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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I found the prowler to be very, very humbling. Definitely something you have to experience!

Yeah, I've heard. I'm hoping the house we get has a nice straight away I can use it on, but I fear the neighbors might bitch and the city may try to fine me. I'll have to look into it. The weighted vest though would come in handy if I can't use a prowler. Just strap that bitch on and go for a "ruck" march.
 

MjFrancis

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Damn, our setup is pretty similar MJ.
Can't go wrong with the basics. Though if I had a freestanding dip station I'd be doing bodyweight dips one upper body day and weighted dips on the other.

Dip-Station-e1330530496202.jpg


Yes, you can pretty much only do one exercise on this thing. But it's an awesome exercise. If I can find one of these, I'm getting it.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Can't go wrong with the basics. Though if I had a freestanding dip station I'd be doing bodyweight dips one upper body day and weighted dips on the other.

Dip-Station-e1330530496202.jpg


Yes, you can pretty much only do one exercise on this thing. But it's an awesome exercise. If I can find one of these, I'm getting it.

I think there are dip stands you can get to attach to power racks. I'm going to look into that when I get my new house.
 
Don't get some people. A former employee who used to work at Sport's Authority weighs 200lb (he's around 6'0) and cannot even bench 300lb. He's in decent shape, too. Hell, I'm 6'1/170 and I benched 275 when I was on whey. If I weighed 200lb, I'd probably be benching 340.
 

EviLore

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Don't get some people. A former employee who used to work at Sport's Authority weighs 200lb (he's around 6'0) and cannot even bench 300lb. He's in decent shape, too. Hell, I'm 6'1/170 and I benched 275 when I was on whey. If I weighed 200lb, I'd probably be benching 340.

How could anyone possibly not bench 300 lbs?!
 

Cudder

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Don't get some people. A former employee who used to work at Sport's Authority weighs 200lb (he's around 6'0) and cannot even bench 300lb. He's in decent shape, too. Hell, I'm 6'1/170 and I benched 275 when I was on whey. If I weighed 200lb, I'd probably be benching 340.
The fuck is up with this post...?
 

PBY

Banned
Don't get some people. A former employee who used to work at Sport's Authority weighs 200lb (he's around 6'0) and cannot even bench 300lb. He's in decent shape, too. Hell, I'm 6'1/170 and I benched 275 when I was on whey. If I weighed 200lb, I'd probably be benching 340.

get back on dat whey cycle then breh. mad gains.
 
Don't get some people. A former employee who used to work at Sport's Authority weighs 200lb (he's around 6'0) and cannot even bench 300lb. He's in decent shape, too. Hell, I'm 6'1/170 and I benched 275 when I was on whey. If I weighed 200lb, I'd probably be benching 340.

"Back in the 60's and 70's man, everyone was on whey. Hell we'd shoot up whey in bathroom at work. Before hitting the gym we'd snort an entire 8ball. Crazy times man, crazy times"
 

PBY

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Maybe I'm just stronger than a lot of people who weigh more than me. I mean, I do have the stride of the gazelle. A beautiful, beautiful, gazelle person.

forreal tho, I think I'm relatively strong for my size ( 61, 210) and I my bench tops out at around 270.

Guess I need more whey.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
Don't get some people. A former employee who used to work at Sport's Authority weighs 200lb (he's around 6'0) and cannot even bench 300lb. He's in decent shape, too. Hell, I'm 6'1/170 and I benched 275 when I was on whey. If I weighed 200lb, I'd probably be benching 340.

How did your bench drop by "going off whey"? Did you get skinny? Or just fat?
 

ACE 1991

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So when is the right time to stop doing Strong Lifts? I've been doing the program since mid-late December so it is obviously too early to stop now, but I would like to move on to a routine more centered around building muscle rather than strength once I have a good base.

Anyone?
 

Petrie

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Yeah, I quit whey and my muscles just withered and fell off. It happens!


You know it isn't time yet, so there's no way for us to tell you when it will be the right time yet. It isn't really something you'll know until you hit that plateau.

You're likely at least 6 months away from even thinking about switching programs. Shouldn't even be on your mind.
 

Petrie

Banned
So what else could be the reason why my strength declined? My diet and everything else remained the same.

Unless you kept things carefully controlled in every possible manner, there is no way for you to know that for sure. All you can do is hypothesize.

*note* you didn't

Hell, it could be a simple case of placebo effect. This is why science exists.
 
