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First Madden 360 [RENDERED] shot!

soundwave05 said:
EA has PS3 dev kits, too :)

I'm not gonna say which system they think is better, but you can guess.
True, but the long wait could be a large factor. Especially if it looks close to these shots on 360.
 
I'm excited by the possibilities, but I hope the next Madden is more than just amazing graphics... I know that IMO it took at least a year before this gen's Madden really impressed me (I wasn't wowed by 2001 other than graphically).
 
Dsal said:
And some of you guys were attempting to argue in other threads how presentation in a football game doesn't matter. Look how much more excited you are about things now that you see the increase in presentation quality.


i think its more "omg if this is what a next gen game looks like...." than "OH MAN MADDEN CANT WAIT"
 
Agent Icebeezy said:
Isn't Xbox 360 going to be the leading SKU for EA this gen?


Anything on the Xbox 360 from EA will be on the PS3.

It'll come down to which hardware is better for EA, since EA fans can be really picky about even slight differences between console iterations.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
If EA had PS3 dev kits, wouldn't the specs have been leaked out by now?

Some EA employee leaked the Xbox 360 specs last year right?

I can't remember, but no, not necessarily. But there is a little more chatter re. PS3 going about at the moment, btw.

Whether they have PS3 kits now or not, though, doesn't suggest anything about their choice of lead sku. Could be either, to be honest, it's hard to tell. Some argue that the least common denominator would be their lead sku (aka x360 in all likelihood), some argue that the system receiving the most EA games would be their lead (aka ps3 in all likelihood).
 
soundwave05 said:
EA has PS3 dev kits, too :)

I'm not gonna say which system they think is better, but you can guess.

Well I am going to say. EA (at least Tiburon) LOVES the PS3 dev kit. When the visited UF this semester, they commented on how much loved the PS3 and how it is exponentially better than the PS2. Simply put, they mentioned the PS3 a lot more than X360.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
If EA had PS3 dev kits, wouldn't the specs have been leaked out by now?

Some EA employee leaked the Xbox 360 specs last year right?


Well the specs will be out at E3, which is like what 4 weeks from now?

We don't have full XBox 360 specs either, so I wouldn't say those were "leaked".

All I know is EA is very impressed with the PS3, and they do have real dev kits for both systems.
 
pestul said:
If it was CG.. why would they let you even see polygons.

It could be in-engine assets but prerendered? ;)

I seriously hope this isn't concepty/prerendered stuff and it is in fact a specific next-gen build. Nathkenn seems to suggest the latter, so i'm fairly confident this is realtime.
 
And some of you guys were attempting to argue in other threads how presentation in a football game doesn't matter. Look how much more excited you are about things now that you see the increase in presentation quality.

What do any of these pics have to do with presentation?Presentation is the stupid shit like the pre game warm ups and Sportscenter show or whatever,stuff no one cares about after about 2 times of viewing,well aside from Jobber.
 
soundwave05 said:
Well the specs will be out at E3, which is like what 4 weeks from now?

We don't have full XBox 360 specs either, so I wouldn't say those were "leaked".

All I know is EA is very impressed with the PS3, and they do have real dev kits for both systems.
It won't matter if the 360 can pull off those visuals at least 6 months ahead of the PS3. That would give MS a nice little head start.
 
dorio said:
It won't matter if the 360 can pull off those visuals at least 6 months ahead of the PS3. That would give MS a nice little head start.

Well, everything's relative..i'm gonna try and refrain from getting giddy about one single next-gen title without having any context to put it in, without having any peers to compare to. Maybe that's greedy, I don't know (and it possibly helps that i'm european and simply don't get american football ;)).
 
dorio said:
It won't matter if the 360 can pull off those visuals at least 6 months ahead of the PS3. That would give MS a nice little head start.

Well its obvious XBox 360 will have a headstart. In the long term though, which console EA fans pick as their console of choice is still very questionable especailly if the PS3 has better versions of future Maddens and what not.
 
Dsal said:
And some of you guys were attempting to argue in other threads how presentation in a football game doesn't matter. Look how much more excited you are about things now that you see the increase in presentation quality.

