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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|The Future of Fire Emblem

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mikemandey

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I thought my team was already formidable with Ryoma, Linde, Takumi and Hector but my poor soul and hands were still itching to pull Azura.

I had 29 orbs remaining and the chance to get Azura is soooo slim since she's a 5* based unit and not on the current focus banner but I said 'fuck it, let's just try one pull'

I pressed summon... Two red orbs, ONE blue, one colorless, and one green. Goddammit!!

I picked one red orb first.. Got a scrub.. No problem.

Then the blue orb next..

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OMG OMG OMG..
 
(the rewards on those quests are crests to promote a character from 4* to 5*)

the rewards are completely besides the point, the point is making progress in these quests can only be achieved by having extreme luck, not just by getting a color-specific unit.

The point is I cannot complete that quest without either having huge luck or just straight out paying, that is terrible design made to throw money at the game. It is worrisome.

I find that getting the Badges is Very easy from the Training totums.

Going for the 'Hard' group gave me different colored badges. I retrieved them from each of those three options. Different days would give me different colored badges. I stopped worrying about them after I noticed this on a couple of separate days--though perhaps that was only from luck.
 

WadeitOut

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Not sure what you're okaying about. My only 5 star mage at the moment is a green Merric. So the only way I can use Hector in my main team is to go Mageless or blue lanceless. My main team is all 40 so I'll put him in a team of 20s just for the sake of leveling.
 

Rodin

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Mine is still 4 stars, but she seems very good so far. She ruins Infantry with her skill, feels like a discount Takumi.

I'll have to get her higher level so I can try in the arena to know for sure, but she seems strong.
Yeah she gets the job done, wondering if she becomes an absolute beast with 5 stars. I also have Gaius and Matthew 4 stars though.

Then the blue orb next..



OMG OMG OMG..
Holy fucking shit

<3
 

Okamid3n

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Upgraded Nino to five stars. On one hand, I should've upgraded Sharena instead - higher stats total and I don't have a five stars blue.

On the other hand, Nino's drawback + boosts adding up to her weapon's power are the most fun I've had with this game yet, so I'm all in on this train. I actually finally cleared 9-2 Lunatic when I said "screw it" and I used my level 26 four stars Nino with a level 20 Olivia and a level 38 Tharja. She has ridiculous power and draw back versus armor knights is pretty much gg.

I'll do Sharena next, getting feathers isn't too hard with the Arena.
 

Azuran

Banned
that is good to know, I'm no expert in gacha games, but so far FEH seems to be following the others trend, like FFBE. Hopefully it is just a non-issue

FEH is a straight up gacha. Most of the trends in FFBE can be found in similar games because they want you to pull and spend. Developers don't want people hoarding currency that's needed to pull because that means you're never going to spend actual money if you have 300 orbs saved up.

Banner units giving extra rewards in corresponding events is absolutely nothing new. FEH doesn't have gear or anything of that like, so it's not like it really matters what they put behind that. No one is going to cry for measly badges you can get by playing through the game normally.

Now if they start introducing characters behind other character you need to pull first, then yeah, that would be stupid, but it still wouldn't be the first time it has happened in a game like this.
 
So how much have people spent to get good teams?

I have spent nothing. And if i completed all remaining hard and lunatic missions i could summon 10 more heroes. However i still havnt got a single 5 star hero and im not sure how viable the end game missions will be without one. Im tempted to stop playing even though i really like the gameplay a lot. If there was no stamina meter i would prob just be happy grinding away but as it is, when the half price training mission stop its going to be rediculous lvling characters up past 25 or so.

Not really sure this game needs a stamina meter. Without one people would grind more and once they lvl everyone be tempted to pay to get more heroes.

I think game has shown me how well a srpg can work on a phone and wish there was a pay once game of its visual and gameplay quality.

I dont mind paying money into ftp games but i almost always only do it when it stuff i know what im buying (cosmetics, characters etc). Random pulls puts me off entirely spending cash in that way.
 
I mean if they were going to make him like in PoR he would probably cap every single stat but mag and lck that do not exist here :p. But he will still have 1-2 range with Ragnell right?

Hard to say. If they just straight give Ragnell 1-2 range, they'll probably weaken it a lot to make up for it. I think they're trying to avoid giving anyone the ability to attack both at close range and long range for the moment deliberately.

He'll definitely at least have hectors ranged counter skill though.
 

Totakeke

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So how much have people spent to get good teams?

