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Fire Emblem Community Thread | Together We Ride
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Arum is 16, Alm is 17.
She's fine with older female characters (along with Titania, look at the original PoR/RD art for Nailah, Petrine and Almedha), but with young girls she does have the tendency to default to unappealing 'early 00s anime' faces (the Cipher card of young Mist is objectively horrifying). Of course, considering that's the main mode FE's female cast exists in, it can become something of a problem.
Also, while her Azura isn't bad in terms of general facial proportions, the odd mouth somewhat ruins things.
I didn't like her Chrom either, but it also had the odd mouth thing going on as well.
Yeah, her shading and the way she draws clothing is really good.
Her designs might not always be perfect, but her artstyle is still one of my favorites in the series.
kuroneko0509
Member
feels like ages since new lucina art from kozaki. time to wait for asset rips
Or Kozaki was just trolling. Who knows.
Kozaki does troll all the time.
Technoweirdo
Member
Elise is in FE Warriors;
All is right with the world.
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There's still a lot to be answered, like:
Are there dragonstone users other than Tiki? I'm sure Corrin's considered a sword user. Feels a bit...odd to have only one.
Will we get a Thief? How about a Knight? There's enemy ones, sure...
Where's Sakura? Azura? Tharja?
When's Shadow Dragon, goddangit? >.>
Shadow Dragon healer rep: Maria because she has an onii-chan? Or Wrys because memes? Elice as the only one who's older than her brother?
What will the amiibos do? What will the Ike / MCorrin / Roy amiibos do?
So much to answer in only 4 weeks buuut for today I'm happy~
All is right with the world.
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There's still a lot to be answered, like:
Are there dragonstone users other than Tiki? I'm sure Corrin's considered a sword user. Feels a bit...odd to have only one.
Will we get a Thief? How about a Knight? There's enemy ones, sure...
Where's Sakura? Azura? Tharja?
When's Shadow Dragon, goddangit? >.>
Shadow Dragon healer rep: Maria because she has an onii-chan? Or Wrys because memes? Elice as the only one who's older than her brother?
What will the amiibos do? What will the Ike / MCorrin / Roy amiibos do?
So much to answer in only 4 weeks buuut for today I'm happy~
Sakura is going to be revealed in Famitsu next week. Probably Azura as well.
Shadow Dragon might get up to only three characters tbh.
Like wolfing down entire chunks of raw sugar.
- No, unless they add Hot Tiki as a skin.
- Nah. Maybe.
- In the game for sure.
- You'll get your Caeda and be happy. Maybe they'll add Minerva and the Pegasus sisters as well.
- If we get anymore healers i'll absolutely lose it. Elise/Sakura/Lissa is enough.
- Generic effects probably.
Technoweirdo
Member
Tiki and Caeda? Kinda sparse. Got a little more hope than that. Expecting at least 5. Awakening has 5 so far (6 counting FRobin, 7 counting the inevitable Tharja). Fates has 10 after Azura and Sakura, so 5 if you split the two into Birthright and Conquest. 5 for Shadow Dragon doesn't seem too big an ask.
D-Does meme mean Nowi?
Heroes has affected us all, hasn't it? >.>
Want Catria at least as a Shadow Dragon rep. Maybe throw in her sisters for her musou as a reference to the Triangle Attack.
Technoweirdo
Member
Maybe I've played too much Heroes, but Mercenaries w/ 7 move in FE12 is so weird. Infantry as a whole actually having movement is throwing me off. lol 6 Move for most of them unpromoted? Wha? The view being restricted to 11x8 tiles doesn't help matters. lol
Velouria seems fine to me. Selkie though I just don't think rocks the outfit well.
Velouria seems fine to me. Selkie though I just don't think rocks the outfit well.
theprodigy
Member
Maybe I've played too much Heroes, but Mercenaries w/ 7 move in FE12 is so weird. Infantry as a whole actually having movement is throwing me off. lol 6 Move for most of them unpromoted? Wha? The view being restricted to 11x8 tiles doesn't help matters. lol
Velouria seems fine to me. Selkie though I just don't think rocks the outfit well.
