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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Dash27

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Anyone have a good article, video or resource that helped them on power cleans? It's my latest obsession to improve these. A friend of mine is pushing near 300# clean and jerk. I am... not.


Here's what daily fasting, 2-3 dozen eggs a week, 4-5 nights of red meat for dinner and copious quantities of whey protein does for my blood cholesterol:

Nice. Good to see that. i have to get mine checked out of curiosity, not concern.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I really wish I had a gopro strapped to me all morning...such lulz at the gym.

It first started getting out of the car and almost run over by some douchebag in one of those graphic t-shirts...

So I start bench pressing and he walks over with his girlfriend on the bench behind me, and he's showing off etc. The girl is working out with 5 pound weights. Most of the workout is just her watching him and him just sounding like a douche.

Then there's this older guy, guessing 50 years old who starts deadlifting right in front of me with really bad form...225-265 pounds, rounded back, elbows bent, and arching his back backwards at the top of the lift. Thankfully he was wearing a weight belt.

I didn't have it in me to say anything because I'm still relatively new to deadlifting myself, but I've read enough of SS and watched enough videos to see this guy is going to destroy a disc.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I've quickly learned to just stay away from suggestions at the gym. Anyone I've offered casual advice to has snapped at me. I lead with a compliment too! But both times the guys were like "yeah well blah blah blah!"

Now I just let my lifting buddy do it because he's huge
 

CrankyJay

Banned
I've quickly learned to just stay away from suggestions at the gym. Anyone I've offered casual advice to has snapped at me. I lead with a compliment too! But both times the guys were like "yeah well blah blah blah!"

Now I just let my lifting buddy do it because he's huge

I'm sure that reaction is from surprise and embarrassment. I'd hate a guy to wreck his back like that, but I'm not sure he would believe me.
 

SeanR1221

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I'm sure that reaction is from surprise and embarrassment. I'd hate a guy to wreck his back like that, but I'm not sure he would believe me.

Guy 1 was doing OHP and was throwing his back out to an embarrassing degree. This was after he was jumping up and down during tricep push downs with the rope.

Guy 2 was deadlifting in the smith. His lock out put him on the weirdest slant.
 

rando14

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Here's what daily fasting, 2-3 dozen eggs a week, 4-5 nights of red meat for dinner and copious quantities of whey protein does for my blood cholesterol:

Total Cholesterol: 154mg/dL
LDL: 96mg/dL
HDL: 51mg/dL
Triglycerides: 36mg/dL
LDL/HDL Ratio: 1.9

If anything I'm wondering if numbers here are too low, but I suppose that's to be discussed with the doctor.

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That's awesome mj!
 

PBY

Banned
I really wish I had a gopro strapped to me all morning...such lulz at the gym.

It first started getting out of the car and almost run over by some douchebag in one of those graphic t-shirts...

So I start bench pressing and he walks over with his girlfriend on the bench behind me, and he's showing off etc. The girl is working out with 5 pound weights. Most of the workout is just her watching him and him just sounding like a douche.

Then there's this older guy, guessing 50 years old who starts deadlifting right in front of me with really bad form...225-265 pounds, rounded back, elbows bent, and arching his back backwards at the top of the lift. Thankfully he was wearing a weight belt.

I didn't have it in me to say anything because I'm still relatively new to deadlifting myself, but I've read enough of SS and watched enough videos to see this guy is going to destroy a disc.
Sucks- but don't be that guy. No one wants unsolicited gym advice.
 

MjFrancis

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Nice. Good to see that. i have to get mine checked out of curiosity, not concern.

That's awesome mj!
Gracias, fellas.

I've been considering what's in the OP and how it can be tightened up or streamlined. Specifically the part that I slapped together and landed in OT2 that's still hanging around. It could use a lot of editing with what I've figured out in the time since.

Throwing ideas around here. Anyone feel free to chime in.

Emphasize strength. It's not barbell training, but an emphasis on leverage tricks to make movements more difficult should be better explored i.e. working from a squat as a beginner to a full pistol squat.

Lay out programming for people to follow. This is really, really freaking important. The grease the groove system gets some highlights, but that's it. Taking a few core movements and bringing them into a weekly routine could really help someone out.

Define the basic movements as succinctly as possible. And not only that, define what bodyweight movements are essential. I'd say squats, chins, push-ups, leg raises and bridges are essential. Dips, handstand push-ups, muscle-ups and levers are awesome though less essential in my less than humble opinion.

Finally, more input from people on here or experts on the internet who have focused on bodyweight-only routines. I've never done bodyweight-only stuff and never pretended to, as much as I played around with those movements. I was always doing something with a barbell even if it was only squatting or deadlifting.