I have spent nothing. And if i completed all remaining hard and lunatic missions i could summon 10 more heroes. However i still havnt got a single 5 star hero and im not sure how viable the end game missions will be without one. Im tempted to stop playing even though i really like the gameplay a lot. If there was no stamina meter i would prob just be happy grinding away but as it is, when the half price training mission stop its going to be rediculous lvling characters up past 25 or so.

Not really sure this game needs a stamina meter. Without one people would grind more and once they lvl everyone be tempted to pay to get more heroes.

I think game has shown me how well a srpg can work on a phone and wish there was a pay once game of its visual and gameplay quality.

I dont mind paying money into ftp games but i almost always only do it when it stuff i know what im buying (cosmetics, characters etc). Random pulls puts me off entirely spending cash in that way.

If you're just doing PvE I suspect you can get very far especially with specialist characters. If you're doing arena then with the current system 5*s have a large advantage.
 

TrutaS

Member
I realize now how lucky I was to get 4 five stars in the first 2 full pull, because since then I've done about 8 full pulls and didn't see a single 5. Ridiculous drop rates..
 

Flo_Evans

Member
random but last night I tried to play awakenings on the 3ds.

Holy huge ass maps! lol.

Also my save file was on hard mode permanent death jesus this game is cruel.
 
If you're just doing PvE I suspect you can get very far especially with specialist characters. If you're doing arena then with the current system 5*s have a large advantage.

Been doing my 3 daily arenas to get feathers. 2k to turn a 3* to 4* is feasable. But 20k to go 4* to 5*. Takes forever. Especially without 5* units to do better.

Basically i love the games gameplay and asthetic. But im getting to the point i cant really progress at a fun rate without paying way more than i would be comfortable with. Especially when the stamina costs go up.
 

Raging Spaniard

If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
I thought my team was already formidable with Ryoma, Linde, Takumi and Hector but my poor soul and hands were still itching to pull Azura.

I had 29 orbs remaining and the chance to get Azura is soooo slim since she's a 5* based unit and not on the current focus banner but I said 'fuck it, let's just try one pull'

I pressed summon... Two red orbs, ONE blue, one colorless, and one green. Goddammit!!

I picked one red orb first.. Got a scrub.. No problem.

Then the blue orb next..

OMG OMG OMG..

Congrats! This was my first pull. Needless to say, I didnt reroll lol

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Totakeke

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Been doing my 3 daily arenas to get feathers. 2k to turn a 3* to 4* is feasable. But 20k to go 4* to 5*. Takes forever. Especially without 5* units to do better.

Basically i love the games gameplay and asthetic. But im getting to the point i cant really progress at a fun rate without paying way more than i would be comfortable with. Especially when the stamina costs go up.

Well what does progression mean to you? Completing all the missions? I think you can easily do that without spending a dime and without 5*s as long you level up characters to tackle specific missions.
 
Well what does progression mean to you? Completing all the missions? I think you can easily do that without spending a dime and without 5*s as long you level up characters to tackle specific missions.

I'm not convinced the chapter 9 lunatics are doable without any 5*s or using light blessings, but other than that, you probably can get through everything else.
 
Well what does progression mean to you? Completing all the missions? I think you can easily do that without spending a dime and without 5*s as long you level up characters to tackle specific missions.

I have completed all normal missions. I am on chapter 8 on hard and i think 3 on lunatic. I imagine i can do the rest if i level up my team to max. But its not like the story is good in anyway. This game is about collecting heroes, lvling them up.

So progress is doing well in arena and lvling up new and better heroes in all modes really. But you will get to a point where you cant do those things at a fun rate. Its fine. Its how these games make money and thats fine. I only find it annoying personally because i want to play a game like this without those ftp hooks. I have more than "got my moneys worth" lol. I can hardly complain. But if i had invested money and that got me a better team, i would still hit that wall requiring more money. Knowing this is what stops me spending anything on these games.
 

Cerium

Member
random but last night I tried to play awakenings on the 3ds.

Holy huge ass maps! lol.

Also my save file was on hard mode permanent death jesus this game is cruel.

It's entertaining to see your reactions going from Heroes to the mainline games. Keep us updated if you continue!
 

Totakeke

Member
I have completed all normal missions. I am on chapter 8 on hard and i think 3 on lunatic. I imagine i can do the rest if i level up my team to max. But its not like the story is good in anyway. This game is about collecting heroes, lvling them up.