Don't forget the 10 move paladins/dracoknights!
theprodigy
Member
Technoweirdo
Member
FE12 playthrough update:
Found Normal mode too easy past the prologue where all the enemies are chumps even before factoring 7th Platoon's higher levels, so I decided to replay on Hard even if it meant dealing with same-turn reinforcements. The second-last part of prologue was actually nice in its implementation by encouraging aggression as you can't really tank your way through it far as I can tell, though I still dislike the idea of someone getting sniped by a 10-move Dracoknight on a whim; dislike the idea of getting sniped by an enemy you couldn't have possibly known was there.
What I dislike even more though is Cecil and her crap HP+Def. >:[ Foolishly thinking she could tank one measly barbarian in the last part of the prologue, she managed to get one-shot by him and his Silver Axe. Her Str and Spd's not even that good; doesn't justify her glassiness.
In fairness to her, it's not like there's anyone who won't lose 3/4ths of their health facing him -- he can do far more damage than any other enemy up to and including that point which screams him being unbalanced -- but ugh.
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In other news, calling that FEW 'leak' fake 'cuz no SD healer. :x
Found Normal mode too easy past the prologue where all the enemies are chumps even before factoring 7th Platoon's higher levels, so I decided to replay on Hard even if it meant dealing with same-turn reinforcements. The second-last part of prologue was actually nice in its implementation by encouraging aggression as you can't really tank your way through it far as I can tell, though I still dislike the idea of someone getting sniped by a 10-move Dracoknight on a whim; dislike the idea of getting sniped by an enemy you couldn't have possibly known was there.
What I dislike even more though is Cecil and her crap HP+Def. >:[ Foolishly thinking she could tank one measly barbarian in the last part of the prologue, she managed to get one-shot by him and his Silver Axe. Her Str and Spd's not even that good; doesn't justify her glassiness.
In fairness to her, it's not like there's anyone who won't lose 3/4ths of their health facing him -- he can do far more damage than any other enemy up to and including that point which screams him being unbalanced -- but ugh.
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In other news, calling that FEW 'leak' fake 'cuz no SD healer. :x
so with the leak roster.
I'm comparing them to see if they got SRs in their initial reveal in Cipher.
Chrom - Yes
Lucina - Yes
Cordelia - Yes
Robin - No
Fem Robin- No
Lissa - No
Frederick - No
Fates - Everybody Yes
Shadow Dragon - Everybody Yes
OCS - Can't do
Lyn and Celica - Yes.
Awakening is the oddball for character choices.
I'm comparing them to see if they got SRs in their initial reveal in Cipher.
Chrom - Yes
Lucina - Yes
Cordelia - Yes
Robin - No
Fem Robin- No
Lissa - No
Frederick - No
Fates - Everybody Yes
Shadow Dragon - Everybody Yes
OCS - Can't do
Lyn and Celica - Yes.
Awakening is the oddball for character choices.
Technoweirdo
Member
Out of all the Awakening characters besides those you already mentioned, who did get an SR on reveal? I'm gonna assume Tharja did, but what about the rest?
First six were Chrom, Lucina, Cordelia, Tharja, Gaius, Owain.
Technoweirdo
Member
Ah.
Still holding out for Odin/Owain appearing in some form just for the confusion he'd cause, though he'd also probably be great in his own right.
Tharja...I honestly want as DLC. Could have her go on a Warriors-style rampage for being forgotten by Robin. It'll be fun for everyone~
TheGamingBox
Banned
gah, my corrin nendoroid still hasnt arrived from ami ami, ofcourse the first time i order without ems it takes forever
Technoweirdo
Member
Thing I like about FE12:
Infinite-range Rescue!
Thing I don't like about FE12:
Scenarios where I'm forced to Rescue someone that was dumb enough to get surrounded at the start of the map. :x
Other things:
+ No dodge gods (without severe support abuse, at least).
+ Starspehre shards. Surprised there's nothing similar in Fates unless you're counting the 9,999-point battle / visitation rewards that you'll never get.
+ No weapon weight. I like my Pegasi not being weighed down by Iron Lances.
+ Leveling staff users doesn't take centuries
+ The prologue and paralogues have a nice pacing to them.
- Main chapters' pacing can be a bit over the place. Large maps with low enemy counts combined with villages Marth has to visit that are nowhere near the castle (sometimes not even near enemies) can make for some really bad downtimes.
- Game's ugly :x
Hey, those Fighters aren't supposed to be there. They're not even supposed to be Fighters!
*Quietly changes FE:W order to ship via EMS*
Infinite-range Rescue!
