Not to mention the rubber ones tend to nick or chip. Never considered the bouncing.
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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy
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Not to mention the rubber ones tend to nick or chip. Never considered the bouncing.
FallingEdge
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My ass is lazy so I prefer this route. I won't get fat but as long as I'm getting stronger, I won't mind it. It is so much easier to lose fat then build muscle.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I would go for it if you have the funds. I long ago stopped those "touch and go" deadlifts and come to a complete stop/rest with my deads now between each rep making sure all momentum is gone. I do this because as we all know the hardest part of the deadlift is getting it up off the ground in the first place. So perhaps if you simply do that with your deads the "bounce" won't matter at all.
As for your old plates, (stupid question) but have you WD-40ed them and taken steel wool to them?
I can't wait till I have the money to put together my own gym, it's going to be glorious.
1800 cals??? What do you weigh? That sounds pretty low for any kind of strength routine even while cutting.
I've been doing 1900 at 6'2 and haven't lost much of anything in my lifts...even gained in some.
Not that they were much to begin with anyway. lol
Damn, I wouldn't want to live at 1900 calories.
2,300 calories is what I've been doing the last couple weeks. That is a 1,000 calorie deficit for me. Before that I was between 2,500-2,800 for the last few months.
Yep. Once you're disciplined losing fat is easy as fuck.
Eh, if you're not that big and eating clean it can be tough to even hit 2000 calories. Cutting to 1800 is nothing.
That's what I'd figure I do. It's simply easier to reset with steel! I have a pair of 10lbs and 15lbs bumper plates that I got so my wife could deadlift, but I've been using them to clean my presses to my shoulders before every set rather than taking them off the rack at my collarbone. I notice when I set them down, they really like to bounce. It's probably just an extra 1/2 - full second between reps with a deadlift, but I can already tell why the kipping pull-up crowd likes to deadlift in circuits.
I've yet to go back over it since no single spot is bigger than a Lincoln head on a penny, but I'm pissed since they were cherry when I bought them. Even if I decide to sell them I should clean them up sooner rather than later.
And having a home gym is a lot of fun. I'll post pics when it's done, but it's gone through several versions since I've started. I keep... upgrading.
5'9, 177lbs.
Was 175 when I subscribed to the thread.
All those squats man, the legs of my boxer shorts def feel tighter.
Yeah, that's 1900 clean calories, it's actually quite a bit of food. Takes me a good bit every morning or night to prepare everything.
Salads, yogurt with various fruits, protein shakes, fresh dinner every night with green veggies.
I've considered the same thing. I have 6 45lbs plates and need more. I looked into the cost for bumper plates are crazy
That's pretty much what I eat, with the addition of eggs in the morning and nuts etc for snacks.
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Yep. I eat a ton. Chicken, fish, turkey burgers, greek yogurt, homemade protein fudgecicles, baby carrots, shakes. I have to eat a ton of that stuff to not undereat.
Yep. I eat a ton. Chicken, fish, turkey burgers, greek yogurt, homemade protein fudgecicles, baby carrots, shakes. I have to eat a ton of that stuff to not undereat.
Poindexter
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I like being a big guy. A 1000 calorie deficit is 2400 calories for me. But when I cut I like to cut at 2700 calories. I don't have to sacrifice food I like, I can easily get enough protein at that level and I still lose a little more than a lb a week. Eating at maintenance is a lot harder for me. Eating 3400 calories a day is no damn joke, especially when it's clean. When I do a full on bulk it's going to be hell for me.
I've converted from believing in clean calories.
IIFYM for the win. I still eat veggies and a ton of chicken but I've eaten half a pint of Ben and Jerry's almost every day for the last 2 weeks and still lost 4 lbs. No difference whatsoever. I just make sure i hit my protein and fat macros, and fill the rest with carbs.
brb eating bagels and cream cheese, ice cream, pizza, cinnamon toast crunch, doritos locos taco supremes, and still losing 2 lbs a week.
IIFYM for the win. I still eat veggies and a ton of chicken but I've eaten half a pint of Ben and Jerry's almost every day for the last 2 weeks and still lost 4 lbs. No difference whatsoever. I just make sure i hit my protein and fat macros, and fill the rest with carbs.
brb eating bagels and cream cheese, ice cream, pizza, cinnamon toast crunch, doritos locos taco supremes, and still losing 2 lbs a week.
yeah i'm waiting to see if I can actually even eat 3,800-4,000 cals when I start bulking in the winter. Shouldn't be a prob though because I do IF and eat 80% of 2,400 cals between 8-10pm every day. I guess I can eat it, the bigger problem is cooking everything.
