-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|The Future of Fire Emblem
- Thread starter Shun
- Start date
- Status
DecoReturns
Member
Hours Left
Member
They've got one.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Is roy bad in this game?
Roy is pretty valuable in taking down uncle Hector.
Chain Chronicle, loved that game. Just imagine that game with the FE world. Amazing.
Thank you!
You just have to put your other guys in positions to land the last hit. Basic Fire Embleming! Go back to the Training Tower and hit up the lower levels.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Uggh.. Finally got 20 orbs to roll again, and I got a really crappy roll >_>.
2 3 Star Lissas (after I started training up 2 Star Lissa to become a 3 Star xD)
1 3 Star Saizo
1 3 Star Jagen
a 4 Star Palla... is she any good at least?
My initial roll (rerolled about twice) got me a 5* Takumi thankfully and I have the following 4 Stars (Palla, Abel, Shanna, Olivia, Jakob, Barst, and Virion) from the 1st 2 rolls.
2 3 Star Lissas (after I started training up 2 Star Lissa to become a 3 Star xD)
1 3 Star Saizo
1 3 Star Jagen
a 4 Star Palla... is she any good at least?
My initial roll (rerolled about twice) got me a 5* Takumi thankfully and I have the following 4 Stars (Palla, Abel, Shanna, Olivia, Jakob, Barst, and Virion) from the 1st 2 rolls.
Hours Left
Member
Saizo is the best unit out of that bunch, by the current tier standards.
Just keep pulling until you're satisfied. I got three straight rolls of nothing until I hit it big.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
This isn't my first roll though, like I've played through quite a bit of the game now. My first roll got me a 5* Takumi, which is awesome, but I haven't gotten any others past that.
Hm ok, good to know.
Hours Left
Member
I'm jealous. I really want him for my team.
Wyndstryker
Member
One good thing about not having the best rolls is that you learn how to maximize what you got.
michaelius
Banned
Anything up to lvl 10 can be done at super cheap 1-2 stamina levels of towers so imho it's better to get first few levels there.
Wow. I haven't bought orbs yet and probably won't. (If I get the urge to spend money for a better team I'm going back to Fates.) Still. Hate.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Well it seems like he's better than Jakob at least. I find Jakob pretty poor, even as a 4 Star. I never really cared for Saizo in Fates either... btw, I just realized, where the heck is Kaze in this game?
?
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
okay - so i've powered through hard and lunatic mode.
I lucked out and got Ogma and Takumi
Takumi was pretty much the key player but also feels a little bit "cheat mode".
End team : Ogma (40), Takumi (40), Jagen (37), Hawkeye (35)
Jagen is a bit of a monster too.
I lucked out and got Ogma and Takumi
Takumi was pretty much the key player but also feels a little bit "cheat mode".
End team : Ogma (40), Takumi (40), Jagen (37), Hawkeye (35)
Jagen is a bit of a monster too.
LOL
This is not the best way to think about it. Unless you're getting desirable heroes or the resources to get them, you aren't making progress. The point of playing the story missions is not to complete the story missions but to get orbs. I mean, sure, long-term maybe the idea is to be able to do the hardest missions as a challenge sort of thing, but your ability to do this and the time it takes you to get there is heavily dependent on which heroes you pull.
The game is basically a slot machine that gets more expensive with each play. At any time you have the option of throwing out everything it's given you and moving to a fresh machine where the cost-to-play is back to where it started. As you play for more and more time without seeing substantial returns from the slot machine, it actually becomes a better idea to abandon it and move to the next machine. You probably don't want to reroll immediately if you get a Takumi out of your first 4 stones. You probably do want to reroll if that's still all you've gotten after 15 more stones.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
hm.. I see. Basically I've only gotten 5 Star Takumi after 15 stones (aka 3 rolls). Is that pretty bad? I still can get about 5 rolls more just from the story. Looking at duckroll, I just thought myself as lucky lol.
I mean
What IS the endgame here?
It's not internet fame as the global rankings aren't posted online.
Even if you didn't get any 5* pulls, you're still making progress every day.