Thing I don't like about FE12:
Scenarios where I'm forced to Rescue someone that was dumb enough to get surrounded at the start of the map. :x
Other things:
+ No dodge gods (without severe support abuse, at least).
+ Starspehre shards. Surprised there's nothing similar in Fates unless you're counting the 9,999-point battle / visitation rewards that you'll never get.
+ No weapon weight. I like my Pegasi not being weighed down by Iron Lances.
+ Leveling staff users doesn't take centuries
+ The prologue and paralogues have a nice pacing to them.
- Main chapters' pacing can be a bit over the place. Large maps with low enemy counts combined with villages Marth has to visit that are nowhere near the castle (sometimes not even near enemies) can make for some really bad downtimes.
- Game's ugly :x
Turns out a couple of semi-functional debug menus are still left in FE8. They look just like the prototype's debug menus, though with the newer UI windows and some features missing. I love this kind of stuff, so cool.
Hey, those Fighters aren't supposed to be there. They're not even supposed to be Fighters!
*Quietly changes FE:W order to ship via EMS*
Thing I don't like about FE12:
- Kris
Thing I like about FE12:
- You can give Kris a monocle and afro
That doesn't sound like a positive...
It's gonna be a while before I can get around to playing FE12 though.
theprodigy
Member
That's definitely a positive dodgetanking is the easiest road to juggernauting.
Mounted units tend to have a better record at doing that than units built for dodgetanking.
Reducing the different ways classes can be played really doesn't sound like a good thing.
theprodigy
Member
That's because mounted units could already dodge enough anyway, classes are already actually differentiated well in FE12 because speed caps actually matter for once, making hits on both sides more reliable and reducing RNG is even better.
hey Technoweirdo you should pull Nephenee to give Elise Atk/Spd +2
I agree, but mitigating low-risk strategies that don't really require thought is definitely a good thing. Dodge-tanking only really worked well in FE6's HM, where you legit had to rely on it in certain chapters.
Sounds like a problem with the design of many mounted units than one of classes designed for dodgetanking.
I can't say I'm a fan of making hits more reliable all around, that takes away from one of the more interesting aspects of strategies in these games.
Dodgetanking could be balanced better in many games, but that's a unit balance problem. I don't think too many units should be able to get away with it, and especially not mounted ones.
With the hit or miss aspect being so important to how FE works, it makes sense for there to be some units that excel at dodging, and it also adds some variety in how maps can be approached. I don't think being openended like that could be a bad thing.
Sorry if I'm missing a joke or something, the screenshot is just from the prologue, which always has three enemy fighters.... as far as I'm aware, anyway.
That's true. Dodgetanking is handled wonderfully in EOV, so it really should come down to just, balancing units properly. Introducing skills around the concept (ie: something that increases evasion for one turn, but weakens counter-attacks) could be neat.
That would be cool. Something that could make a unit great at dodgetanking all around but at the cost of their offense sounds great. Swordmasters tended to be balanced for that in a way with Swords usually having poor ranged options.
I don't want to see the RNG element reduced with accuracy, but skills are a different story. That's something Fates did a great job with, turning skills into something more than the gimmick they were before it. It even had some cool ideas with dodgetanking, making it an option against specific weapons with the breaker skills. The types of skills Fates created(and hopefully the series continues with) could certainly allow some other creative ways for dodgetanking to be a real option but not an overpowered one.
Technoweirdo
Member
What's wrong with Kris? D:
Letting my precious Berserkers chop more things will always be a positive (even if they're enemy ones with 100 HIt Devil Axes).
It's not as if some units are made completely unviable through the dodge nerfs. Though a few can have miserable times early on against enemies who randomly have Silver weapons, you generally won't be tanking more than two enemies at a time. Pretty sure I've mostly tanked one at a time, in fact i.e. the game's balanced around its relatively sparse enemy counts.
My "Elise gets everything" policy has wallet-related limits.
I...must be misremembering things. >_____>
At the very least, I'm sure they're supposed to be heading west to Frelia though...
TheGamingBox
Banned
it actually arrived yesterday, though im not sure why it took so long, japan post didnt update tracking past the first day, so i dont when it made it to canada post
Well, obviously I can't talk about FE12's balance. I'll get to it one day.
But I always like to build dodgetanks
(I guess that isn't surprising...)
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
what is EOV I'm drawing a blank