You probably will want to do it eventually. I'm sure they'll have similar quests in the future. Since my current team is pretty much all set I am just trying to get 1 of every "type" to level 40.
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You probably will want to do it eventually. I'm sure they'll have similar quests in the future. Since my current team is pretty much all set I am just trying to get 1 of every "type" to level 40.
The other player probably just unlocked 5* Catria (resetting her to lvl 1) and didn't bother to sync a replacement arena team.
EDIT: Or they're using Bamboo's trick as described above to get easier match-ups on offense?
I feel like -(def/res) depending on which you have in excess, is better than -HP since HP is universal "defense" against all damage types. And then either +Att or +Speed.
The entire team was level 1... not sure how that matchup would even happen.
I don't have Lyn myself, but I read that she's a good but high risk/high reward character. She's so-so at full health, but becomes a glass cannon at half health or lower because of stat boosts that kick in when she's low.
If you can reroll and that's the only 5* you got, I would probably reroll unless you really like Lyn.
We have to remember that a pull here is a 5 pull not a 10 pull. And this system is even worst because the color orbs can screw you and leave you without options for a focus unit (imagine rolling 3 greens 2 grays in leg heroes for example). That makes the gacha more expensive on average. So I think we should get at least 4-5 pulls month. With this rates and the color orbs impediment I think less is problems for f2p players.
Depends on how many hits you can take. If you're frail like Kagerou, more HP is probably better. Otherwise DEF or RES is more effective over multiple attacks.
SuperDowns
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And thus, Nintendo's real plans worked.
Ya, if you're getting doubled, then the +X in Def/Res is actually double the HP so it will also depend on if your character can even be doubled on a regular basis and/or presence of Brave Weapons in the meta.
I doubt that this is the right way to think about the stones' colors. This is actually an advantage for players hunting for focus units. If you go into legendary heroes and see 3 greens and 2 grays, you pick one stone and then back out. If you weren't shown the colors beforehand you would have tried every stone and wasted 15 extra orbs. Instead you can specifically seek out stones with a high probability of being a focus unit, such that if what you're after is only the focus units you can get much better than a 6% rate of 5*s by only picking the best stones.
Edit: That said, coming from CCGs like Hearthstone the ~3 orbs/day we're getting now already feel really stingy.
He's buying used though.
3 orbs a day is stingy? Yikes.
Keep in mind that every chapter is 15 orbs between all 3 difficulties.
2 chapters a month plus even the most paltry of bonus orbs should amount to at least two free 5 pulls a month.
Tiers son
Yes? I mean, this is a full pull once a week. Where you've then got about a 25% chance of getting anything really worthwhile. They're adding new heroes after the game has been out for two weeks. Free players don't have a prayer of owning a significant fraction of the 5*s.
Or just look at what you have to pay to expect to get even one copy of most of the 5*s. It's totally absurd next to what you'd have to pay to be able to put together a bunch of really competitive Hearthstone decks, and it's even possible to keep up as a free (if dedicated) player.
I get that that's how gacha games work, but this certainly isn't for me long-term if its pricing (in both money and time) is this out of whack relative to other kinds of f2p games.
He's just a poorly designed character i'm afraid
Nowhere near enough power to justify his low speed, and blue mages >>> red mages atm
Good point! Thanks!
Competetivd Card games are very different compared to pure gacha games like this as all the stuff is craftable as well.
Red_taiyaki
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This. Discounting any special orb promotions that Nintendo may or may not do, the influx of "new" content and special stages should net at least two free pulls with the three difficulties. Not the best in terms of net time spent, but this is a gacha game.
All gacha games are designed to bleed your wallet and time dry for the long haul
.Disclaimer: since I do have a full team of lv40 5*, I guess I'm in this for the long haul thanks to RNG luck haha.
Gai Murakumo
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I am sure sometime down the line they will have something for Monday but as of right now it looks like it will be empty for now.
Give it 3-6 months and you'll be able to do a 5-pull which also includes a 5* of your choice. It's become fairly common in gacha games and I'd be surprised if they don't occasionally do this to promote light IAP play.
He's not. He's very good especially with paired with Olivia. Hit a 1 range unit from 2 spaces away, restrict movement to 1 space and deal 7 damage to all enemy units within 2 spaces, use Olivia, run out of range or kill another unit, again doing another 7 damage to all units within 2 space, and now you just softened and whittled down their team while taking no risk in return.
But then I'm in the camp where I believe almost all characters are viable.
Did it auto heart it?
Needs to be the same star level.
Red_taiyaki
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And the same company that refuses to drop any of their first-party games in price; even if it's 3-4 years old! Not to mention 0 price drops for the Wii U!