:lol

So we get excited about the one screenshot of a dude's face with no statistical overlays, no menus, and no gameplay options and we're hyped about presentation?

:lol
 
soundwave05 said:
Well its obvious XBox 360 will have a headstart. In the long term though, which console EA fans pick as their console of choice is still very questionable especailly if the PS3 has better versions of future Maddens and what not.
EA doesn't have to pick. They're not going to abandon one console for the other unless things go really bad for one of the players. They whore Madden out for anything with a microchip.
 
OMFG! A screenshot from the opening video of Madden '06! Let's all get excited! I'm sure ingame graphics will look even better! Photorealizm 4 life!
 
OK.....I must say I am blown away sofar.....

I really didn't think Madden 2006 Xbox 360 would look anywhere near the next gen renders but it is obvious to me that it is close enough.....

The first teaser both shows alot of detail and shows nothing at all, but the banner shows off the players better and I must say the graphics on Xbox 360 look out of this world.....

Best of all, this gives me hope the Xbox 360 version of Need4Speed: Most Wanted will look as good as this:

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With Need4Speed UG2, EA has just about PERFECTED automobile engine sounds.....combined with next gen graphics???

Wow....just Wow...
*gettin really excited about next gen now*
 
Kleegamefan said:
OK.....I must say I am blown away sofar.....

I really didn't think Madden 2006 Xbox 360 would look anywhere near the next gen renders but it is obvious to me that it is close enough.....

The first teaser both shows alot of detail and shows nothing at all, but the banner shows off the players better and I must say the graphics on Xbox 360 look out of this world.....

Best of all, this gives me hope the Xbox 360 version of Need4Speed: Most Wanted will look as good as this:

media


With Need4Speed UG2, EA has just about PERFECTED automobile engine sounds.....combined with next gen graphics???

Wow....just Wow...
*gettin really excited about next gen now*

yes I agree with those Need for Speed bits. Lets hope the game looks like that :)
 
pxleyes said:
Well I am going to say. EA (at least Tiburon) LOVES the PS3 dev kit. When the visited UF this semester, they commented on how much loved the PS3 and how it is exponentially better than the PS2. Simply put, they mentioned the PS3 a lot more than X360.

Well, EA certainly love their PS3 dev kits - they've been showing FIFA PS3 behind the closed doors for the past couple of months. (don't ask) :)

Anyway, Madden for Xbox 360 looks amazing - that PS3 rev is bound to look even better just boggles the mind. The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades. :lol
 
Izzy said:
Well, EA certainly love their PS3 dev kits - they've been showing FIFA PS3 behind the closed doors for the past couple of months. (don't ask) :)

Anyway, Madden for Xbox 360 looks amazing - that PS3 rev is bound to look even better just boggles the mind. The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades. :lol

I gotta ask, have you seen Fifa PS3?
 
holy crap, that is insane. pure and simple. no, it doesnt seem to look quite as good as the old cg pic, but then again, its zoomed in much closer, and is still a work in progress.

better then that cg pic? i dunno. probably not (i cant fathom graphics that good at this point), but obviously damn fucking close, to the point where nit picking about eyes is fucking retarded as all hell.

i'm not a big fan of football, and i fucking hate ea, but even i'll be buying this probably. so much for any boycott :lol (at least it looks like they arent gonna sit on their asses now that they own everything football related)

if this is at launch, 360 will fucking be HUGE. oh, and i know my pops will get a xbox 360 after seeing this. xbox 360 sales +1
 
Izzy said:
Well, EA certainly love their PS3 dev kits - they've been showing FIFA PS3 behind the closed doors for the past couple of months. (don't ask) :)

Anyway, Madden for Xbox 360 looks amazing - that PS3 rev is bound to look even better just boggles the mind. The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades. :lol
YES!! (to the fifa comment) this will be interesting I can only speak for myself and personally Im gonna prolly get both systems ( Im a sports graphics whore). When 360 comes out I'll get blown away and buy it and Madden, and of course six months later here comes Ps3 with even better graphics and I can expect to kiss another 300-500 dollars away... Im so happy yet so sad at the same time.....:) :(
 
soundwave05 said:
A little bit of that, perhaps. A little bit of simply having better hardware too.


