First reviews for Trank's Fantastic Four hit.

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Shockwave when the machine teleported back hit everything in the room.


Nope.
in fact, the reason Ben becomes 'the thing' is because his capsule opens when they're returning and a bunch of the rocks the thing is made of fall in

WHAT.

I just...WHAT?

Also, did the movie explain why this science facility allowed these young and inexperienced adults to travel to another universe/planet?
 
Nope.
in fact, the reason Ben becomes 'the thing' is because his capsule opens when they're returning and a bunch of the rocks the thing is made of fall in

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WHAT.

I just...WHAT?

Also, did the movie explain why this science facility allowed these young and inexperienced adults to travel to another universe/planet?

Doom, Johnny, and Reed are all drunk and pissed off that the government is gonna use the machine first to travel to the other dimension instead of them. So Reed, drunk of course, suggest they secretly travel to the other dimension without anyone knowing so they can plant an American flag and claim they were the first ones to set foot on another world like Neil Armstrong. Reed calls up Ben to join them since he worked with Reed to build a prototype teleporter in school so he should get a chance to see the other world. Basically there entire accident was because they were acting like drunken idiots.
 
ok even in the comics the origin of the F4 is dumb and not interesting, it's just Reed screwing up.

The first fatal mistake of this reboot was doing another stupid origin story about a team who's origin isn't even interesting. It needed to jump right to the full family(Im including Franklin and Valeria) already established and doing there thing.
 
Doom, Johnny, and Reed are all drunk and pissed off that the government is gonna use the machine first to travel to the other dimension instead of them. So Reed, drunk of course, suggest they secretly travel to the other dimension without anyone knowing so they can plant an American flag and claim they were the first ones to set foot on another world like Neil Armstrong. Basically there entire accident was because they were acting like drunken idiots.


It's essentially a drunken move Doom, Johnny, Reed and Ben do after hours.

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It's a repeat of Battleship.
 

Slayven

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So let me get this straight
only reason Ben is there is because Reed tells him to come over and get fucked up. And the only reason Doom is made is because they won't let him go back to the planet?
 

Toa TAK

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Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
. It's like Reed is talking to his imaginary friend.

Maybe Ben Grimm is like the Gargoyles from Hunchback and it's purposefully ambiguous whether or not Ben Grimm truly exists, or is a schizophrenic hallucination of Reed's.
 
Some of these spoilers don't actually come across like that on screen as others have mentioned. The accident/transformation scene is legitimately awesome and dark.
 

Fisty

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Maybe Ben Grimm is like the Gargoyles from Hunchback and it's purposefully ambiguous whether or not Ben Grimm truly exists, or is a schizophrenic hallucination of Reed's.

Or maybe
they had no idea of the scale or design for the Thing when they were filming the scenes and no one knows where to look, so they just kept the shots that werent completely ruined in post because FOX wouldnt greenlight reshoots.
 

Neoxon

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Isn't the book already cancelled?
Yes. But to be fair, the F4 haven't sold very well in recent years, anyway. Plus both Human Torch & The Thing are gonna appear in other comics (Johnny has Uncanny Inhumans & Uncanny Avengers, while The Thing has Guardians of the Galaxy).
 
Or maybe
they had no idea of the scale or design for the Thing when they were filming the scenes and no one knows where to look, so they just kept the shots that werent completely ruined in post because FOX wouldnt greenlight reshoots.
Actually, there was a few months of re shoots, IIRC.
 

B-Dubs

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Yes. But to be fair, the F4 haven't sold very well in recent years, anyway. Plus both Human Torch & The Thing are gonna appear in other comics (Johnny has Uncanny Inhumans & Uncanny Avengers, while The Thing has Guardians of the Galaxy).

Not only that but Secret Wars is, at it's core, a story about Reed vs Doom. F4 is a series that needs a great writer on it otherwise it will suck, so I'm totally cool with Marvel treating it more like a series of mini-series that they only do when a great writer has a great idea.
 

Neoxon

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Not only that but Secret Wars is, at it's core, a story about Reed vs Doom. F4 is a series that needs a great writer on it otherwise it will suck, so I'm totally cool with Marvel treating it more like a series of mini-series that they only do when a great writer has a great idea.
Exactly, Secret Wars is basically a Fantastic Four book in disguise (seeing as it's Hickman, I'm not surprised).
 

B-Dubs

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Exactly, Secret Wars is basically a Fantastic Four book in disguise (seeing as it's Hickman, I'm not surprised).

I just wish FOX would either give the property back to Marvel or give it to a writer and director that has actually read the best runs the book has to offer, instead of the cliffnotes plot summary and nothing else.
 
If Marvel/Disney get the FF rights back, I can see Doom taking over ruined Sokovia and renaming it Latveria, and using the wreckage of the Ultron drones as Doombots.


I could see that. Maybe Latveria is the medieval name of Sokovia, and Doom is descended from their royalty.

I could also see Marvel's plotlines setting up the FF's origin perfectly.

Make Ben Grimm a pilot working for SHIELD. After the Battle of New York in 2012, SHIELD becomes interested in faster than light travel in order to gather intelligence on potential alien threats. Ben brings his former college roommate, Reed Richards, in to lead the project. Sue is Reed's fiance and lab assistant, and is also the legal guardian of her teenage brother, Johnny.

Ben, Reed, and Sue test Reed's vessel, and Johnny stows away on board. The ship comes out of warp in the middle of a mass of unknown cosmic energies, giving the four their powers.

Years later, after the fall of SHIELD, Reed sets up the Future Foundation think tank, and all this backstory is given in a few minutes by a tour guide at the visitor's level of the Baxter Building.

Use Galactus or Annhilus as the villain to differentiate it from the four flops, an instead use Doom in an Iron Man movie, seeking revenge for his people against the creator of Ultron.
 
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