Fury is the best skill for almost every unit.
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Fury is the best skill for almost every unit.
on that subject, if skill inheritance carries over the star level requirements, then Hinata is gonna become one of the most wanted characters for infusion. He learns Fury 3 at 4*.
TheRedSnifit
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I'm looking forward to giving Baruka skills that don't suck.
Technoweirdo
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Ready. :|
Wonder if I can give Glacies or Vengeance to a healer. Already planning on Hone Cavalry and Fury if possible for some FURIOUS HEALS. lol
Team Elise here. Only benefit of being at the bottom is that it's easy to rank high in the points rank without doing anything.
Lucina is overrated.
yeah, the Lucina zerg is burning its flags like crazy. I used 100 early on so I'm around 12,500 points but at this rate I'm still going to fall into the 100k rank. Just gonna save the rest of mine for the final.
Holly shit. Just realized that too; now I regret sending the numerous 3* Hinatas home.... I should have gotten Fury 3 on all of my 4 mains
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But the folks that picked Lucina are going to have a very hard time getting ranked at all right? It's all about the feathers .
Sharena is always neutral btw. It depends on your team btw. Without that info, honestly Sharena, Nowi or Corrin may be good picks. I think Corrin's -Spd might hurt her in the long run though, so probably one of the other 2.
.Sharena is always neutral btw. It depends on your team btw. Without that info, honestly Sharena, Nowi or Corrin may be good picks. I think Corrin's -Spd might hurt her in the long run though, so probably one of the other 2.
I privileged my 3*Jagen over my 4*Sully and he is so bad I can't level him up in the tower correctly. He can only kill red mage and healer basically.
I've noticed that the 'friend' unit it gives me is almost always the same. I have only ever manually added two people, my friend who got me into the game (curse him) and one person from this thread. So I wonder if it's prioritizing them. It's definitely giving me my friend's Lucina, we checked the stats. The other unit I tend to get is a Julia who has come in handy many times. Maybe it's just picking who is at the top of the friends list?
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This week is rough for me as well. On my more mature account the only bonus character I have is F Robin who can't kill anything even with Eirika buffing her. So I'm over here playing four dimensional chess maneuvering everyone seeing where I can sneak hits in while the AI is playing checkers.
On my other account I have good bonus characters, but I am still trying to level people up.
But the folks that picked Lucina are going to have a very hard time getting ranked at all right? It's all about the feathers
Assuming that every hero's army is using flags in more-or-less the same way, it appears that about 1/3 of people are on Team Lucina right now. I say this because I'm rank 15k in that team and rank 46k overall. It's true that you get fewer feathers when you're on a more popular team, but you also win more rounds. The average team other than Lucina's will have about 30% as many people as hers. The average winning team in the first round will have somewhat more than that. I'm not sure if there's a round 1 match where both heroes are significantly less popular than the average non-Lucina. Possibly Ephraim vs Leo?
Someone with my score on Team Alphonse would presumably be something like top 5k. But note that I get 500 extra feathers for Lucina beating Sharena. So my top 30k position is still getting me 100 feathers more in total, and only 100 less even if that score is sufficient for top 1k on Team Alphonse. If you're not competing for top 1k or 5k on whatever loser team you're on then you're definitely better off on Team Lucina.
The feather-maximizing strategy was probably to go with the most popular hero on the left side of the bracket, so that you pocket 1000 feathers from round wins before getting crushed in the final. Chrom, I assume, though maybe Japanese people like Ephraim. That gives you three rounds on a somewhat less popular team to make up the 500 feather loss in the finals. You probably do okay picking someone who's going to get knocked out in the semis - you can just switch to Lucina for the final anyway.
Also note that it will get harder and harder to get a good in-army rank as the rounds go on, because with fewer heroes there will be more people per hero. Let's say that your rank is multiplied by 1.5 each round, figuring that 1/3 of people sided with losing heroes. This makes it very hard to place in later rounds, and since the difference between a 10k-30k finish and a >100k finish is only 400 feathers, being on the winning team after round 1 is huge. Lucina needs to have 10x as many people as the other hero in the finals in order for the typical person on the other team to compete in feathers.
Edit: I've just talked myself into spending more than a proportional share of flags on round 1 to try to get top 10k, since it's going to be a lot harder to place well in later rounds.
I'm disgusted. Real shame. Oh well. 😐
I had 40 orbs, and got myself all hyped up to try to get Eirika or Lucina. I ended up pulling a 5 star Leo. Wrong banner -_-. I guess now all I need is a 5 star Xander (whenever he becomes available) and I would have the full Nohr sibling 5 star collection. Don't hype yourself up guys.
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See, what complicates your analysis is that people might have burned through too many flags and/or are saving them for the final, meaning the semis might actually be the best opportunity.
How good is merging heroes? I got a dupe Lucina and I think she has a poor IV, though I don't remember exactly what she has.
Is it worth merging her into my totally neutral IV Lucina, or should I keep the dupe in case I ever want to do some sort of silly double Lucina team?
Is it worth merging her into my totally neutral IV Lucina, or should I keep the dupe in case I ever want to do some sort of silly double Lucina team?
Mainly I figure that some people are doing each of these things. An important consideration for the ranking systems in this game is that Nintendo was clearly not expecting as many players as they got. There are many more than 100k players on Team Lucina alone. A relatively small number of people who hold their feathers for the final make it basically impossible to place well in the final unless you do the same thing, so competing for placement in the final is probably a mistake. It's true that possibly some people got overexcited and used a lot of flags in the first round. But by the same token it's possible that people will burn extra flags in the semis because that's when they'll notice that it's much harder to place than it was in the first round because suddenly they're on teams with many more people. So I suspect it's basically a wash. My current plan is to spend about half of my flags in each of the first two rounds.