You work for EA? btw PS3's GPU codename is Chaperone. Thanks to awesome work by a poster at B3D. It's either the codename or he was giving hints about the ps3 cpu, gpu architecture.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
You work for EA? btw PS3's GPU codename is Chaperone. Thanks to awesome work by a poster at B3D. It's either the codename or he was giving hints about the ps3 cpu, gpu architecture.

Never worked there. I did live in Vancouver for a few years though and still know a lot of people there.
 
Izzy said:
Well, EA certainly love their PS3 dev kits - they've been showing FIFA PS3 behind the closed doors for the past couple of months. (don't ask) :)


I'm willing to call bullshit on this one. Please prove me wrong.
 
So is the draft in high definition? ESPN-HD right? Anyway, this is great. I needed a tide over till May 12th. 60 seconds will do. Gonna be up early Saturday, and someone get a recorder ready and get that sucker online.
 
"Well, EA certainly love their PS3 dev kits"

which part of EA are we talking about here and how would they describe the dev kits?

because obviously each section of EA you talk to will give you a different response.

You're in the UK right? so are we talking about the Scottish F1 team, bullfrog , etc?
 
I don't think Sony going to wait very long to launch their console, Sony going to lay it on thick. I expect a stream of info to come from them until May next year, with a launch shortly after.
 
Izzy said:
Well, EA certainly love their PS3 dev kits - they've been showing FIFA PS3 behind the closed doors for the past couple of months. (don't ask) :)

Anyway, Madden for Xbox 360 looks amazing - that PS3 rev is bound to look even better just boggles the mind. The future is so bright, I gotta wear shades. :lol
If that shot is accurate then we're getting to a point of diminishing returns. What graphically could the ps3 do to improve on that shot? Render individual cells on the skin to zoom in on? That would be real useful for a football game.
 
OG_Original Gamer said:
I don't think Sony going to wait very long to launch their console, Sony going to lay it on thick. I expect a stream of info to come from them until May next year, with a launch shortly after.
Yeah, that would be the smart thing to do since MS is building up quite a bit of steam. Sony needs to start sending out the info planters with messages of "Wait til PS3!!!" out to keep it in anyone who might be interested in the 360s mind.
 
umm, that shot is not even CLOSE to the limit. It screams computer graphics (rendered or real-time, doesn't matter). The day I see a pic of the game and think its a scan form sports illustrated will be the day we can talk about diminished returns.
 
dorio said:
If that shot is accurate then we're getting to a point of diminishing returns. What graphically could the ps3 do to improve on that shot? Render individual cells on the skin to zoom in on? That would be real useful for a football game.

We still haven't seen the sidelines/crowds yet on Madden 360. What PS3 could make it so that crowds looked substantially better than the 360, that would be significant to presentation. More power = more freedom.
 
dorio said:
If that shot is accurate then we're getting to a point of diminishing returns. What graphically could the ps3 do to improve on that shot? Render individual cells on the skin to zoom in on? That would be real useful for a football game.


I hope you're not implying that there's little room for improvement....
 
dorio said:
If that shot is accurate then we're getting to a point of diminishing returns. What graphically could the ps3 do to improve on that shot? Render individual cells on the skin to zoom in on? That would be real useful for a football game.

Totally seperate from the PS3-Xbox360 debate, some people have such limited imaginations. Have you ever taken a look at a photo? Ever peaked outside? What we see in this image isn't even close to as far as we can get visually. I don't say this to understate how incredible it does look, but if I wanted to I can be picky and point out plenty of flaws.

Obviously, it may take a very long time to recreate real life so exactly that we can only have diminishing returns. There's so many complicated aspects to life that to do it all would really be quite the feat. But we can and will improve from what you see in these shots, and we still have quite a ways to go.
 
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You know, I keep reading how the PS3 will completely surpass the 360 graphically but then we get pics like these Madden ones I have to think, "what the fuck is the point?" What exactly is the PS3 going to offer me over this? Better nostril rendering? I'm honestly starting to believe that the differences between the two will be negligible, especially when it comes to 3rd party games like this.

Edit: I basically just repeated what's already been said, but whatever. :p
 
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