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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT| Mount Breeding Simulator
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pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
I've been using both Sophia, Robin and Hit & Run/Firesweep Hinoka + Reposition to deal with Lyn for the most part. It's mainly arena assault where the onslaught grinds down my guaranteed, easy counters. I'm not so much lacking in strategies to deal with them as much as I'm just sick of seeing them in every match.
I might take that advice on Elincia, though. Every time I encounter Brave Ike with my current team it's usually a slog. Earlier I had 33 turns of kiting him around the oasis with Firesweep Hinoka on the square-of-defense-tiles-around-water map, whittling him down with specials until Elincia could finish him. I won that one but I really shouldn't have.
The new banner doesn't look like it's going to be a mainline game-themed banner I'm interested in; I can now feel better about spending 200ish orbs not getting Elincia then
Anyway, GameWith has updated their arena study with speculation on Sacred Seals' effect on arena scores. They are thinking QP is equivalent to a 100SP skill; seals like Distant Defense 1 worth 60SP; Spur/Fortify 1s worth 50; HP+3 is 40 and +1s are 30. So basically outside of things like QP (which doesn't not have a lv1 skill equivalent), seals have the same score contribution as their corresponding lv 1 skills. You can find their arena page here (in Japanese).
Also, more and more people are now suggesting that supports do affect arena scoring. I don't want to believe it (because it sucks if true) but my personal experience is kinda supporting it. I replaced my Reinhardt +1 today with an Effie I just promoted to +2 (with the sole purpose being score inflation obviously). To my surprise, instead of getting a boost my score dropped like a stone. My score range dropped from 698 ~ 708 with Reinhardt +1 previously to no single 700+ at all in 3 games, with one petty 696. Even if I take into account Reinhardt's 100 more SP in legendary weapon (he uses Escape Route so that's the same 240SP as Effie's Wary Fighter), and QP's supposedly 50SP advantage over average seals, they definitely can't cancel out the huge BST difference between a horse mage and an armored melee, let alone the higher merge count I have on Effie. I have S support between Reinhardt and Olivia, while Effie has no support with any of my arena cores.
Now, that sample size is of course too small to draw any conclusion; I will need to do more experiments (using AA instead, of course), but this is really not looking good. I was already not a fan of supports as it requires large amount of grinding; if it affects arena scoring I'm really going to hate it because it will make updating arena cores such a chore
Anyway, GameWith has updated their arena study with speculation on Sacred Seals' effect on arena scores. They are thinking QP is equivalent to a 100SP skill; seals like Distant Defense 1 worth 60SP; Spur/Fortify 1s worth 50; HP+3 is 40 and +1s are 30. So basically outside of things like QP (which doesn't not have a lv1 skill equivalent), seals have the same score contribution as their corresponding lv 1 skills. You can find their arena page here (in Japanese).
Also, more and more people are now suggesting that supports do affect arena scoring. I don't want to believe it (because it sucks if true) but my personal experience is kinda supporting it. I replaced my Reinhardt +1 today with an Effie I just promoted to +2 (with the sole purpose being score inflation obviously). To my surprise, instead of getting a boost my score dropped like a stone. My score range dropped from 698 ~ 708 with Reinhardt +1 previously to no single 700+ at all in 3 games, with one petty 696. Even if I take into account Reinhardt's 100 more SP in legendary weapon (he uses Escape Route so that's the same 240SP as Effie's Wary Fighter), and QP's supposedly 50SP advantage over average seals, they definitely can't cancel out the huge BST difference between a horse mage and an armored melee, let alone the higher merge count I have on Effie. I have S support between Reinhardt and Olivia, while Effie has no support with any of my arena cores.
Now, that sample size is of course too small to draw any conclusion; I will need to do more experiments (using AA instead, of course), but this is really not looking good. I was already not a fan of supports as it requires large amount of grinding; if it affects arena scoring I'm really going to hate it because it will make updating arena cores such a chore
If Nowi has TA3 she really does not need Swordbreaker. She will likely one shot Ryomas and Ryomas will only do pitiful damage to her. Although ggx2ac is in whale domain so he's talking about high merge environment but the same should still generally hold true.
I have lots of 5* Lance users so I don't really need Nowi at the moment. It's just that they need Sword Breaker to deal with Ryoma or Ike because they're not fast enough for level 50 Ike or Ryoma.
The funny thing is, I have a lot of Eliwood and Sully units stocked up because it was long ago I was planning to do a cavalry emblem with them and Cecilia but, they aren't really needed anymore due to other preferred cavalry units: Brave Roy, Eldigan, Oscar, Camus.
I mention Eliwood because he has Axe Breaker and I need that as well for Brave Ike.
I am aware Eliwood and Sully would only give me the level 2 weapon breaker skills at 4* but I don't have many Laslow or Abel to use up.
Seemed like one of the easier infernal to do. Just need a unit that can tank two hits from the blue and red cav. First round because it's another one that doesnt start until you leave a bait unit.
Yep, another blue dancer.
Fuck that, I'm excited, gives me a chance to save orbs after blowing them on the great elincia frenzy.
I'm morbidly curious to find out how they'd powercreep a dancer, but yeah. I suppose they need to start adding the Awakening/Fates kids eventually, although Shigure is near the bottom of the list of characters I'd like to see. Game has a dire lack of fluffy tails so maybe one of the other two will be a beaststone user.
One good step is giving dancers regular infantry BST. Dancers get 149-150 in BST.
Azura has 149 BST which is usually reserved for Ranged units. Cavs like Xander have 154-155, while Infantry/Fliers being melee units have 157/158 units.