Think I'm gonna stick with losing 50g of protein for my strength decline. My diet has remained the same for the past year, including portion size, so there ya go. I guarantee you if I go back on it again, my strength would increase.

But thanks for the advice, braj!
 

Srsly

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Think I'm gonna stick with losing 50g of protein for my strength decline. My diet has remained the same for the past year, including portion size, so there ya go. I guarantee you if I go back on it again, my strength would increase.

But thanks for the advice, braj!

Uh, maybe your whey had creatine in it? That's not unusual. Do you take creatine?
 

Petrie

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Think I'm gonna stick with losing 50g of protein for my strength decline. My diet has remained the same for the past year, including portion size, so there ya go. I guarantee you if I go back on it again, my strength would increase.

But thanks for the advice, braj!

There is so much more to it than just diet though, and unless you carefully control sleep patterns, water intake, and every other factor, you have no idea where the decrease came from.

Then again if everything remained the same other than the Whey, then you simply are eating less, as Whey is simply food, and so a strength decrease is expected, and has nothing to do with Whey itself and everything to do with a decrease in food intake.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I've looked at the Rouge Matador, but my rack was bought used and I don't know if there were some sort of peculiarity that would keep it from fitting on my rack:

Yeah, that looks similar to the one I saw on EFTS I think. I'm probably gonna end up getting a custom collegiate rack from them with a dip attachment and some other shit like band pegs and stuff. It's going to be glorious.
 

abuC

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First heavy chest day in a while, and the first time trying dumbbells heavier than 120lbs. Had to spend 20 minutes warming up my right shoulder and stretching it, don't know what is going on with it but it almost always feels fatigued until I warm it up.

Was able to get the 135lbers up 5 times in my final set, wasn't going to try 140lbers even though I think I could do it. My goal is to lift the 150lbers before march, doesn't matter if it's once or five times.
 

f0nz0

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how do you put extra weight on the dips? with a dumbbell or is it something else?

and to everyone, how do you guys do weighted hanging leg raises?. I specifically brought a small 10 lbs dumbbell to the dip machine, put it on the floor, tried to grab it with the feet but I failed so bad, lol I either couldn't lift the legs or the dumbbell would slip through it.

I have no idea how to add weight to my HLR, any help or tip is appreciated.

Maybe tie the Dumbbell to your shoes with your shoelaces?
 

Mully

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First heavy chest day in a while, and the first time trying dumbbells heavier than 120lbs. Had to spend 20 minutes warming up my right shoulder and stretching it, don't know what is going on with it but it almost always feels fatigued until I warm it up.

Was able to get the 135lbers up 5 times in my final set, wasn't going to try 140lbers even though I think I could do it. My goal is to lift the 150lbers before march, doesn't matter if it's once or five times.

Props man. Do it up.

Another question about 5/3/1 assistance work, Wendler suggests that only two assistance exercises should be done. From what I've seen of Darth's, Alien's, and MJ's routine, there are atleast three assistance exercises done each session. I guess it would be okay to add another exercise to my session without losing BBB?
 

Ice 9

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How to improve one's Overhead Press.

Try to keep my form proper like everything else, but I've been stalled on this exercise forever.
 
Hey guys, I was wondering if you could comment on my squat form.

I'm a fan of high-bar deep squats, but that dreaded buttwink, man... I can't seem to get rid of it. It doesn't cause me any pain or discomfort, which is good, but I'd like to minimize it even more.

So, thoughts? Yeah, I know, wtf am I doing squatting in running shoes? lol

Haven't been doing squats for that long, but it looks ok to me - I don't think you need to go as low as you do, but some of the more experienced guys here might comment on that.
Saw the video before reading the whole post and my first thought was "shoes man!" ;)
 

balddemon

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Hey guys, I was wondering if you could comment on my squat form.

I'm a fan of high-bar deep squats, but that dreaded buttwink, man... I can't seem to get rid of it. It doesn't cause me any pain or discomfort, which is good, but I'd like to minimize it even more.

So, thoughts? Yeah, I know, wtf am I doing squatting in running shoes? lol

you look fine. i dont know what buttwink is (is it when your butt kinda dips down a little bit at the bottom of the movement?), but i dont think it's affecting your lift.
 

MrOogieBoogie

BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
It's weird, I know I don't necessarily need to go so low, but it honestly feels comfortable--and natural--for me to do so, so I've just stuck with it.

you look fine. i dont know what buttwink is (is it when your butt kinda dips down a little bit at the bottom of the movement?), but i dont think it's affecting your lift.

Yah, that's it. Funny term.
 

