First Castlevania DS scans

Is the DS really that much better than the GBA when it comes to music? I've seen some videos and at best it sounds about N64-like quality
 
Finally a game is announced for the DS that I'm actually interested in. :) The price better drop though cuz the DS is not worth what it's priced at right now, especially with the PSP price point being what it is.
 
jett said:
Is the DS really that much better than the GBA when it comes to music? I've seen some videos and at best it sounds about N64-like quality

Fafalada once explained how the DS could pull off better than SOTN graphics while having just as good a soundtrack. Don't remember the details though.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Faf.
 
wobedraggled said:
More animation, we have yet to see this in motion

gfx whores are ruining gaming
The sprite looks exactly the same as the GBA sprite, though. I love the SotN-style Castlevania series and there's no way I won't enjoy this game when it does come out, but I don't think it's unfair to expect more from a new generation of hardware.
 
Drawing spells in mid battle with the stylus would be ridiculous and, frankly, impractical. Just as well it's limited to a boss gimmick.

I guess they could use the mic and some basic voice recog software. Having to constantly bark obscure spell names aloud might look silly on the train tho.
 
Takuan said:
The sprite looks exactly the same as the GBA sprite, though. I love the SotN-style Castlevania series and there's no way I won't enjoy this game when it does come out, but I don't think it's unfair to expect more from a new generation of hardware.

It really doesn't though. Compare Soma in those new pics (if you saved them... I did :D) to the AOS pics posted in the 2nd or 3rd page. Soma looks more detailed in this new game.
 
Mama Smurf said:
Those aren't spells, not really anyway. After fighting a boss and and "defeating" it, you have to watch a pentagram form and then use the stylus to do it the same way after. If you succeed, the boss dies. If you fail, it regains some health and the fight continues.

I'm not getting into the fight about this looking like Aria of Sorrow again, go into the EGM scores thread if you want to see how wrong you are.

Please tell me this isn't true. I bought a DS for Castlevania, but there's no way I'm drawing a pentagram. Does anyone know if it says that in the article?
 
MadOdorMachine said:
Please tell me this isn't true. I bought a DS for Castlevania, but there's no way I'm drawing a pentagram. Does anyone know if it says that in the article?

The pentagram's origins are actually not satanic. I wouldn't feel too bad about it.
 
MadOdorMachine said:
Please tell me this isn't true. I bought a DS for Castlevania, but there's no way I'm drawing a pentagram. Does anyone know if it says that in the article?

Funniest post of the year :lol
 
MadOdorMachine said:
Please tell me this isn't true. I bought a DS for Castlevania, but there's no way I'm drawing a pentagram. Does anyone know if it says that in the article?

Heh. Dude, no offense, but if you're playing a Castlevania game you should be worried about a lot more things than just a pentagram. If we're going to be anal about it, there is a lot of pagan/santanic/demonized imagery in a Castlevania game. If you're worried about such a thing maybe it's not the type of game you should be participating in.

evilromero said:
And as far as the music goes, I'm pretty confident with the DS' capabilities. I would honestly except music on par with SotN, compositionally and concering the quality of the instruments/midi. I don't think there's any reason to think that the PSP would offer a greater leap in music quality (just marginal, more space). The DS has already wow'd me with its deep bass and clear rich music.

No, see, the PSP definitely... no, strike that, without a doubt has way, way superior audio capabilities. This is also not a comparrison. However, the DS is at the level where we will be able to listen to robust soundtracks in games and not be reasonably annoyed. For any technophile/audiophile, though, it's not even in the same realm.
 
RE4 vs. SH4 said:
The pentagram's origins are actually not satanic. I wouldn't feel too bad about it.

Actually it's a hexagon and it is demonic. I'll pass on this game. It's a shame they've done this to such a fantastic series. The graphics look good, but I refuse to play a game that has Satanism in it. The idea of letting someone else besides Iga make a Castlevania game's not a bad idea considering the direction he's taking the series. I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but seriously, if you're interested in playing this game, do a little bit of research on hexagrams or demonic/satanic symbols. It's nothing to take lightly.
 
Rei_Toei said:
Praise the lord for good 'ole Dan Brown.