So progress is doing well in arena and lvling up new and better heroes in all modes really. But you will get to a point where you cant do those things at a fun rate. Its fine. Its how these games make money and thats fine. I only find it annoying personally because i want to play a game like this without those ftp hooks. I have more than "got my moneys worth" lol. I can hardly complain. But if i had invested money and that got me a better team, i would still hit that wall requiring more money. Knowing this is what stops me spending anything on these games.

Arena and anything competitive in gacha games will always be fundamentally pay to win. So yeah, if part of fun is doing well relative to others then yeah it won't be.
 

Fbh

Member
Is it me or does Roy kinda suck?

I really don't get his use right now. He isn't very good at dealing damage, he isnt good as a tank and has no special skill other than pushing characters around.

3 stars Stahl (who was replaced by Roy) was at least decent at tanking
 

Zafir

Member
Is it me or does Roy kinda suck?

I really don't get his use right now. He isn't very good at dealing damage, he isnt good as a tank and has no special skill other than pushing characters around.

3 stars Stahl (who was replaced by Roy) was at least decent at tanking

I think he's in a really over-crowded spot sadly.

There's just no reason to use him over all the other solid red swordsman units. Shove is cool, but not enough.

He's sadly the first to to be benched from my team.
 

Cerium

Member
Is it me or does Roy kinda suck?

I really don't get his use right now. He isn't very good at dealing damage, he isnt good as a tank and has no special skill other than pushing characters around.

3 stars Stahl (who was replaced by Roy) was at least decent at tanking
Roy is never good, not even in Smash.
 

Flo_Evans

Member
It's entertaining to see your reactions going from Heroes to the mainline games. Keep us updated if you continue!

I've played it before (whenever it 1st came out) and the gamecube one.

I might start a new save file on normal/casual cause I was pretty lost as to what the hell I was doing with my team.
 

muu

Member
I think he's in a really over-crowded spot sadly.

There's just no reason to use him over all the other solid red swordsman units. Shove is cool, but not enough.

He's sadly the first to to be benched from my team.

I started w/ Lucina and Marth. While trying for a Takumi I got two Roys.

I'm sure one day he'll be useful as a counter to an OP green...
 

toneroni

Member
I started benching 5* Roy for a 3* Olivia on tough maps and Arena.

Wow, just pulled this after a bunch of bad pulls!
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Is Nowi good? Was going to focus on promoting my 3*
Olivia or 4* Robin first.
Wonder how Seliph is gonna be!

Should I bench Lyn / Camilla / Tak / 3* Olivia / 4* Robin?
 

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I wish we could implement a new rule: If you want to post your pulls, do so, but there really is no need to post your pulls and include a screenshot. Trust me, we all believe you. We do. Honest.
 

Cerium

Member
I wish we could implement a new rule: If you want to post your pulls, do so, but there really is no need to post your pulls and include a screenshot. Trust me, we all believe you. We do. Honest.

Why are you so aggressively salty about pull pictures? I barely see you post about anything else.
 

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Why are you so aggressively salty about pull pictures? I barely see you post about anything else.

You're just "salty" because I called you out for repeatedly bragging about your pulls. What was it, 12 posts basically saying the same thing within 2 hours? :)

Anyway, I don't want to have to load up a bunch of screenshots on my phone when browsing the thread. I'd be okay with it if it added value in some way.
 

Wanderer5

Member
You're just "salty" because I called you out for repeatedly bragging about your pulls. What was it, 12 posts basically saying the same thing within 2 hours? :)

Anyway, I don't want to have to load up a bunch of screenshots on my phone when browsing the thread. I'd be okay with it if it added value in some way.

Mobile neogaf has a option to not show photos (having them under view photo tabs).
 

Weebos

Banned
I wish we could implement a new rule: If you want to post your pulls, do so, but there really is no need to post your pulls and include a screenshot. Trust me, we all believe you. We do. Honest.

Eh, this is a gacha game, it comes with the territory.
 
So how much have people spent to get good teams?

I have spent nothing. And if i completed all remaining hard and lunatic missions i could summon 10 more heroes. However i still havnt got a single 5 star hero and im not sure how viable the end game missions will be without one. Im tempted to stop playing even though i really like the gameplay a lot. If there was no stamina meter i would prob just be happy grinding away but as it is, when the half price training mission stop its going to be rediculous lvling characters up past 25 or so.

Not really sure this game needs a stamina meter. Without one people would grind more and once they lvl everyone be tempted to pay to get more heroes.

