TheWrathOfSean
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Ahh man, sounds like he did it! Really hope Dune doesn't fall through.
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First Blade Runner 2049 impressions
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tonysidaway
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But on the bright side, most of us will be around for 2019. On the other hand, it's not as if Blade Runner was pitched as literal future history.
Add to that, the first editions of Dick's 1968 novel set Deckard's pursuit of Batty and company in a post-apocalyptic 1992, in a recognisable but somewhat depopulated San Francisco. It's not always very appropriate to get hung up on dates in SF.
You should do that regardless of Blade Runner 2049.
Inferno313
Banned
I still need to catch Enemy and Incendies, but I think Sicario and Arrival are head-and-shoulders above Prisoners. I saw Prisoners, liked it, but didn't really jump on the Villenuve bandwagon until Sicario. Prisoners is an impeccably made film, but I felt that the script and "everything is connected" nature of the narrative felt a little too silly and pulpy given the heavy nature of the material.
Bruh. No
you do not feel that del Toro's character in Sicario is "silly and pulpy given the heavy nature of the material" ?
Inferno313
Banned
I think that's a valid criticism, but at the same time, my subjective opinion is that no it did not rub me the same way with that particular film. *shrugs*
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think all of Villeneuve's films are very good at their worst.
Vault Dweller 111
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Yeah, his "worst" is Enemy and that was still great. Not many filmmakers who their worst is still great.
Why do you feel that Enemy is his worst?
Sicario > Prisoners > Enemy >>>>> Arrival
I didn't really like Arrival much. The direction and cinematography was fine but I had big issues with the script and story.
RavenSan
Off-Site Inflammatory Member
Jumping in here
I liked Sicario, and didn't care all that much for Arrival. (Didn't think it was bad, by any means, just not what I was expecting, per se)
Should I watch Enemy/Prisoners/etc before Blade Runner?
(I know they're obviously not connected, but just wondering if they're worth my time)
I liked Sicario, and didn't care all that much for Arrival. (Didn't think it was bad, by any means, just not what I was expecting, per se)
Should I watch Enemy/Prisoners/etc before Blade Runner?
(I know they're obviously not connected, but just wondering if they're worth my time)
Prisoners is great. Enemy you can skip.
if you want to see them, then you should because they are definitely worth your time. No need to squeeze them in before Blade Runner.
I genuinely don't understand the hate for Enemy. It's easily his most interesting film imo.
More_Badass
Member
Prisoners is great. Watch Enemy if you like Kafka and/or weird psychological symbolism-heavy thrillers
Chained Prometheus
Member
Enemy is one of Villeneuve's best films. It just happens to also be more of an acquired taste compared to his other works, due to the Lynch/Kafka-esque nature of the film.
Mister0079
Member
Sicario = Prisoners > Enemy > Arrival
I was really let down by Arrival after reading all the positive reviews and already having been a fan of Villeneuve. It didn't do anything for me.
need to watch Incendies
I was really let down by Arrival after reading all the positive reviews and already having been a fan of Villeneuve. It didn't do anything for me.
need to watch Incendies
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Where the hell are the soundtrack preview cues
Uh, I found it to be the other way. Incendies deals with some dark material.
Yes it does. And Prisoners deals with child murder.
If you switched Enemy with Incendies, we would be in agreement. In general, Incendies, Prisoners and Enemy are wonderful films.
I suppose it depends on what gets you emotionally going.
The bus scene and the rape material are rough stuff.
This. So much this.
Cincinnati. But a google search indicated that there are several other Dolby Cinema screens out there with the red cast problem. Search "dolby cinema red aisle lighting screen" and you'll find this is a problem being reported at several locations (but not all).
If the theater has red aisle lighting in the front of the hall there should be a horizontal black matte at the bottom of the screen to prevent the red cast, but it doesn't seem they are doing this.
I saw GotG2 and the bottom third of the screen had a red cast, very visible in every dark scene, will never return to that auditorium. You can't unsee it.
Here's an even worse example than my local one. Some poor bloke paid extra to see Wonder Woman in Dolby Cinema and this is what he got for his money!
I know a theater like this (leaves the lights on the stairs), but at least the lights aren't colored red lol.
It's kind of mind-boggling that no one talks about the music either in the interviews or from the twitter impressions.
The only thing I got is that they are using the same instruments from the first movie. Villeneuve said that as much as he wanted to be free (creatively) from the original movie, the sound and music were one of the elements that he insisted being reminiscent and very familiar to the first movie.
https://youtu.be/G-B10rmUs9Q?t=6m49s
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I just found out that checking Water Tower music is the wrong call. WB is distributing the film stateside, but it seems like the soundtrack is coming out on Sony/Epic, not WB/Water Tower.
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2017/09/27/epic-records-to-release-blade-runner-2049-soundtrack/
You can pre-order some sort of limited edition here. Digital version gets unlocked on the 6th.
https://bladerunner2049.shop.musictoday.com/store/
http://filmmusicreporter.com/2017/09/27/epic-records-to-release-blade-runner-2049-soundtrack/
You can pre-order some sort of limited edition here. Digital version gets unlocked on the 6th.
https://bladerunner2049.shop.musictoday.com/store/
Maybe my perspective on Incendies is affected by
the events of the film largely taking place in the past and knowing that their mother survives them. In contrast, there's an immediacy to the events of Prisoners.
I'm just glad you agree that Enemy fucking ruled
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
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My birthday is on the 9th, and the film is out on the 6th. So I guessed that would make one hell of a birthday present, right? Nope. In my area the film will be out on the 20th :/ Oh well...
Frustrated_me
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Incendies > Sicario > Arrival > Prisoners > Enemy
And I loved Enemy.
And I loved Enemy.
AdventureRacing
Member
This is where I stand. It's pointless trying to list them in order for me because they're all so damn good and I'd probably just keep changing my mind.
Final Cut
Extra Sauce
Member
I don't know if I agree with the rest but the fact that you ranked Enemy first and derivative, hand-holding Arrival last makes you good people in my book.
Inferno313
Banned
Any of them. Final Cut is probably the best bet though, that or Director's.
(They're basically the same cut, Final Cut is a slightly touched-up version of the Director's Cut)
Haloid1177
Banned
This thread has reminded me that I bought Incendies on Bluray forever ago and still haven't watched it. Need to get on that.
Incendies > Sicario > Arrival > Prisoners > Enemy
And I loved Enemy.
Lucky!
I don't think that's too crazy. Ridley has always been inconsistent (imo). Lots of clunkers in his filmography.
But I'm not sure Villeneuve has made anything as important as Alien or Blade Runner yet.
And of course part of that is just the passage of time with those films and the mythologizing that comes with that, but I think both hold up pretty damn well as sci-fi classics.
Screaming Meat
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Oh really? Tell me more...
Best you don't know any more. Just see it, takes like 2 hours.
Enemy is fantastic. I'm a sucker for anything that could be a Twilight Zone episode though.
death ship is my fav TZ ep