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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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balddemon

Banned
got some new preworkouts to try. Last week was Pump Fuel (worked well), tomorrow is something called Black Powder Ultra, and then Friday (leg day with this crazy mofo) is Methyl Pump.

I love getting free samples and then trying different ones all the time lol.
 
What do you do with spotters who insist on lifting the weight with you in the bench press even though you told them not to, or come out of no where to ''spot'' you during reps? I just immediately stop.

They then think it's ego when it's clearly not, or else I would add 25 pounds and dudebro the reps out with a spotter.

I think I have a good idea now when to stop or when I have 1 more rep in me, and then I'm not afraid of shame rolling or calling for help when I fail.
 

velociraptor

Junior Member
I bought that powertec power rack for the basement at my old apartment. Worked fine, was ~$500 on amazon at the time, had the pullup grips and dip attachments, no issues with it. Recommended if you want something comprehensive and affordable for your home. Those safety bars came in handy a couple times...

Of course, power racks are pretty fucking big and will dominate any room they're in. A squat rack or even a couple squat stands will be a lot less obnoxious for your living space (can coexist in a normal room) and will cover you for squat/ohp/dead.
The Powertec Power Rack is precisely what I plan to buy for my home gym, so it's great to hear some positive feedback on it.

You know, I've always wanted a ceiling pullup bar. How safe are they? From what I understand, it has to be bolted on the ceiling joists. But, what if I do weighted pullups and chins? Is that dangerous?

My main reason to buy a ceiling pullup bar is so I can add gymnastic rings. This is something I want to try out, to complement my weight training. Gymnastic training looks balls to the walls awesome :O
 

Szu

Member
Did your surgery completely heal your cubital tunnel in your hands?

Not completely, but it's nothing of major loss.

My right hand is noticeably thinner than my left hand (and I'm a righty). I used to be able to do the Vulcan salute with both hands. Now, my right hand can't part the fingers in the middle.

I have trouble fully extending my fingers due to the loss of muscles on the back of my hand. However, my injury didn't get to the stage where my hand became the ulnar claw. Thank goodness for that.

You'll surprised at the little things that you can't do with an injury like mine. My biggest gripe was the loss of my pinching strength. I'm Chinese and I use chopsticks. It was actually a chore to try to hold them. I switched to using a fork like a barbarian, but even that had some issues. I didn't have the strength to use a nail clipper.

I happy to say that I've recovered most of those abilities, but clipping my toe nails is still a bit tricky.
 

Szu

Member
Damn. I'm not at the stage where my grip is affected, but if I had continued to lift through it I almost assuredly would be. Good to hear you're doing okay. Gives me a bit of hope. How long did it take you before you were back in the gym?

After the surgery, I was in a cast for about 10 days. I couldn't really do much except a hand squeezing exercise that my doctor recommended for me.

After those 10 days, the cast and staples were removed. My doctor gave me the go-ahead to get back to the gym, but I was only allowed to do cardio for about two weeks.

Almost a month after the surgery, I was allowed to hit the weights again. Of course, I had to use very light weight. For example, I was doing DB flat press with 25 lbs in each hand. I gradually increased the weight until my elbow joint became accustomed to the stress again.
 

MjFrancis

Member
Been doing upright rows?
I believe the movement is inherently bad.
Sorry to hear about that bud.
To expand on this belief, here's an excerpt from this article:

Clay Hyght said:
You should never do barbell upright rows. Period.

As with behind-the-neck presses, barbell upright rows do a good job of stimulating muscles (upper traps and medial delts). Unfortunately, they also do a good job of causing or aggravating shoulder impingement syndrome (SIS).

Shoulder impingement occurs when the tendon of the supraspinatus (a rotator cuff muscle) gets inflamed as a result of being repeatedly pressed against the bony acromion above it.

To test for impingement syndrome, doctors place the shoulder in positions that impinge, or pinch, the supraspinatus tendon. Then, if the patient demonstrates pain, the doctor has a good idea that there's some inflammation involved.

Neer's Test is one of the main orthopedic tests used for SIS. Here's how to do it: Forcefully elevate an internally-rotated arm in the scapular plane, causing the supraspinatus tendon to impinge against the anterior inferior acromion. In case you're unfamiliar with the motions described with Neer's Test, it's essentially the same motion as barbell upright rows.

Did you get that? The movement that doctors use to intentionally impinge the supraspinatus is basically the exact same motion as the barbell upright row!