Mully

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Hey guys, I was wondering if you could comment on my squat form.

I'm a fan of high-bar deep squats, but that dreaded buttwink, man... I can't seem to get rid of it. It doesn't cause me any pain or discomfort, which is good, but I'd like to minimize it even more.

So, thoughts? Yeah, I know, wtf am I doing squatting in running shoes? lol

Looks very good. No butt wink and there's nice consistent and controlled movement throughout the entire squat.

Good job man.
 
guys I have a problem, my arms (from the shoulder blades and beyond) are extremely weak and also very thin. I was raised by vegetarian parents, I only started eating meat when I was 22 or 23. I don't eat too much meat since I am scared to eat substandard animals raised on unnatural diets. I usually stick with grass fed lamb and canned Alaskan salmon (about 4 times a weak, I think I eat about 1200 - 1500 cals a day). I started weight lifting back in summer of 2010, didn't see good results since my diet was crap, I also injured my back while doing bent over rows and had to stop.

my question is, can I bulk up my arms without serious weight lifting? Even after so much practice, I can only do 3 pull ups :/
 

EviLore

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guys I have a problem, my arms (from the shoulder blades and beyond) are extremely weak and also very thin. I was raised by vegetarian parents, I only started eating meat when I was 22 or 23. I don't eat too much meat since I am scared to eat substandard animals raised on unnatural diets. I usually stick with grass fed lamb and canned Alaskan salmon (about 4 times a weak, I think I eat about 1200 - 1500 cals a day). I started weight lifting back in summer of 2010, didn't see good results since my diet was crap, I also injured my back while doing bent over rows and had to stop.

my question is, can I bulk up my arms without serious weight lifting? Even after so much practice, I can only do 3 pull ups :/

First things first, 3 pullups ain't bad. Remember that most of the western world is sitting in chairs all day long, going home and doing a few weary out of breath thrusts into someone else's junk and then plopping over unconscious to start over again tomorrow.

Most of the western world is heading in the direction of the sedentary cross-section and not the triathlete cross-section:


Anyhow, yes, you can progress with bodyweight exercises alone to the point where you're totally jacked. It just requires much more complex programming and generally a lot more time than with barbell movements, which is what you're seeing now since your progression is stalling. How do you get enough volume of work in when you're stuck at 3 pullups? That can be tricky. I'm not going to be a pain in the ass and tell you "NO YOU BARBELL NOW" since you're going to do what you want to do.

Look into Convict Conditioning, that's a popular bodyweight movement progression system.
 

balddemon

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guys I have a problem, my arms (from the shoulder blades and beyond) are extremely weak and also very thin. I was raised by vegetarian parents, I only started eating meat when I was 22 or 23. I don't eat too much meat since I am scared to eat substandard animals raised on unnatural diets. I usually stick with grass fed lamb and canned Alaskan salmon (about 4 times a weak, I think I eat about 1200 - 1500 cals a day). I started weight lifting back in summer of 2010, didn't see good results since my diet was crap, I also injured my back while doing bent over rows and had to stop.

my question is, can I bulk up my arms without serious weight lifting? Even after so much practice, I can only do 3 pull ups :/

If you're wanting to just do bodyweight stuff, there is a website with a bunch of different exercises with tutorials on how to do them. There are like 3 different levels of exercises. I can't remember what it's called atm since I'm at work, but I can find it for you when I get home unless someone else knows what I'm talking about.

edit: aha, it was in the OP. Look up Al Kavadlo.
 
Hey guys, I was wondering if you could comment on my squat form.

I'm a fan of high-bar deep squats, but that dreaded buttwink, man... I can't seem to get rid of it. It doesn't cause me any pain or discomfort, which is good, but I'd like to minimize it even more.

So, thoughts? Yeah, I know, wtf am I doing squatting in running shoes? lol

Cant help you on the squats, but I watched your L seated press to handstand video , very nice. Have you made any progress on that? Straight arms?
 

TheCrow

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Spent the whole day being disappointed that I only managed 1 rep at 130 earlier today on OHP. Considering that on my last cycle of 5/3/1 I did 3 reps at 125. However it just dawned on me that I actually put on a 45 plate and a 2.5, so I actually did 140. Now I'm feeling really good.

My bulk has been great for me in all my lifts and I still got 2 or 3 more cycles of 5/3/1 before my cut. Currently I'm 150lbs at 5'5, I'd like to get to 155 or 160 by April. Can't wait to see how I'll look after my cut.
 
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