So you don't want to give other people defense points? I'm not sure what's the point you're trying to make.
Have you played other Gacha games before? If we go just by daily login bonus, 1 or 2 orbs per day would mean we could pull every 10 or 20 days. Compare that for example to Kingdom Hearts Unchained Chi, were you get 500 jewels over 5 days and need 3000 to do a 10 pull (which would be the equivalent). Now of course, KHUx has other means to get Jewels, like 150-250 for every 5 story quests, or 200 per day for 7 days for a daily challenge.
FE currently doesn't really have that, or well, nothing "regular". The weekly added bonus map to celebrate the release gives us 6 more orbs per week, which would be the closest thing we have so far. Just give it time. The game is still new.
And as others said, I wouldn't really compare CCGs with this. They just work differently.
That's probably it, I'll double check.
"God's Beard!"
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Man, ranking up a 4* character is hard as hell. I pulled a 4* Camilla and I have 20,000 feathers but no green Great Shields :-(
I guess I just have to wait a few days until the training zone turns green again...
I have 5* Minerva and a 4* Catria so I was hoping to start building a sweet flier team based around Minerva's Ward Fliers ability. There's no red flier right? I guess I could just throw in my 5* Young Tiki or Lyn, I don't really wanna have a team with only two types, I dunno.
I guess I just have to wait a few days until the training zone turns green again...
I have 5* Minerva and a 4* Catria so I was hoping to start building a sweet flier team based around Minerva's Ward Fliers ability. There's no red flier right? I guess I could just throw in my 5* Young Tiki or Lyn, I don't really wanna have a team with only two types, I dunno.
Shiiieeeet, I have 93 orbs right now and desperately want a new banner. My secondary team (two 3* Robin and F.Corrin, and two 4* Abel and Olivia) is wiping out Lunatic maps up to chapter 8 making me sweat. Too big a disparity.
"God's Beard!"
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I haven't had as much of a problem with the gacha system as you guys, but my gf and I have been pretty lucky for free players.
My 5* pulls:
Hers:
Plus I've got a few good 4*s in Frederick, Catria and Camilla. I don't think they need to do a whole lot of changing, though, the game is so watered down and there's no local battling so I don't see putting a ton of time into what amounts to a slot machine.
My 5* pulls:
- Lyn
- Young Tiki
- Minerva
Hers:
- Lyn
- Old Tiki
- Hector
Plus I've got a few good 4*s in Frederick, Catria and Camilla. I don't think they need to do a whole lot of changing, though, the game is so watered down and there's no local battling so I don't see putting a ton of time into what amounts to a slot machine.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";230303926]I have 5* Minerva and a 4* Catria so I was hoping to start building a sweet flier team based around Minerva's Ward Fliers ability. There's no red flier right? I guess I could just throw in my 5* Young Tiki or Lyn, I don't really wanna have a team with only two types, I dunno.[/QUOTE]
Palla and Caeda are red fliers; not sure if there are any others.
Palla and Caeda are red fliers; not sure if there are any others.
ZSaberLink
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Nice!
Continuous 3 orbs a day would pretty much be unprecedented in a gacha game. OPTC is one of the most generous (at least imo) and it's about 1 gem a day. These games aren't designed for everyone to be able to do free pulls each week, and certainly not designed for everyone to have all, or even a significant percentage of, top units, at least not without paying.
Hearthstone is a completely different business model and a completely different kind of game, so it's not really a valid comparison imo.
The real issue/test will be whether a completely F2P player can compete with the P2P players and can complete all content. Given how viable pretty much every character is (now that really is unprecedented in a gacha game), I think that's going to be the case.
Blergmeister
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I'm debating on taking Gunter and Olivia from 3 to 4 stars. I got both from the daily character maps. I took them from 2 to 3 already since feather cost is cheap for that, and Olivia needed sing. Gunter I'm leveling because he fills both unfilled niches on my team of green and cavalry and I can also use him for the Cavalry mission (kill 35+ with cavalry). Olivia I'm leveling for Sing, obviously.
So my thoughts on why to promote Gunter is if I'm taking someone to L40, or even L30+, might as well be 4 or 5 stars. Similar thoughts with Olivia. Is there anything I'm not considering?
So my thoughts on why to promote Gunter is if I'm taking someone to L40, or even L30+, might as well be 4 or 5 stars. Similar thoughts with Olivia. Is there anything I'm not considering?
ZSaberLink
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Just tried 9-5 Hard and got slaughtered with the following team below. Abel basically couldn't even kill the reds and while Gunter could take some hits, he definitely couldn't dish enough damage. Takumi got one-shotted by Veronica, which I'm not too surprised by.... Any thoughts on improving this team? I'm thinking of grinding up the rest of my team (since the enemies are lvl 35) and replacing Gunter & Abel with Shanna & Anna (but grinding them all up). I'm easily getting through Advanced battles in Arena though with my current team.