Hopefully, a bell went off in your head: "Hmm, maybe upright rows aren't good for my shoulders."

For those of you who are going to do upright rows anyway, at least use dumbbells that allow you to widen your grip as you come up. This will be less insulting to your shoulders than the standard narrow-grip version done with a barbell.
 

crpav

Member
I have much to learn and improve upon when it comes to my squat but...

Z4KdKai.jpg
 

strobogo

Banned
I'm doing a 10,000 Kettlebell swing challenge. I've been doing at least 200 swings a day with a 25lb for 4 days. My legs are dead. Can't walk dead. It's a while since I've hurt so bad after a work out(s).
 
After my trip to New Orleans this month, I'm going to really clean up my diet. Still try to eat at a surplus but just be smarter about it. Drop some carbs and replace it with fat. This bloated feeling is starting to be too much.
 

Eidan

Member
After my trip to New Orleans this month, I'm going to really clean up my diet. Still try to eat at a surplus but just be smarter about it. Drop some carbs and replace it with fat. This bloated feeling is starting to be too much.

That's all good, but I want you to pig out in NO.

I seriously don't know how anyone can stay in shape in that city. The food is too delicious, the drinks too cheap, the temptations too hard to ignore.
 
That's all good, but I want you to pig out in NO.

I seriously don't know how anyone can stay in shape in that city. The food is too delicious, the drinks too cheap, the temptations too hard to ignore.

Dood, I am so excited. Gonna eat everything. I want some authentic gumbo. Going during Mardi Gras and it is my first time vising that city so yeah. Time to get buck lol.
 

f0nz0

Member
What do you do with spotters who insist on lifting the weight with you in the bench press even though you told them not to, or come out of no where to ''spot'' you during reps? I just immediately stop.

They then think it's ego when it's clearly not, or else I would add 25 pounds and dudebro the reps out with a spotter.

I think I have a good idea now when to stop or when I have 1 more rep in me, and then I'm not afraid of shame rolling or calling for help when I fail.

tell them to not touch the bar until you signal them to
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Dood, I am so excited. Gonna eat everything. I want some authentic gumbo. Going during Mardi Gras and it is my first time vising that city so yeah. Time to get buck lol.

Get a muffaletta sammich, gumbo, friend oyster and shrimp poboy, hurricanes, hand grenades, EVERYTHING.
 
Gym staff are pretty much don't care at my gym. People workout in jeans, even its against policy. Client first yada yada.

Better than the nazis at places like Planet Fitness.

And yet somehow I got chastised for squatting and deadlifting in my socks (I only had my running shoes that day and didn't want to wreck them, or myself).

5/3/1 while keto-cutting is killing me but this new triumvirate I got going on leg day is kickass. Split squats + Leg curl supersets, gets my heart racing and leaves my legs trembling on the way down the stairs. Still managing to get at least 1 more than the prescribed rep (6-7 on 5 days, 4 on 3 days, 2-3 on 1 days) for the last set.

I'm about to finish month 1, should I try and increase the weight or just maintain what I'm doing? I feel like I'm starting to hit a limit and it's probably only going to continue while I'm in negative calories every day.
 

Noema

Member
I need to buy 1lb plates for micro loading. Haven't gotten around to doing it yet.

Last night I had a dream wherein I found a store that sold 1lb plates.

They were also edible. And delicious.
 

Veezy

que?
I have much to learn and improve upon when it comes to my squat but...

http://i.imgur.com/Z4KdKai.jpg[IMG][/QUOTE]

To be clear, I'm not defending this...

However, technically, lifting on an incline, like most lifting shoes have you do, helps from an alignment and power standpoint versus any other type of shoe. That's why deadlifting, squatting, cleaning, and snatching in lifting shoes will always be better for you than other solutions. (There's also lifting in chucks, but that's a different discussion)

That being said.... fucking heels? Really? Props for squatting, but I just can't even...
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Gym yesterday. Guy on smith machine doing squats with other guy coaching. Let me illustrate.


smithmachine.png



Mouth agape.
 

Mayyhem

Member
^lol


btw, upright rows are bad? Why exactly? I tried doing them the past couple weeks and haven't really noticed anything negative.
 
Gym yesterday. Guy on smith machine doing squats with other guy coaching. Let me illustrate.


smithmachine.png



Mouth agape.

I don't understand it. Even at the gym I go to, which is mainly geared towards power and o-lifters, the trainers just let their clients get away with shitty squats. Surrounded by people squatting to at least parallel, the clients go down a few inches and get praised for it.