I've done some study into paganism and Wicca. I dunno about Dan Brown, but I'm kinda sick of hearing about the Davinci Code.

Actually it's a hexagon and it is demonic. I'll pass on this game. It's a shame they've done this to such a fantastic series. The graphics look good, but I refuse to play a game that has Satanism in it. The idea of letting someone else besides Iga make a Castlevania game's not a bad idea considering the direction he's taking the series. I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but seriously, if you're interested in playing this game, do a little bit of research on hexagrams or demonic/satanic symbols. It's nothing to take lightly.

No, it isn't. I suggest you do some research of your own.
 
Takuan said:
The sprite looks exactly the same as the GBA sprite, though. I love the SotN-style Castlevania series and there's no way I won't enjoy this game when it does come out, but I don't think it's unfair to expect more from a new generation of hardware.

If you're talking about Soma's sprite then you're blind.
 
MadOdorMachine said:
Actually it's a hexagon and it is demonic. I'll pass on this game. It's a shame they've done this to such a fantastic series. The graphics look good, but I refuse to play a game that has Satanism in it. The idea of letting someone else besides Iga make a Castlevania game's not a bad idea considering the direction he's taking the series. I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but seriously, if you're interested in playing this game, do a little bit of research on hexagrams or demonic/satanic symbols. It's nothing to take lightly.

All of Castlevania is filled with satanic/demonic/pagan imagery. Where have you been? And why are you just now coming to this conclusion that you should pass if it's something that is offensive to you?
 
Amir0x said:
All of Castlevania is filled with satanic/demonic/pagan imagery. Where have you been? And why are you just now coming to this conclusion that you should pass if it's something that is offensive to you?

I agree. This thread takes the cake...
 
RE4: I was just kidding, it was just the first thing that popped into my mind after reading it, lots of people spreading their newfound knowlegde after reading the Da Vinci Code thesedays.
 
Amir0x said:
Heh. Dude, no offense, but if you're playing a Castlevania game you should be worried about a lot more things than just a pentagram. If we're going to be anal about it, there is a lot of pagan/santanic/demonized imagery in a Castlevania game. If you're worried about such a thing maybe it's not the type of game you should be participating in.

You're right. As a fan of the series I've been willing to overlook certain aspects the series has taken on. I thought collecting souls in AoS was pushing it, but I draw the line at drawing out satanic symbols. That's taking it too far for me. The series has changed quite a bit. It's one of my favorite series and I'm disappointed it's turned out like this.
 
MadOdorMachine said:
You're right. As a fan of the series I've been willing to overlook certain aspects the series has taken on. I thought collecting souls in AoS was pushing it, but I draw the line at drawing out satanic symbols. That's taking it too far for me. The series has changed quite a bit. It's one of my favorite series and I'm disappointed it's turned out like this.
Oh, no. You collected souls in AoS? I spoke to my local minister regarding that particular gameplay implementation. Apparently it is quite dangerous and can consequently have God condemn you to hell, where you will be tortured for eternity. Needless to say, I kept my distance!
 
MadOdorMachine said:
You're right. As a fan of the series I've been willing to overlook certain aspects the series has taken on. I thought collecting souls in AoS was pushing it, but I draw the line at drawing out satanic symbols. That's taking it too far for me. The series has changed quite a bit. It's one of my favorite series and I'm disappointed it's turned out like this.

I understand, I'm Christian myself. I myself don't find these things offensive as I feel they're just arbitrary events in "make believe" productions I use for entertainment. In other words, they don't follow me into my life and I make sure it doesn't. I can understand how it would be offensive to someone who is trying to stay on the right track, however. I just think that if it's something you're really feeling guilty about you should perhaps take a second look at the series and just ignore it as a whole. You know, it's just something that crosses the line over and over again in terms of demonic symbolism.

That's my POV though. I respect your position.

Socreges said:
Oh, no. You collected souls in AoS? I spoke to my local minister regarding that particular gameplay implementation. Apparently it is quite dangerous and can consequently have God condemn you to hell, where you will be tortured for eternity. Needless to say, I kept my distance!

That's really not right to mock his religious beliefs. In fact, I find that offensive. Respect his position as I am sure he respects your own.
 