It's not really a big deal because you always end up with more skill points than you need, even if you don't level to 40 before ranking up. I've never seen a case where I hit 40 before maxing out all of a unit's skills.
Your character continues to get SP on kills even after hitting level 40 too, so even if you do hit 40 before buying everything, you should be able to afford everything eventually.
some of my 5* units needed more SP after maxing. Lucina and Lyn both have 500SP skills, specifically. But I don't think I even want Aether, it takes 5 turns and the healing would rarely be more useful than simply being able to do that big hit more often.
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Shouldn't be a problem for the vast majority of characters. Plus even if you're short on SP when at lvl 40 5*, you get SP for killing enemies (like 3 or so per enemy) in the worst case. I have plenty of characters with tons of leftover SP.
Oh. But you were able to get SP after hitting 40 just from kills, right?
And you're right about Aether. I bought Aether on my Lucina, but eventually swapped back to her 3-turn ability because most matches are over before she fights 5 times anyway.
If I wanted healing, I can usually just stall and let Falchion regen her.
Thanks.
Didn't know about gaining SP even after 40 (Probably because SP currently is not an issue at all since you can easily buy every skill with the SP).
Speaking of which I have 0 blue characters or magic characters and about to rank up M Robin. Is he worth it?
of course. I have units with thousands of SP from kills and nothing to use it on yet. Robin will probably get my first skill inheritance because he's rolling in SP due to carrying me through every single arena match.
It's even worse than I thought, lol. Since even weapons will be inheritable, the rich get richer and bad characters stay losing. There already wasn't much of a reason to use Odin, but now he's just total fodder for characters like Linde.
Pejo
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Thanks!
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How's a +Spd, -Res Linde btw?
Also -Atk, +Def Eirika? Looks like Eirika would get a whopping 30 DEF.... so she becomes a tanky support unit? 39 ATK is kind of crappy though.
My alt accounts have a lot of luck. My main account has like none lol (haven't pulled a single 5* since +Att Takumi in my starting roll).
Also I think this account needs some more red swords right?
Also -Atk, +Def Eirika? Looks like Eirika would get a whopping 30 DEF
.... so she becomes a tanky support unit? 39 ATK is kind of crappy though.My alt accounts have a lot of luck. My main account has like none lol (haven't pulled a single 5* since +Att Takumi in my starting roll).
Also I think this account needs some more red swords right?
</sarcasm>
Seriously though what does this account need? I presume a good green or colorless right? Would Anna work?
It is said in the event description that You can join other winnings team if your team has lost; you can't if your team has won. Makes perfect sense though.
Diablohead
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in before everyone gets second turn regen and double attacks on every unit.
That Linde is really good. +Atk - Res is probably the best but +Spd -Res could be a close second just to make sure she ORKO even the faster red lords.
That Eirika isn't ideal like you have said but she's likely just a buff bot for you anyway (given that you already have Lucina who is way superior combat wise) so you might as well enjoy her improved survivability for perfect arena runs.
You just need Nino to make you life complete.
I imagine Linde would be great with +Spd since she already has high speed to begin with. She'll probably double everyone and other people would struggle to double her.How's a +Spd, -Res Linde btw?
Also -Atk, +Def Eirika? Looks like Eirika would get a whopping 30 DEF
My alt accounts have a lot of luck. My main account has like none lol (haven't pulled a single 5* since +Att Takumi in my starting roll).
Also I think this account needs some more red swords right?</sarcasm>
Seriously though what does this account need? I presume a good green or colorless right? Would Anna work?
Not sure about Eirika, but she's probably still useful since her main value is in her buffing other units rather than fighting herself.
I really want a Linde
So I get to take an L on team Eirika next round.
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I imagine Linde would be great with +Spd since she already has high speed to begin with. She'll probably double everyone and other people would struggle to double her.
Not sure about Eirika, but she's probably still useful since her main value is in her buffing other units rather than fighting herself.
I really want a Linde
Thanks folks! Hopefully you'll get one Akuun!
I haven't been following inheritance stuff - can we gift certain skills to other characters, e.g., can I gave Lucinda Hector's range counter-attack? That would be... pretty crazy.
Ryoma is pretty much that, isn't he?
SenorArdilla
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Unique weapons aren't transferable, right?
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No Bow Pegasus either?
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No Bow Pegasus either?
I've actually upgraded my Jagen to 4* just for the arena. Arena bonus characters are there to stay for 2 weeks, and the stats differences between 3* and 4* Jagen is quite significant (he gets Furry 2 at 4*). With 3* Jagen my perfect run score would be just below 4500, there's a really dangerous place to be if you want to break the top 10K rank. With 4* Jagen I should be safe to stay within top 10K. That's 500 difference in feathers rewards. For 2 weeks that adds up to 1000. So I basically recoup 50% of my investment right away. Plus I will probably upgrade him to 5* in the future anyway just to inherit Furry 3.
Yes, he's not easy to train, mostly feeding on red mages and healers like you said (he can also take on red swords though, if you have a healer to babysit him during tower training). However, I find his Fortify Res 2 also quite valuable to my Nino during arena battles so I actually will not complain.
I seriously doubt you can inherit weapons across colors (red, blue, green, colorless) or types (physical, tome, dragon stone). Of course, we can only be sure when Mar 16th comes.
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