Watching that and coming back to a thread calling the performance "terrible" in the headline is jarring. Not deserving of that kind of criticism.
Firewatch's PS4 performance is terrible
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Watching that and coming back to a thread calling the performance "terrible" in the headline is jarring. Not deserving of that kind of criticism.
WickedLaharl
Member
how about just 'lower', & leave it at that? i've been playing video/computer games since the '80's, & i've always been willing to cut developers some slack if, despite the technical flaws, i can still manage to have a good time. the fact of the matter is, some of us are just nowhere near as sensitive when it comes to this stuff as others...
That's fair.
I mean i have the platinum in Fallout 4 but i would never ever try to convince someone that the framerate is anything other than terrible.
Why didn't they work on this patch and complete it before releasing the game? This is a digital release. There was no deadline to start pressing discs or anything.
a game being made by a small team justifies poor performance? I'll let the guy who made Dust know he needn't have bothered putting in so much effort.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Has Unity traditionally not played nice with PS4? I know UE3 wasn't great on PS3.
Steve McQueen
Member
Performance is poor sometimes and a steady 30 fps would be great, but it's definitely playable.
I hope the performance issues are not putting people off....it's an amazing game despite the issues.
I did not play Life is Strange until recently because of the so called bad lipsync issues...tbh, it did not bother me one bit when playing. The great story sucked me in and the same thing happened with Firewatch.
I hope the performance issues are not putting people off....it's an amazing game despite the issues.
I did not play Life is Strange until recently because of the so called bad lipsync issues...tbh, it did not bother me one bit when playing. The great story sucked me in and the same thing happened with Firewatch.
do you straight-up will your personal enjoyment into correlating with how indie-cred a game is?
how does that work, exactly?
Diprosalic
Banned
i played a bit on my mates PC and it felt fine in 60 and then i went home to buy the PS4 version and it felt bad.
Noooo...it's much worse
Hmm, I'm getting rock solid 60fps here on the PC. 5820k + GTX780.
MegaSackman
Member
Second crash, I think I'm through the middle of the game. Is fantastic by the way but yeah, it runs pretty bad on PS4.
Firecrashed - No Spoilers
Firecrashed - No Spoilers
Aces&Eights
Member
I love games that are butter smooth but its not a deal breaker for me. Crashing my precious and making me unplug it to turn it back on is.
Hope this gets sorted out.
Edit: at above: NOPE. Not even going to think about installing this until that shit gets fixed.
Hope this gets sorted out.
Edit: at above: NOPE. Not even going to think about installing this until that shit gets fixed.
dead monkey uk
Member
Yeah agree with this, you only have one chance to make a first impression. I can understand an online game having unexpected performance issues on release, but Firewatch's issues must have been widely known by the developers. At least lock it at 30fps.
wild wild rice
Member
The lines between AAA and indie are starting to blur.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Theme isn't fucking available in Australia yet. Gutted.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
The video doesn't make it seem too bad. I wasn't actually all that bothered by framerate in Abe's Oddysee on PS4, and that was kind of this way too, being again made in Unity. I'd imagine in a game where there's no action it will be even less of an issue.
Or I'll find out for myself, and if it's unacceptable I'll bitch to customer service and get a refund.
Being an informed consumer is great, but we can't start implying that people are stupid for being excited to play a game day one.
AgentOtaku
Member
At this point we don't need a AAA/Indie category anymore. Games will now be split up into "Runs like shit/Doesn't Run like Shit" groups.
Disappointing to hear these issues from that game.
MegaSackman
Member
As far as I know, every review called the bad performance on PS4 so, we are guilty too. I don't mind, the game is great, I just wish it'd run better but I'm paying more attention to the story and atmosphere, it's just a bother when it crashes but it's been only twice so far.
Diprosalic
Banned
the video is capped at 30, the game isn't. it doesn't show you the real picture.
all purchases are final on PSN. they don't have to give you a refund and bitching for hours is not exactly something i'm looking forward too.
Aces&Eights
Member
Its called pecedence though. If you went to Chipotle after watching the news about the E-coli outbreak, you can't then go on GAF and complain that youre sick. Sure, you're hungry but if something is known to cause you problems its best to wait and verify the product had been fixed, no?