You can have your 5* choose a weaker weapon and act as bait, might only slightly reduce their effectiveness though.
when they add pvp getting competitive might be relevant, unless they muck it up and neither team approaches becomes the meta
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Like every mobile game ever, to collect as many cards, characters, whatever. To get you to do that by making your spend money to buy stones.
They will expand the story, do fun stuff like beach stories, Valentine's Day stuff, Christmas stuff, all with a unique set of characters and art with impossible drop rates. The ePeen stuff is people posting their "hauls" and bragging about their new 5* characters.
Falchion
Member
Yep, good call. Going to do that especially since I just realized SP is tied to each character and isn't a combined resource.
Duckroll is a masochist. But, yeah, I think I said earlier in the thread that if I hadn't had 2 5* heroes by 10 or 15 stones I'd probably have restarted. From memory you have a 25%ish chance of getting at least one in your first 5 and then another 50% chance of getting another in the next 10. And since there's a limited number of easily-accessible free orbs that seems worth doing. The next 40 orbs are going to take you a lot longer to get. Like, if the worry is that you don't want to repeat content then this isn't for you, since you get 90 of your free orbs by replaying the same levels on higher difficulties.
I figure that for most people the goal is basically: have a nice collection of high-level 5* heroes I like. "See the story" is probably not a huge motivator, and regardless you can do that in an afternoon. "Beat the hardest missions" is pretty similar to "Be the best there ever was", and that's such a forward-looking goal that it totally makes sense to write off an early streak of bad luck and start fresh. It just does not take much time to level a 5* hero to 25 or even 30 and get back through Normal difficulty.
Velcro Fly
Member
nevermind
I won't spend ten dollars on Mario, but I'll spend 20 on a F2P Fire Emblem.
I'm part of the problem, sorry
Problem with Mario is that there won't be future content.
I was thinking earlier today, I wonder if this game will have any "exclusive" units, only obtainable via a certain time (and no, I don't just mean seasonal ones either). A lot of other gatcha games, such as Granblue Fantasy, One Piece Treasure Cruise, Dokkan Battle, Puzzle and Dragons, etc. have characters you can only pull during certain time-frames. I wonder if Fire Emblem Heroes will have the same type thing. If so, that might explain why we haven't received Ike yet. Maybe he'll be available in the once-a-month gatcha (on average) where you have a chance to pull him. It could make him extra special/powerful because of it.
Well, I'm saving my orbs regardless, to see what the next banner(s) look like. I'm hoping to get enough so I can pour them all into a single one, and hopefully increase my chances of a 5* on that banner.
Well, I'm saving my orbs regardless, to see what the next banner(s) look like. I'm hoping to get enough so I can pour them all into a single one, and hopefully increase my chances of a 5* on that banner.
Meanwhile marth is my only 5 star :lol
Haven't you seen Santa Robin and Reindeer Tharja?
The main thing preventing me from spending money and being dedicated to the game is the leveling up system. It uses the traditional FE level up where each stat as a % to increase at level up. This is on top of the gacha summon and you can end up with crippled rare characters. My 5*Azura got two successive level up with only an SP increase. My Frederick has like 15 defense at level 20 something. Garbage level up leads to garbage units.
We don't have Ike because only five/eight of the fourteen fire emblems are represented in the game so far.
I say 5/8 is that Marths game has been remade twice with a sequel added to the first remake that they split into two different titles when they remade it into a second time. However, they are only referring to the first remake "officially" at this moment.
I did, hence the "non-seasonal only" mention, haha.
I just mean standard characters, available during special gatcha banners held every month or so (usually at the end). Call it Emblem Festival, or something.
Ah, fair enough!
Still, I wonder how Nintendo will handle upcoming banners. A special, once-a-month banner where characters are available where they usually aren't, wouldn't surprise me. We have Sugofest in Treasure Cruise, Dokkan Fest in Dokkan Battle, and Legend Gatcha in Granblue Fantasy. Seems to be a common thing in (most) gatcha games, but I'm not sure if Nintendo will do the same thing here.
Wyndstryker
Member
Max lvl makes no difference. All units reach max stat at lvl 40. The way there is random.
Falchion
Member
I'll take him as a 4 star, I just want the dude period.
- Status