 10 years is a long time? It is nothing to me!"
Actually, yeah, what was I thinking.
Ardyn = Lucifer
Luna = Pope/Saint
Noctis = Jesus (literally dying to absolve the world of sins (daemons))
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The time skip is "we have to finish the game, throw whatever we have of imsomnia". I don't feel any commentary aside that is incredibly rushed.
I should be more critical, but fuck those character redesigns at the end and the costumes that accompany them are so damn fly.
WhoaIsThatMars
Member
The only character I found to look even remotely aged was Noctis. Everyone else just had facial hair