I think game has shown me how well a srpg can work on a phone and wish there was a pay once game of its visual and gameplay quality.

I dont mind paying money into ftp games but i almost always only do it when it stuff i know what im buying (cosmetics, characters etc). Random pulls puts me off entirely spending cash in that way.

Such is the way of gatcha. Sorry to hear. I'm strictly ftp but have had ridiculously good luck with pulls in comparison to others (sorry for the brag). I know I'm lucky not just from other people's pulls posted but also prior experience with these gatcha nightmares. Mind you, I did re-roll for days without a single 5* before getting 2 in one pull. You could do this and restart to get a the guts of a good endgame team going. Either this or, if you do enjoy the gameplay, just be content to clear up normal,hard and some lunatic missions until you get a good pull or some strong event unit down the line. We've already had Olivia given out for free which has been auto-include for many people.

I definitely get you about the random pulls and money. I'm certainly not above it. I've put cash into other gatchas I was heavily invested in and inevitably felt like crap if I didn't roll anything decent. It can be a slippery slope from just throwing in a few bucks until you get a could pull, then some time passes and you realise you could've bought a full FE game and your best units have been hit by power creep.

Sorry if this came of as condescending. It's just that I've been in this boat before hitting frustrating luck walls when you really enjoy the actual gameplay. Oh Terra Battle
Still the GOAT
 

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Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Adding a smiley face doesn't make you sound any less defensive and upset.

Defensive about what? Upset about what?

Anyway, feel free to PM me your thoughts and feelings rather than clutter up the thread.


Mobile neogaf has a option to not show photos (having them under show tabs).

Oh snap, thanks. Lemme take a look.

Edit: You're my hero. I had no idea these options were even here.
 

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Has anyone been unranked yet? Just wanted to know, If I'm unranked, do I fall down a tier? or do I just not move up?

Do tiers matter? I felt like I read somewhere that they don't have any effect...? What do they do?
 

redcrayon

Member
Been doing my 3 daily arenas to get feathers. 2k to turn a 3* to 4* is feasable. But 20k to go 4* to 5*. Takes forever. Especially without 5* units to do better.

Basically i love the games gameplay and asthetic. But im getting to the point i cant really progress at a fun rate without paying way more than i would be comfortable with. Especially when the stamina costs go up.

Stamina costs aren't going up, half cost has been extended indefinitely.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...ing_made_to_fire_emblem_heroes_in_early_march
 
Man. I'm ever going to get a good pull again. My team is 5* Robin, 4* Camilla, 4*Catria and 4* Cain. I got Robin on my initial roll, and Camilla the second time, and have gotten nothing since then. I'd love Azura and Lucina to switch out with Catria and Cain.
 

Acerac

Banned
For what it's worth I like seeing the crazy pulls people post. Since I'm saving up orbs myself it helps to be able to celebrate with others who get lucky.
 

Pejo

Member
I thought my team was already formidable with Ryoma, Linde, Takumi and Hector but my poor soul and hands were still itching to pull Azura.

I had 29 orbs remaining and the chance to get Azura is soooo slim since she's a 5* based unit and not on the current focus banner but I said 'fuck it, let's just try one pull'

I pressed summon... Two red orbs, ONE blue, one colorless, and one green. Goddammit!!

I picked one red orb first.. Got a scrub.. No problem.

Then the blue orb next..



OMG OMG OMG..

Fucking grats man, this is my most wanted unit right now. That's a great pickup for a lot of team compositions. Hopefully your luck has an effect on me when I do some more pulls.

I've been having a real shit of a time playing while leveling and playing arena with no healer, so I put Sakura back in my lineup and haven't lost a match yet. I don't know why I fell for the no-healer meta meme. I've always been a cautious type of strategy player, no sense in forcing a new playstyle when that one works for me.

I'm still up for suggestions on which healer to 5* first. Clarine or Sakura. I know Wrys is supposedly the best, but I'm not having that ballsack looking dude on my team. Plus he offers zero offense when sometimes having that ranged attack will mean defeat or victory.
 

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Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
For what it's worth I like seeing the crazy pulls people post. Since I'm saving up orbs myself it helps to be able to celebrate with others who get lucky.

No doubt, and like I said, posting what you got is great. I just didn't like the screenshots themselves. But turns out, not an issue thanks to our GAF overlords!

But I do admit that seeing people's posts can induce me to do a pull or three myself. Double edged sword if you are trying to hold onto your gems.
 
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