Giving Dancers 9-10 more spread points should help them.
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theprodigy
Member
The new banner doesn't look like it's going to be a mainline game-themed banner I'm interested in; I can now feel better about spending 200ish orbs not getting Elincia then
Anyway, GameWith has updated their arena study with speculation on Sacred Seals' effect on arena scores. They are thinking QP is equivalent to a 100SP skill; seals like Distant Defense 1 worth 60SP; Spur/Fortify 1s worth 50; HP+3 is 40 and +1s are 30. So basically outside of things like QP (which doesn't not have a lv1 skill equivalent), seals have the same score contribution as their corresponding lv 1 skills. You can find their arena page here (in Japanese).
Also, more and more people are now suggesting that supports do affect arena scoring. I don't want to believe it (because it sucks if true) but my personal experience is kinda supporting it. I replaced my Reinhardt +1 today with an Effie I just promoted to +2 (with the sole purpose being score inflation obviously). To my surprise, instead of getting a boost my score dropped like a stone. My score range dropped from 698 ~ 708 with Reinhardt +1 previously to no single 700+ at all in 3 games, with one petty 696. Even if I take into account Reinhardt's 100 more SP in legendary weapon (he uses Escape Route so that's the same 240SP as Effie's Wary Fighter), and QP's supposedly 50SP advantage over average seals, they definitely can't cancel out the huge BST difference between a horse mage and an armored melee, let alone the higher merge count I have on Effie. I have S support between Reinhardt and Olivia, while Effie has no support with any of my arena cores.
Now, that sample size is of course too small to draw any conclusion; I will need to do more experiments (using AA instead, of course), but this is really not looking good. I was already not a fan of supports as it requires large amount of grinding; if it affects arena scoring I'm really going to hate it because it will make updating arena cores such a chore
Are you telling me I'm going to have to create a new Cordelia/Askr bonus support every 2 weeks?
smh
More like you are going to pair you Cordelia with Alphonse, your 4*+10 Est with Sharena, and your 4*+10 Shanna with Anna, and rotate two characters instead of one. lol Grinding supports periodically is not worth it.
Seriously though, I hope it doesn't have to come to this.
SenorArdilla
Member
I have no more QR2 fodder so I'm going to need to pull more blues anyways.
Shigure as a flying dancer (or Kinshi Knight) would be something a little bit different, at least - even if he'll likely just end up as a regular lance flier. They did make sure to add his pendant, though...
I wonder if Yura will be responsible for his art.
Technically, Shigure can be part-kitsune...
I wonder if Yura will be responsible for his art.
Technically, Shigure can be part-kitsune...
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I dunno why people think Azura is the next character, its this character from Fates. Maybe they will give her a name now, I don't think she got one in Conquest.
Shigure is the first Fates child?
Why not Forrest or Selkie or Percy.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I'd vote for Caeldori
SenorArdilla
Member
I wasn't looking at it closely enough, it obviously is a book. A non-standard weapon would seem to suggest that these aren't the regular characters, but usually seasonal variants would have something more as a joke weapon thing than just a normal tome. But then there's Summer Leo...
It's obviously
Ryoma
lol
I can't believe that design was a complete one-off. Should have been go-to design in Conquest
SenorArdilla
Member
Why would Kaze be wearing Azura's pedant though?
Your Black Knight. He doesn't have anything to really care about SIing to someone else. Just +1 your BK and have a good unit for next arena season.
SenorArdilla
Member
Done with BK for now.
Aldonite
Swap/Pivot
Black Luna/Aether
Steady Stance 3 / Steady Breath
WoM 3 / Vantage 3
Ward Armor/ Threaten Def 3
I'm going to wait for 42k feathers and a Tsubaki for QR3.
Aldonite
Swap/Pivot
Black Luna/Aether
Steady Stance 3 / Steady Breath
WoM 3 / Vantage 3
Ward Armor/ Threaten Def 3
I'm going to wait for 42k feathers and a Tsubaki for QR3.
Orbs for SI? Pfft. What do I look like, a lunatic who pulls for Summer Gaius so I can make Est top tier with Def Ploy?
Not that I can pull for anything. CYL and PoR cleaned me out for little benefit. Around 400 orbs between them for:
CYL - Katarina, Abel, Leo, Seliph, Hawkeye, B!Ike
Crimeans - Oscar, Oscar, Lukas
Only B!Ike, Oscar #1, and Katarina were new.
kuroneko0509
Member
because he married to her and created a copy of that pendant out of love... oh is that possible in fates? I forgot
We don't know that if it is her pendant tho. But that hair definitelly looks closer to Kaze's.
I kind of think Vantage is better than QR on him since he has less bulk than other armours so he gets dropped out of QR range and into vantage range much faster.
I was going to keep most of his base kit. Putting Fury on an armored unit might not be so great because he's so tough that Fury chip damage will form a significant amount of damage that he takes each turn.
I was thinking about keeping his A slot, maybe keeping his B for silly flying shenanigans, or replacing it with Vantage to take advantage of his distant counter and the fact that his speed makes him hard to ORKO.
I have Hector and BK, if I could have a tank Blue that can range counter I'd be set
He needs it to double fast enemies. Vantage would mean he leaves them alive for a turn which is very dangerous in the arena.
Same as mine!
It took almost 200 orbs, but it was worthy.
Can -atk+spd SCorrin be a good unit? I need a mage for flier emblem.
She can but you practically need Hone Fliers and the blue slot is very competitive in such a team.