Socreges said:
Oh, no. You collected souls in AoS? I spoke to my local minister regarding that particular gameplay implementation. Apparently it is quite dangerous and can consequently have God condemn you to hell, where you will be tortured for eternity. Needless to say, I kept my distance!

:lol didn't you used cursed books in HoD as well?

Oh and there have been a lot of devil equipment to wear in past castlevanias. Devil's mail etc. I fail to see how this is any worse?
 
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This kind of thing is nothing new to the series. :p
 
jiji said:
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This kind of thing is nothing new to the series. :p

I agree 100%. And nice pictures to represent this point. If you are offended by such imagery I have no idea why you would play it, but that's just me :P
 
RE4 vs. SH4 said:
I've done some study into paganism and Wicca. I dunno about Dan Brown, but I'm kinda sick of hearing about the Davinci Code.



No, it isn't. I suggest you do some research of your own.
I have done some research

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Hexagrams -- Also known as the Seal of Solomon -- Definition --

Two interlocking reversed triangles. "...proficient magicians regard the Seal as one 9of the most powerful and meaningful of all magical symbols. This explains why it is found in such diverse sources as grimoires designed to set out the supposed rules of demonic conjuration (Fig. 69) and magical spells designed for enchantment (Fig. 70). Hexagrams are also known as "Demon Traps" when they are surrounded with a circle. (See figure 70). When a witch wants to conjure a demon she draws a 9-foot circle on the ground. Then she draws a hexagram inside. Then by pronouncing the proper formulas she can force a demon to appear within the circle. As long as she stayed inside the circle the demon could not hurt her and must do her bidding. If the witch stepped one foot outside the protective circle the demon would kill.
 
MadOdorMachine said:
I have done some research

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Hexagrams -- Also known as the Seal of Solomon -- Definition --

Two interlocking reversed triangles. "...proficient magicians regard the Seal as one 9of the most powerful and meaningful of all magical symbols. This explains why it is found in such diverse sources as grimoires designed to set out the supposed rules of demonic conjuration (Fig. 69) and magical spells designed for enchantment (Fig. 70). Hexagrams are also known as "Demon Traps" when they are surrounded with a circle. (See figure 70). When a witch wants to conjure a demon she draws a 9-foot circle on the ground. Then she draws a hexagram inside. Then by pronouncing the proper formulas she can force a demon to appear within the circle. As long as she stayed inside the circle the demon could not hurt her and must do her bidding. If the witch stepped one foot outside the protective circle the demon would kill.

You really didn't have to do research. Even if the origin of the Hexagram isn't demonic, the games intention is obviously sinister because that fits in with that game world. It's a world filled with such things :P
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not planning on drawing a hexagram in a nine foot circle on the ground. Just a little one inch one on the screen of the DS. I think I'll be safe...
 
SantaCruZer said:
:lol didn't you used cursed books in HoD as well?

Oh and there have been a lot of devil equipment to wear in past castlevanias. Devil's mail etc. I fail to see how this is any worse?

As i said I was willing to overlook certain things before but this game actually has you drawing these symbols. It's one thing to see it, you see it on a dollar bill, but it's another thing to draw it. There's nothing wrong with a Belmont using a cross to fight evil. In fact, that's one of the main reasons I find the series so appealing. The series has become more graphic over the years and I overlooked that because it is something you see every day. I'm just saying there is a difference between seeing something it and drawing it. When I first heard about Castlevania DS, I imagined they would use the touch screen for equiping items/inventory.
 
MadOdorMachine said:
As i said I was willing to overlook certain things before but this game actually has you drawing these symbols. It's one thing to see it, you see it on a dollar bill, but it's another thing to draw it. There's nothing wrong with a Belmont using a cross to fight evil. In fact, that's one of the main reasons I find the series so appealing. The series has become more graphic over the years and I overlooked that because it is something you see every day. I'm just saying there is a difference between seeing something it and drawing it. When I first heard about Castlevania DS, I imagined they would use the touch screen for equiping items/inventory.

but if you draw this to seal the evil. Isn't that the same thing as using a cross to fight evil? I dunno.
 
heavy liquid said:
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not planning on drawing a hexagram in a nine foot circle on the ground. Just a little one inch one on the screen of the DS. I think I'll be safe...