And yet I have put on weight.
Yeah, but if you're eating 1800 calories and training hard and doing cardio, you may in fact be sending your body into starvation mode where it wants to store all it can.
Well quit dwelling on time that has passed and can't be changed, and fix that shit going forward! You got this!
Bumper plates are ridiculously expensive. I'd be looking at $600 for six 45's new and not much less for used.
I think it all depends on your conditioning. Someone that's skinny tends to have a better resting metabolic rate than someone that's overweight. MDA likes to throw around the term "fat-adjusted." Basically I think you're able to get away with eating crappier stuff (for a while) due to your metabolism being better now. What's working for you is probably not going to work on someone that has 50 pounds to lose.
But calories =/= calories. Regardless of whether you're still losing weight or not, unhealthy foods do have longer term effects on you. 1800 calories that are all veggies, meat, fruit, and nuts are obviously better for you than a diet full of processed foods that equal out to 1800 calories.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
So I walked into my Gold's Gym today to get a visitors pass while I'm down in South Carolina, and the manager walks up to me asking me if I like the new mat they got for deadlifts. After a bit of chatting he tells me they are working on getting bumper plates and a platform.
Fuck yeah! Now for the waiting game.
Side note, I guess they know me enough there now to come up to me and discuss what's in their gym, kind of an ego boost.
Fuck yeah! Now for the waiting game.
Side note, I guess they know me enough there now to come up to me and discuss what's in their gym, kind of an ego boost.
I really feel like I've hit a rut in my training. I started lifting/dieting in January, and up until a month ago I had great progress. I had came into the year in the worst shape of my life, and the first week of doing a routine that's very similar to the OPs was pure hell. I was also unable to even jog a quarter mile on the treadmill. After struggling the first couple of weeks things started to click. I cleaned up my diet, stuck with the routine, and was able to lose 1-2 pounds per/week while still feeling strong in the gym. I was able to cut down to 200lbs from 250 and I set PRs in Bench Press (250), Squat (330) and Deadlift (375).
Last month I hurt my knee and was unable to train legs to the intensity I like, and also had to cut back on cardio. I've also seen most of my lifts go down for the first time, and I'm assuming it's due to the weight loss. People always talk about the window where beginners can lose weight while getting stronger, and I think it's probably slammed shut for me. I'm around 5'10 and would like to get down to 175lbs before I start a bulk, but I'm wondering if I should stay on my routine for the rest of the cut or switch it up now that I'm 6 months in and am seeing strength gain losses?
Last month I hurt my knee and was unable to train legs to the intensity I like, and also had to cut back on cardio. I've also seen most of my lifts go down for the first time, and I'm assuming it's due to the weight loss. People always talk about the window where beginners can lose weight while getting stronger, and I think it's probably slammed shut for me. I'm around 5'10 and would like to get down to 175lbs before I start a bulk, but I'm wondering if I should stay on my routine for the rest of the cut or switch it up now that I'm 6 months in and am seeing strength gain losses?
I've got about 30 lbs to lose before i'm 12-15%. I do only eat after I workout so I know that affects how my body uses it.
My Gold's is pretty awesome but still no dedicated deadlift platform. I just do it on the floor. Moving closer to a newer Gold's gym soon. I gotta go over there and see what's up.
Well if you're going to eat a bunch of carbs, right after you work out is a good time. I would still try to minimize how much bad food I eat. And I'm not perfect, I definitely have my days off here and there.
When your body fat is as high as yours, its going to be much easier to eat "dirty" foods and still drop weight. Get back to us when you're below 18%. Things will change a bit. Even more when you hit 12% and want to get those <10% ab cuts.
Preach.
you should be in luck with the weather. its clearing up.
FallingEdge
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It still really depends. When I was at my leanest. I could still get away with eating a bit dirtier and still be fine. However, that bloated feeling is what I hated the most. For me, finding the happy medium is what really matters. 80/20 rule in full effect.
Yeah, but Ben and Jerry's every day isn't "a bit dirtier". Lol
FallingEdge
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lol true true
Noooo I refuse to accept!
*eats 200g of butter a day and nothing else, calls it low-calorie diet*
Home Depot sells rubber sealant in a spray can (Rust-Oleum, I think). You use them on gutters and things of that nature to keep moisture from leaking out. It might do the trick in protecting your plates from moisture.
