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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
325 3x5, no belt.

You and I are gonna have to make a pact not to go into those threads again, man.

Yeah, it's probably better that way.

Good shit, you may think about using a belt soon, you will be amazed how much of a difference it makes! If you're against it, I understand that too though.
 

Trey

Member
Yeah, it's probably better that way.

Good shit, you may think about using a belt soon, you will be amazed how much of a difference it makes! If you're against it, I understand that too though.

I actually should've been wearing a belt. I'm going to start. I deloaded twice on my squat already to improve form and concentrate of minimizing back pain. Second time seems to be the charm.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I actually should've been wearing a belt. I'm going to start. I deloaded twice on my squat already to improve form and concentrate of minimizing back pain. Second time seems to be the charm.

Nice, yeah, if you want help picking a belt let me know. I'm a fan of the 13mm ETS belt, but Inzer is a good brand too.
 

balddemon

Banned
i can't wait til i get a job and get a belt. i feel like my squat/deadlift are going to skyrocket again.

also my hip flexors are incredibly fucking sore from doing those breathing squats
 

balddemon

Banned
fantastic isn't it =)

sure. deadlifting and squatting today are going to be fun.

also any of you fitness bros play diablo 3? petrie is too good for me now, lol. while i'm waiting for the patch i'm playing through on a monk again, lvl 28 at the moment. balddemon#1627 if anyone wants to join me.
 

LaneDS

Member
Damn, I think I busted my knee.

Flash-back two weeks ago. I run. everything is fine. I come home, cool down, have a shower, no problem. Later in the evening, my right knee hurts when I get up, whevener my leg has been straight for too long. I don't mind it too much and it goes away in two days. Just to be sure, I just do fitness works and keep away from running these last two weeks.

But yesterday, I decided to run again. I had even forgotten about the knee thing. This was just my usual weekly 7k run, which I do in about 45min. Nothing unusual at all, and as you can see, not really extreme.

And yet, 20minutes into the usual mixed route, I get this sharp pain in the right knee. It's not inwards, it's outwards. I slow my pace a bit and try to see if it passes. It doesn't, but it's not as sharp as the initial pain, I just have to mind my form.

I complete the run, playing it relatively safe - no funny sidewalk crossings, no chaotic routes, just mild running. But 15 minutes after I'm home and my body cools down, it hurts like a bitch. I can't bend the knee without that sharp pain. I mean, I can walk but I feel it nagging, I can't run, and I most certainly can't walk up or down the stairs without looking like I've got mace in my eyes. It hurts, basically. I'd say 6 / 10, pain-wise.

This was yesterday, it's pretty much the same, even worse today. If I keep my leg straight for a while and bend it, it's a struggle.

I'm usually the kind of guy who waits and see how things go before going all medical, but you guys can have valuable experience with this kind of injury. What do you think, should I be quick about seeing a doctor, or is it not unusual and just requires time?

Also, is there any good leg training one can do without stressing a damaged knee?

I think the good advice with knee pain is generally to see a doctor, considering it sounds like something quite a bit more than mild. As someone with bad knees myself, I recommend good knees braces and icing them down after a workout, and I'm sure others can add to (or correct) that.
 

Mr.City

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325 3x5 (three sets; five reps), no belt.

You and I are gonna have to make a pact not to go into those threads again, man.

Nice work!

Where did you get your roller? I was looking at some cheap ones at Amazon, not sure what a good size/price is though.

Elitefts has a lot of sales. I remember getting mine from there. Amazon is a good place too. If you want to go hardcore, you could always try a PVC pipe. I use the pipe for my legs and the foam roller for my upper and mid back.

Okay here's my plan.

0 carbs.

run two miles before and after work out.

how does that sound

Like shit. You're either trolling us (not surprising with your user name) or you're not a very good reader. How much weight do you want to lose? How much do you weight? What's your training history/ current lifts/ etc?

And what the reason behind the "hard cut?"
 

entremet

Member
I keep telling myself I am going to switch to this from SS but I just haven't yet. SS has taken me to the limit and I think I need more rest days between squatting especially.

Yeah. Squatting 3x per week at the higher weights started to get brutal for me.
 

OG Kush

Member
I don't even know what to believe anymore.. First I heard theres good carbs and bad carbs, for example its better to have oatmeal, brown rice, sweet potatoes, fruits, beans etc as carbs. As these are "complex carbs".
Then I hear that in the ened carbs all end up as the same thing in your body, so whether you have 50gs of carbs from white rice or 50gs of carbs from brown rice it isn't gonna change how you're body treats it. The only benefit that brown rice has over white rice is its nurtients. In the end it all gets converted to glucose.
Any truth to this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RCBlWQlF7c
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Ah yes, my favorite sight at the gym: seeing a dude use the squat cage to curl an empty bar.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
I get as mad about that as watching a dude/group of people bench press and do flyes in the squat rack.