I'm legit surprised I haven't overhead, "Okay, why is that strong guy/girl over there doing squats a lot differently than me?" but I also assume the trainer will have some bullshit excuse about "powerlifting".
 

Cudder

Member
^lol


btw, upright rows are bad? Why exactly? I tried doing them the past couple weeks and haven't really noticed anything negative.

who says they're bad? I used to do them with the short barbells, now I just do them with a 45 plate. Pretty light, but doing 6 sets in quick succession kills my traps.

edit: the plates in my gym don't have holes for grabbing either, so grasping the plate with your hands also does a number on your forearms.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Douchebro has officially entered my vocabulary.

This group of 4 guys, one of which I see regularly at my gym were maxing out on the lat pulldown while grunting, yelling and "psyching eachother up." They proceeded to do this on other minor assistance work as well. Especially when females were around.

Give me a fucking break.


Also, there might actually be something to this carb backloading thing. Gonna give it a month or two before saying anything more though as it's not nearly been long enough to really say. Especially since I don't have the details of the entire program.
 

Mully

Member
Fuck I love my best friend to death, but he really scares me sometimes.

He graduated with a Bachelors in Physical Education and he's a defensive line coach, yet he does not know much about going to the gym. It's really annoying when he talks about brosciencey stuff.

"Oh man, I'm going to have buy a protein bar after this so I don't get sore."

"I want to gain weight, but I'm worried about getting too big that I lose my agility."

"Wearing a belt is going to mess with your back."

"I want to run more." (Does .5 miles once every month)

The guy is not in bad shape. He's pretty athletic. In high school, he was benching 225. squatting, 275, and DL 315 for reps as a Defensive Back. He can't put up anything close to those numbers now.

He's constantly complaining of soreness, cramps, or is too scared to do certain lifts he did in high school. I'm not pushing him towards anything because he's not really dedicated and kind of a pussy when it comes to hard work.

I know I can't instill that type of work ethic in him, but when someone is constantly complaining, you just want him to shut up and do it.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Fuck I love my best friend to death, but he really scares me sometimes.

He graduated with a Bachelors in Physical Education and he's a defensive line coach, yet he does not know much about going to the gym. It's really annoying when he talks about brosciencey stuff.



The guy is not in bad shape. He's pretty athletic. In high school, he was benching 225. squatting, 275, and DL 315 for reps as a Defensive Back. He can't put up anything close to those numbers now, but

He's constantly complaining of soreness, cramps, or is too scared to do certain lifts he did in high school. I'm not pushing him towards anything because he's not really dedicated and kind of a pussy when it comes to hard work.

I know I can't instill that type of work ethic in him, but when someone is constantly complaining, you just want him to shut up and do it.

Sounds like he's probably a shitty coach that's gonna do more harm than good.
 

Petrie

Banned
^lol

btw, upright rows are bad? Why exactly? I tried doing them the past couple weeks and haven't really noticed anything negative.

who says they're bad? .

http://www.t-nation.com/portal_includes/articles/2011/11-659-01.html

The science says they're bad.


You should never do barbell upright rows. Period.

As with behind-the-neck presses, barbell upright rows do a good job of stimulating muscles (upper traps and medial delts). Unfortunately, they also do a good job of causing or aggravating shoulder impingement syndrome (SIS).

Shoulder impingement occurs when the tendon of the supraspinatus (a rotator cuff muscle) gets inflamed as a result of being repeatedly pressed against the bony acromion above it.

To test for impingement syndrome, doctors place the shoulder in positions that impinge, or pinch, the supraspinatus tendon. Then, if the patient demonstrates pain, the doctor has a good idea that there's some inflammation involved.

Neer's Test is one of the main orthopedic tests used for SIS. Here's how to do it: Forcefully elevate an internally-rotated arm in the scapular plane, causing the supraspinatus tendon to impinge against the anterior inferior acromion. In case you're unfamiliar with the motions described with Neer's Test, it's essentially the same motion as barbell upright rows.

Did you get that? The movement that doctors use to intentionally impinge the supraspinatus is basically the exact same motion as the barbell upright row!

Hopefully, a bell went off in your head: "Hmm, maybe upright rows aren't good for my shoulders."

For those of you who are going to do upright rows anyway, at least use dumbbells that allow you to widen your grip as you come up. This will be less insulting to your shoulders than the standard narrow-grip version done with a barbell.