Current team:
4* Olivia:
Lvl 27
HP: 26
Atk: 33
Def: 19
Spd: 24
Res: 15
4* Abel: (thanks to Brave Lance, he's -3 Attack, and -5 Speed...)
Lvl 28
HP: 33
Atk: 26
Def: 18
Spd: 17
Res: 17
5* Takumi:
Lvl 34
HP: 36
Atk: 46
Def: 20
Spd: 31
Res: 11
4* Gunter
Lvl 29
HP: 32
Atk: 36
Def: 28
Spd: 19
Res: 15
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4* Anna
Lvl 26
HP: 32
Atk: 31
Def: 16
Spd: 28
Res: 18
4* Shareena:
Lvl 25
HP: 32
Atk: 32
Def: 17
Spd: 24
Res: 11
4* Palla:
Lvl 23
HP: 31
Atk: 29
Def: 20
Spd: 19
Res: 19
I've also got characters like, 4* Barst (22), Shanna (21), Jakob (20), Fir, Florina, and Cecilia
and while Gunter could take some hits, he definitely couldn't dish enough damage. Takumi got one-shotted by Veronica, which I'm not too surprised by.... Any thoughts on improving this team? I'm thinking of grinding up the rest of my team (since the enemies are lvl 35) and replacing Gunter & Abel with Shanna & Anna (but grinding them all up). I'm easily getting through Advanced battles in Arena though with my current team.Current team:
4* Olivia:
Lvl 27
HP: 26
Atk: 33
Def: 19
Spd: 24
Res: 15
4* Abel: (thanks to Brave Lance, he's -3 Attack, and -5 Speed...)
Lvl 28
HP: 33
Atk: 26
Def: 18
Spd: 17
Res: 17
5* Takumi:
Lvl 34
HP: 36
Atk: 46
Def: 20
Spd: 31
Res: 11
4* Gunter
Lvl 29
HP: 32
Atk: 36
Def: 28
Spd: 19
Res: 15
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Possible Alternates
4* Anna
Lvl 26
HP: 32
Atk: 31
Def: 16
Spd: 28
Res: 18
4* Shareena:
Lvl 25
HP: 32
Atk: 32
Def: 17
Spd: 24
Res: 11
4* Palla:
Lvl 23
HP: 31
Atk: 29
Def: 20
Spd: 19
Res: 19
I've also got characters like, 4* Barst (22), Shanna (21), Jakob (20), Fir, Florina, and Cecilia
Red_taiyaki
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Just tried 9-5 Hard and got slaughtered with the following team below. Abel basically couldn't even kill the reds
Got any light's blessing left? I had to use one to get through 9-5 hard despite 4x Lvl 40 5* lol.
No, I want to have a button before entering a match that says 'leave current arena run' (or simmilar) right now I have to concede a match even if Im winning becuse if I end it Im forced to continue playing even if if I know Im not going to improve my arena rating.
"God's Beard!"
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Phew, finally got to Lunatic mission 9.
Honestly the secret MVP of my team has been my 4* Oboro. She clears out armored units, has a ton of def, raises other teammates def while lowering my opponents'. Really helps a lot when you're fighting enemies above your level or have uneven levels among your team. Also helps my 5* Lyn survive when I'm keeping her below 50% health to trigger her atk bonuses.
Honestly the secret MVP of my team has been my 4* Oboro. She clears out armored units, has a ton of def, raises other teammates def while lowering my opponents'. Really helps a lot when you're fighting enemies above your level or have uneven levels among your team. Also helps my 5* Lyn survive when I'm keeping her below 50% health to trigger her atk bonuses.
ZSaberLink
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Well given my team is a lvl 34 and a bunch of mid to high 20s, I thought I'd level them up first before even thinking about Light's Blessing (I didn't kill a single unit lol). Especially given what you just said haha. I have a bunch of them though since I haven't used one yet.
You do know you can surrender before entering a match and it won't break your streak, right?
Just tried 9-5 Hard and got slaughtered with the following team below. Abel basically couldn't even kill the reds
Your main problem are the levels really. A lvl 27 character's just not going to be able to do much against lvl 35 enemies. I'd also recommend keeping Abel since he's pretty damn good in arena at the moment, due to sword units being so popular.
Pretty sure this is my issue as well, what's the best way to level characters below lv30 to above 30? I've been trying to do the training tower but either my >30lv characters kill everything or my <30lv characters die (or both).
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