The worst part was that he then proceeded to do more bicep curl oriented exercises at a low weight with other equipment.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I'm thinking my plan will be...

Cut/recover from soft tissue damage until the fall.

Then I'm going to start eating more, startup SL 5x5 again (increasing 5lbs every workout) and try a bulk.

If I buy an extra bag of chicken tenders to grill up, more tuna and eggs it shouldn't be terribly hard to eat more, but it will be a big change from the amount I eat now.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I'm thinking my plan will be...

Cut/recover from soft tissue damage until the fall.

Then I'm going to start eating more, startup SL 5x5 again (increasing 5lbs every workout) and try a bulk.

If I buy an extra bag of chicken tenders to grill up, more tuna and eggs it shouldn't be terribly hard to eat more, but it will be a big change from the amount I eat now.

I'd focus on mobility/flexibility too while your at it. You might have gotten tight while you were away.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
Ok good idea. I'm guessing I should be using: http://www.mobilitywod.com/

Try to lay on your back perpendicular to a wall with your feet up against the wall in a very low squat position. Push your hips down towards the ground so that your lower-back/butt touch the ground and hold it there. This will help with lower back mobility and diminish a buttwink while squatting.

You should feel a good stretch around your inner-thigh.
 
It's just no fun trying to count calories and sticking to a certain amount.

Plus counting calories every day for a long time gets boring and time consuming.
I only track macros for a week or two when I start a diet. After that I pretty much know what to eat to reach a goal.

I eat pretty consistently though. If you like to have something different every day, I could see the problem I suppose.
 
What targets inner pecs best? Regular bench press? Flyes? Push up?

Edit: I know its technically one muscle, but surely there's a way to build that part of it a bit more? I might be 1000% wrong though.

ANy squeeze or cross over motion, so cables, flyes and close grip benching

I would throw out decline bench entirely. Do dips instead.

I wouldn't personally.

Dips hit the chest in a more of a stretching movement, out and in. Decline benches changes the plane of movement to up and down, so it's causing the chest to volumise. Also it negates usage of the shoulders and the triceps.

Some say it's the best chest press you can do, and according to their explanations it does make sense
 

balddemon

Banned
so today was painful

squat deadlift bench (skipped bench cuz i have a strained pec from basketball)

Squat - interesting day today. deloading today. did my first warmup set and then told my friend about that 20 rep squat program. he goes "i bet you couldn't do the 225x20" (which is what i'm supposed to do week 1). so guess what? i did it. haha suck it. then i did my 3 working sets at 265 which were so easy.

Deadlift - 335x1x5. i'm at the point where i grunt really loudly lol. but still this isn't very hard.

Bench - skipped it.

all in all a good day, i'm just gonna be really sore tomorrow. and basketball tomorrow is gonna suck
 

cryptic

Member
Is there any point in doing clean and jerks? I'm worried about long term effects.
I'm doing, squats, deads, bench, and pull-ups besides.
 

zsswimmer

Member
For someone who is tall (I'm 6'3") and has long legs, is the low-bar squat better or high-bar squat better, in terms of leg/hip dexterity? I know the low bar emphasizes the posterior chain but I feel really awkward trying to do it. My legs are fairly weak as well.

I'm also trying to figure out a solid program, because while my legs lack in strength my upper body lifts are beyond a novice. I used to only bench and do pull days my freshman year in college and just started taking squatting seriously last fall.

Right now I just have a 4 day split, the leg day being: My lifts are improving with this split though, my deadlifts (on back day) are jumping up really fast
high bar squats, bb calf raise, leg press, romanian deadlift, quad extensions

Should I switch to a 5/3/1 program or a 5x5 program? Its kind of lame situation (weak ass legs) that I wish I actually knew what I was doing when I first started lifting....
 
Just got a belt for lifting! I have experienced general soreness in the lower back, so I am looking forward to lifting without fear!
 

Draft

Member
For someone who is tall (I'm 6'3") and has long legs, is the low-bar squat better or high-bar squat better, in terms of leg/hip dexterity? I know the low bar emphasizes the posterior chain but I feel really awkward trying to do it. My legs are fairly weak as well.
It doesn't matter. Do whichever one feels more comfortable.
 

Trey

Member
Started workin' out. Been doing bicep curls, tricep curls, lat pulldowns, bench presses, squats (no weight yet), and rows.

For curiosity's sake, what are your main goals for weightlifting.

good to hear you have someone correcting your form as you go along. It saves so much time if you get it down as you learn the movements.
 

MjFrancis

Member
How To Build Muscle: The Ultimate Muscle-Building Guide for Beginners

Any other image this long would be shitting on a thread, but this one's worth the while. Maybe a few finer points to disagree upon, but I thought this was succinct and easy to follow. The most difficult part to understand on it's own is the JCDF Beginner's Routine advice. All it means is following a beginner's routine that's properly programmed - train 3x/week, emphasize strength development and compound movements.

muscle-building-guide-beginners.jpg
 
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