GinoFelino
Member
Not at all! Some were bothered by its performance (nothing new there), which is why I was quite clear how much worse this is
It's an indie game, and sometimes shit just doesn't go as planned. That said, I don't think they're doing their game justice by releasing it in this form.
It might be 'playable', but only literally.
I've not seen a game run worse on PS4, and I've seen many run poorly.
bananafactory
Banned
From Twitter
It was perfectly fine for me on PC.
Yeah, I stopped looking around (which is a shame because the game is gorgeous) because the judder just from turning around gave me a headache. I did finish the game and really enjoyed the story, but my experience was definitely marred by the unlocked frame rate and hitching.
BinaryBear07
Member
Looks like I am just buying the theme now.
Gormenghast
Member
Has Unity ever played fine on something?
It's just good for development, not good as an engine or to have good overall performance.
Middleware always leads to tradeoffs.
Doctor Ironic
Member
I'd argue it's more ridiculous to expect an indie game to be a technical powerhouse.
Freeman76
Member
Quit trolling, this isnt overblown nonsense, try playing it before you talk shit.
Movalpolos
Banned
Oh so this is made with Unity?
That explains it.
That explains it.
outunderthestars
Banned
finalflame
Banned
What boggles my mind is how the developers clearly PLAYED the game on PS4 and were fully aware of these issues, but didn't bother to spend enough time polishing them out. It's not like Campo Santo is a huge studio with publisher demands and a dedicated, abstracted QA team. My guess is the game was QA'd by the very people who made it, and yet they still release it in this state.
Kind of abhorrent, really. I bought the game anyways, but I will wait until a patch to play it.
Kind of abhorrent, really. I bought the game anyways, but I will wait until a patch to play it.
Summer Haze
Banned
Who is expecting that?
ryanofcall
Member
Oh why didn't I check NeoGAF before buying it. Should I wait for a patch, or is it not worse than fallout 4 (because I was allright with that)?
Some people*
Played 40+ hours of it any never got motion sickness at all. Performance wise, The Witness is pretty damn solid save for some rare screen tearing here and there.
Yeah good luck with that. Playstation support is terrible and who knows if you end up getting your profile locked or something like that. It's not easy getting your money back from Sony. I think people are stupid when they are preordering and buying games before they know how they run and especially after. If you buy games that run this bad, then you can't ever bitch about other games that run badly. There is just no excuse for games to run this badly.
It's literally one line of code too
Code:
Application.targetFrameRate = 30;
chris121580
Member
It definitely stuttered quite a bit during my play through and crashed once but it honestly did not distract from my enjoyment of the game at all
Gormenghast
Member
If performance is the issue then there's not much you can do, since you don't write the engine.
They can only optimize assets or reduce graphic, and then it's a struggle with whatever the art direction wants to deliver.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Ori and the Blind forest and Max Curse of Brotherhood were both pretty solid overall.
Yey...a normal person response!
Tbh i had no issues with the way oddworld performed either...or the witcher...or bloodborne....or fallout...i think i'll be fine.
MarineMountie
Member
Meh. Im loving the game even with some framerate issues. Glad i didnt hold off.
Unity is a great and fantastic engine to work with. However, yes it does have it flaws. I never worked on it on a ps4 so i can't really say much about that.
I do however suspect that the engine is not very well optimized for open world games like this.
But at the same time...it does feel kinda lazy for the developer to just say "Naww its not our fault"
Something is obviously causing this, this doesn't just happen for no apparent reason.
Maybe you render to many trees, particles at the same time? Maybe your draw distance is to big? Too many Update calls? Something with the collision detection?
I do however suspect that the engine is not very well optimized for open world games like this.
But at the same time...it does feel kinda lazy for the developer to just say "Naww its not our fault"
Something is obviously causing this, this doesn't just happen for no apparent reason.
Maybe you render to many trees, particles at the same time? Maybe your draw distance is to big? Too many Update calls? Something with the collision detection?
Im surprised Unity havent made steps at minimising these issues as it doesnt seem to be a new thing with ambitious Unity games on consoles (and PC too really).
Considering how competitive engine pricing has become it wont take long for some devs just to move from Unity to other engines like UE4.
ps3ud0 8)
Considering how competitive engine pricing has become it wont take long for some devs just to move from Unity to other engines like UE4.
ps3ud0 8)