Don't you know? The only true way to experience Castlevania DevilSatan is to play it while standing in the middle of a 9 foot hexagram that's drawn out of blood(can't forget to draw one on the ceiling!!), with 666 candles in the room. My DS will be tricked out with a Pentagram made out of carved human bones that I will have glued onto the top of it.

It's the only way to play!
 
Madodormachine - your selective research is in line with the very worst of christian tradition.

These symbols have been around for thousands of years and there are many different interpretations. You chose to link to definition of a hexagram from a pagan website, which is obviously going to claim some kind of demonic affiliation, when infact many religions define the hexagram as a symbol of unity and truth.

Try this:

http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefshexagram.htm

http://www.peter-buswell.com/Library/hexagram.htm

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/27/2722.html
 
You chose to link to definition of a hexagram from a pagan website, which is obviously going to claim some kind of demonic affiliation

Not necessarily. Only in the modern day, most used meaning of pagan.
 
All I'm gonna say is I'm not too keen on having to draw out the symbols, myself...though what really annoys me about this game is that it's a GBA game with an ever-present Automap...um...wow?

Here's hoping the music and other audio kicks ass and the game is fairly long
 
Wario64 said:
I only remembered 1 track that sounded like 'techno club like' music. It's been a while though

LoI's soundtrack was still great from what I remember
Anti-soul Mysteries Lab
Damn fine music if you ask me. Infact, I'ma go find that song right now.
 
Frankly I think some of you folks are far to sensitive, you people and your retarded values are whats ruining the US.


I'm going to have fun playing a VIDEOGAME when castlevania comes out myself. It's folks like this that make me hate all religous people.
 
Vibri said:
Madodormachine - your selective research is in line with the very worst of christian tradition.

These symbols have been around for thousands of years and there are many different interpretations. You chose to link to definition of a hexagram from a pagan website, which is obviously going to claim some kind of demonic affiliation, when infact many religions define the hexagram as a symbol of unity and truth.

Try this:

http://altreligion.about.com/library/glossary/symbols/bldefshexagram.htm

http://www.peter-buswell.com/Library/hexagram.htm

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/27/2722.html

I know there is no winning in a religious debate, and I don't want to ruin this games' thread for everyone else by turning it into a religious debate. However, I have to say there is a big difference between a natural honey comb, the Star of David, and a cult symbol. It's all in the meaning. If you look at the pictures in the scan, you can see how your drawing is presented and then completed (by the player) to defeat the boss. You can't complete the Star of David without lifting your pen unless you add an extra line. The cult symbol I posted above can be completed without lifting the pen. I'm sure we can all agree the symbols in the game are more cultish than Jewish. I don't like the idea of drawing those symbols no mater how big or small they are. It's nothing to take lightly. I feel I've kind of derailed this thread, but it is game related. The game looks good. I'm upset about the hexagrams though.
 
MadOdorMachine said:
I know there is no winning in a religious debate, and I don't want to ruin this games' thread for everyone else by turning it into a religious debate. However, I have to say there is a big difference between a natural honey comb, the Star of David, and a cult symbol. It's all in the meaning. If you look at the pictures in the scan, you can see how your drawing is presented and then completed (by the player) to defeat the boss. You can't complete the Star of David without lifting your pen unless you add an extra line. The cult symbol I posted above can be completed without lifting the pen. I'm sure we can all agree the symbols in the game are more cultish than Jewish. I don't like the idea of drawing those symbols no mater how big or small they are. It's nothing to take lightly. I feel I've kind of derailed this thread, but it is game related. The game looks good. I'm upset about the hexagrams though.
"cultish"? what is that supposed to mean?

are you aware that the term has negative connotations even though they may not apply?
 
SotN rocks. AoS rocks. Another game in that line is fine with me. Who cares what parts of the DS it uses? Good games are good, we should be happy that we're getting a new 2D CV. I don't care if they write this thing for a supercomputing cluster, if it's "only" as good as Aria/SotN then yay us. You guys are retarded. Kthnxbye.
 
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