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Oh, I've also long since decided you do 150 bodyweight squats when you're confined in a prison cell and that's it. There's much more rewarding conditioning work out there.
 

andycapps

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Starting Strength day 2 is tonight. I'm kind of nervous about it. Still trying to decide if I'm going to attempt power cleans my first week or if I want to try to master the squat and such before attempting to integrate that. I'd do pullups/chinups until such time.
 

despire

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Starting Strength day 2 is tonight. I'm kind of nervous about it. Still trying to decide if I'm going to attempt power cleans my first week or if I want to try to master the squat and such before attempting to integrate that. I'd do pullups/chinups until such time.

I think Rip says to first get familiar with the other movements and especially deadlift before trying cleans. I think the advice was to introduce them after couple of weeks when deadlifting is a second nature.
 

andycapps

Member
I think Rip says to first get familiar with the other movements and especially deadlift before trying cleans. I think the advice was to introduce them after couple of weeks when deadlifting is a second nature.

My deadlifting form is pretty decent (making some slight corrections today), but squats still need more time and practice. Today is first time with the press, so I've got to practice that too. I just don't want to spend 2 hours in the basement again working on multiple things. So yeah, I guess I'll wait on the cleans. Was leaning that way, but if Rip recommends it, then I'll definitely wait a couple weeks.
 

theytookourjobz

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Yeah. They are just the Pendlay dowins rebranded as Rogue. I would recommend spending a few extra dollars and getting the Nike Romaleos or the Adidas Adistar shoes if you are serious about lifting though. The rogues/pendlays are 100% fine but you might find yourself wishing you spent the money up front for the top end shoes like me.
 

ToxicAdam

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Why do people bench press with their feet in the air? I don't get it.


It helps keep your back on the bench so you don't cheat. Although, you can do that without putting your feet in air also.


I had a training buddy that would do it on his last set of a drop set.
 

balddemon

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I need to take better care of my legs. my left quad is very tight from taking knees in basketball, and after the 2nd or 3rd one I didn't let it recover completely. as a result, it tightens up and my knee and hip become sore as I play. I've started foam rolling and/or stretching afterwards. it helps, but I wish I had done this before. I'm gonna have to take advantage of the $25 massage special my gym is doing haha.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
It helps keep your back on the bench so you don't cheat. Although, you can do that without putting your feet in air also.


I had a training buddy that would do it on his last set of a drop set.

Your back (lower) can come off the bench (arch) it's your ass that shouldn't come off...
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Wow, I never knew that. Guys would always ride other guys if they were constantly arching their back or relying too much on pushing with their legs.

Well, there's a bit more to it than that. The arching of the lower back should coincide with pulling your shoulders back, effectively making your arms shorter such that you're making the bar travel less of a distance.
 

Veezy

que?
You do work your abs more if you keep your back down.

Doing bench without the arch isn't as safe and doesn't have the same efficacy as doing them properly. There is zero reason to do bench with your knees up.

That's not some elitist bull shit opinion, either. It's a waste of time and you can seriously hurt yourself. Why take the risk when there are 5691+812849849+8419+849+841984916814968436494169841698146984 abdominal exercises out there?
 
Have any of you added yoga to your regimen? Recently started doing it while on PHAT. Really love how relaxed I feel after.

I went for the first time the other day cause my friend does it. It strikes me as just a longer version of something like this which I've been doing. (posted in this thread iirc)
Only big difference being that the youtube video is 12 intense minutes and then finished, yoga (at least the class I went to) alternates between difficult balancing/stretching and relaxing periods. Obviously yoga makes one feel more relaxed but at the end of the day is it any more beneficial? A lot more time consuming.

Oh and there's the fact yoga is cultural and spiritual but the gym classes didn't seem to really get into any of that.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
It finally dawned on my to fucking widen my squat stance....it seems to have fixed a bunch of the little issues I have been having with my squat. Got nice and low, and it helped shift move weight to my heels.

Also, new PR on OHP...

125 x 3
125 x 2

I'll see if I can hit 130 next week...
 

agrajag

Banned
finally stopped being a pussy and benched a plate, no spotter. Was able to do a couple of reps, then put on 5 more lbs on each side and was able to do a single. It was at the end of my sets, so I should be able to rep it for five next time. A little personal milestone for me, I started off being able to bench 95 last year.. Today I'm going to see if I can pull two plates and break another personal best!
 

Petrie

Banned
It's painful watching my mother keep pouring money into "fitness". She's always been a serial dieter doing whatever the new weight loss contest was at work along with the newest trendy diet. She did one day of SS with me 2 months ago and was turned off by the initial pain 2 days later, and now all these "trainers" have convinced her that was a horrible idea for someone who never worked out before because "she's never squated before" so obviously she can't handle squatting with the bar. Just paid $700 for a personal trainer this month instead, so she can have someone tell her what she wants to hear. Last year it was zumba which turned into just dropping a grand on outfits she never used along with classes.

Not looking for any help at this point, just needed to vent to my crew here. Fuck guys, her wanting me to support her on each new trend is painful, she loves the gym manager and hates me, her son, cause I won't tell her what she wants to hear.
 
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