Reposting from above.
 

Szu

Member
After watching the bodyweight exercise video that I posted yesterday, I decided to incorporate some of the routines in my leg workout that night.

After warming up on an Elliptical machine for 5 minutes with moderate resistance, I improvised my first routine with pistol squats. Since I'm still a bit rusty, I could only manage set of 3-6 reps before I lost my balance. I decided to super-set the pistol squat with a hack squat press routine.

I followed this up with sets of leg raises, hamstrings curls, hip abductors, hip inductors, and calves raises.

Then, I decided to do a large set of ab/core workouts which consisted of hanging wipes, hanging straight leg raises, hanging side leg raises, and hanging leg circles. During my rest between the ab workouts, I did one legged box jumps.

It was pretty intense.
 

PBY

Banned
Finally think I settled on my "intermediate/advanced" bb/strength style routine. Any thoughts? It seems to be working fine for me, overwork hasn't been an issue

Monday:
Front Squat- 4/8
Bench- 3/5
Dead- 3/5
Weighted Dips 4/6-8
Weighted Pulls

Wed:
Front Squat- 4/8
Press- 3/5
Clean- 5/3

All of the following are from Keleis routine, IE 50 reps at your 10 rep max, w/ thirty seconds of rest b/w each set http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146471313

Thurs -
- Bench press, incline bench press, rope pressdowns, overhead dumbbell extensions (single arm), dumbbell side laterals

Fri:
- Chin-ups, pull-ups, chest-supported rows (or seated rows), rear delt flyes, preacher curls

Sat:
Romanian deadlifts, front squats, leg curls, leg extensions, standing calf raises, seated calf raises
 
After watching the bodyweight exercise video that I posted yesterday, I decided to incorporate some of the routines in my leg workout that night.

After warming up on an Elliptical machine for 5 minutes with moderate resistance, I improvised my first routine with pistol squats. Since I'm still a bit rusty, I could only manage set of 3-6 reps before I lost my balance. I decided to super-set the pistol squat with a hack squat press routine.

I followed this up with sets of leg raises, hamstrings curls, hip abductors, hip inductors, and calves raises.

Then, I decided to do a large set of ab/core workouts which consisted of hanging wipes, hanging straight leg raises, hanging side leg raises, and hanging leg circles. During my rest between the ab workouts, I did one legged box jumps.

It was pretty intense.

Nice nice. I want to do more bw exercises but man, I just feel so dumb doing them cause they are a complete 180 of what I normally do so I'm just floundering out there haha.

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Pretty meh day at the gym today. I felt like I blew my load on 5/3/1 OHP getting 11 @ 150 but the rests of my lifts suffered afterwards. Like I threw all my energy into it. DB Press and side/front raises were not at my best.

That being said, I really love doing facepulls. So damn good.

Finally think I settled on my "intermediate/advanced" bb/strength style routine. Any thoughts? It seems to be working fine for me, overwork hasn't been an issue

Monday:
Front Squat- 4/8
Bench- 3/5
Dead- 3/5
Weighted Dips 4/6-8
Weighted Pulls

Wed:
Front Squat- 4/8
Press- 3/5
Clean- 5/3

All of the following are from Keleis routine, IE 50 reps at your 10 rep max, w/ thirty seconds of rest b/w each set http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146471313

Thurs -
- Bench press, incline bench press, rope pressdowns, overhead dumbbell extensions (single arm), dumbbell side laterals

Fri:
- Chin-ups, pull-ups, chest-supported rows (or seated rows), rear delt flyes, preacher curls

Sat:
Romanian deadlifts, front squats, leg curls, leg extensions, standing calf raises, seated calf raises

I've done something similar to the Keleis routine and it kicks your ass but I only did that 3 days a week and that was it. Doing your Monday and Wednesday routine would prolly drain everything out of me.
 
I read up and my symptoms are almost word for word shoulder impingement, this sucks.

I had a moderate shoulder impingement last year from slalom water skiing. Was a real pain in the butt to wait for it to go away. It was bad enough for a couple of weeks that I couldn't even pick up my kids or get a cup off of a higher shelf in the kitchen without moderate pain in my shoulder. Sorry to hear that you got it, get some PT and get it cleaned up as soon as you can.
 

Doodis

Member
I continually have shoulder problems. My right shoulder pops out of joint really easily, and can be a problem when I'm doing pullups and OHP. It's been that way for several years (though I've only been lifting for about one). Really a pain.
 
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