It's about 10 bucks a can.
My boy Jimmy struthers is on a diet consisting of sticks of margarine and poptarts.
He's making All kinds of gains.....
ALL KINDS
I don't think it's important to pay attention to the number they give, but in conjunction with a scale, they can give you a solid idea of trends. Use both as tools.
Something like that, I think it's a better way of tracking progress then a real body fat number. Lots of factors effect the number. how hydrated you are, hand moisture, menstruating etc. I heard somewhere that it's best to take it right in the morning when you get out of bed, don't do anything aside from taking a leak, don't even wash your hands. By doing this I think you at least have a good way of controlling all the other variables and most importantly, it'll be more consistent.
Now that I'm really into Tri's, I need to rethink my squats. I'm doing fairly well with them (335 1RM) but the DOMS is really effecting my runs. How can I still do 5/3/1 and run 3 days a week at least? DOMS doesn't really do much to my swims outside of hurt a bit, and the biking isn't too heavy at 1 or 2 days a week.
6 Sets
12x Handstand pushups (against the wall)
12x Lat pull downs
12x Turkish Get ups
12x One arm row
12x Dips
200x Jump-rope
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Burner:
12x burpees from hell (that's down, legs out, 4x mountain climbers, 2x pushups, legs in, jump up and clap!)
Feels good.
12x Handstand pushups (against the wall)
12x Lat pull downs
12x Turkish Get ups
12x One arm row
12x Dips
200x Jump-rope
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Burner:
12x burpees from hell (that's down, legs out, 4x mountain climbers, 2x pushups, legs in, jump up and clap!)
Feels good.
Bearded Dudebro
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I actually need a little advise on how much to eat. I've been doing 5x5 for about 4 months. I've worked to the point where on my 5x5 (Mon, Wed, Fri) I'm eating 2600 cal. On my 1 cardio day I'm also doing 2600 cal. My off days, I'm pretty sedentary. I'm eating 1900.
On my 5x5 days, I get about 240g Protein, 240g Carbs, 70g Fat. I slightly low on energy, like I've spent it all at the gym in the morning.
I'm not taking any pre workout drinks, but I am taking Multivitamins, Omega 3, BCAAs, lots of water, and lots of rest.
I'm still making gains, things are getting rough. But everything's still moving, except for my Bench Press and Overhead Press. They're stuck at 120 and 65 respectively. It really feels like my Right Tricep is holding me back.
I'm just wondering if I should be eating even more on my 5x5 days? And what accessory exercises can I do for my triceps and chest that will mesh with 5x5?
On my 5x5 days, I get about 240g Protein, 240g Carbs, 70g Fat. I slightly low on energy, like I've spent it all at the gym in the morning.
I'm not taking any pre workout drinks, but I am taking Multivitamins, Omega 3, BCAAs, lots of water, and lots of rest.
I'm still making gains, things are getting rough. But everything's still moving, except for my Bench Press and Overhead Press. They're stuck at 120 and 65 respectively. It really feels like my Right Tricep is holding me back.
I'm just wondering if I should be eating even more on my 5x5 days? And what accessory exercises can I do for my triceps and chest that will mesh with 5x5?
damn, talk about humbling. Had to squeeze in a quick gym session today, went over to do 5/3/1 OHP and this other guy asks if he can work in (I do seated dumbbell ohp). Said sure, no problem. He wasn't a big guy and I didn't expect to pay him much attention between sets. This motherfucker walks over, grabs a 100lb dumbbell in each hand, then proceeds to rip out a set of 12 before putting them back and wiping the seat down for my set.
I was starting my warmups. Nothing like following up that performance with 25lb dbs lol.
I was starting my warmups. Nothing like following up that performance with 25lb dbs lol.
Syphon Filter
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How many grams of carbs is considered too much for a daily intake?
Am I the only one who doesn't like going heavy on shoulders? They're a really small muscle group, and I've found light weight, high reps works best for me. Plus, shoulders are really easy to fuck up if your form isn't good.
I like going pretty heavy with shoulders. Well, heavy for me at least for presses. A lot of dumbbell shoulder exercises only need light weight and you'll still feel tired as hell after them.
TheDarkStark
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No way man, I want to look like Tom Hardy in The Warrior/Dark Knight Rises, I want my traps to be ENORMOUS!
Shoulders, not traps. Traps I go very heavy and high volume and my traps are solid. Delts, though, I think not so much.
BlueScrote
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Those sound delicious right now.
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