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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Keen

Aliens ate my babysitter
Today, against my better judgment, I went during peak after-work hours, and all of the squat racks were in use.

One guy was standing in front of a squat rack slamming a giant ball down on the ground repeatedly.

Another one had brought a set of dumbbells to curl in front of a squat rack because that rack had a mirror, and you can't dumbbell curl without standing in front of a mirror.

A third guy had brought a flat bench, put it in front of a squat rack, put a barbell on the floor in between, and was rolling the barbell up and down the floor while laying on the bench.


Wow, sounds like complete amateur hour.

Yeah, I usually try to go on my lunch break. Far fewer people, and usually, today being an exception, less shenanigans.
 

entremet

Member
I usually go 7-10pm. People start clearing out around 8pm thankfully. The New Year's Resolutioners are almost gone. Like clockwork every year lol.
 

Zoe

Member
The problem with going at a non-peak time is you're not the only one with that idea, and those others feel they can take their sweet time doing the whole routine.
 

SeanR1221

Member
I usually go 7-10pm. People start clearing out around 8pm thankfully. The New Year's Resolutioners are almost gone. Like clockwork every year lol.

But prepare for the beach body crew in may.

"I have one month until I'm going to the beach!"

One thing I do find sad is I see the same few people on my Facebook always posting "ok, NOW I'm getting back to the gym." They post some pictures of themselves post workout and sweaty, mention their goal ("wedding is almost here!") And then fall off...again and again and again.

Old habits die hard, you know?
 

sphinx

the piano man
The problem with going at a non-peak time is you're not the only one with that idea, and those others feel they can take their sweet time doing the whole routine.

lol so true, I once went 11:00 am on freaking thursday and thought " Everybody is at work/school, I'll be able to enjoy myself and take my time watching form and basically do what I want".

but there was this ONE guy who wouldn't move the fuck away from the only small Squat/Deadlift non-smith machine area in my gym (yeah, cheap gym).

as that didn't work, I just go straight there regardless of the hour and ask whatever guy is there how long he needs, he will up his pace and I use whatever time he needs to warm-up back/shoulders/etc. doing light bodyweight and stretching in the nearby area, it has worked much better than expecting the place to be emtpy at an specific hour.
 

MrToughPants

Brian Burke punched my mom
Today, against my better judgment, I went during peak after-work hours, and all of the squat racks were in use.

One guy was standing in front of a squat rack slamming a giant ball down on the ground repeatedly.

Another one had brought a set of dumbbells to curl in front of a squat rack because that rack had a mirror, and you can't dumbbell curl without standing in front of a mirror.

A third guy had brought a flat bench, put it in front of a squat rack, put a barbell on the floor in between, and was rolling the barbell up and down the floor while laying on the bench.

Why don't you just buy the gym?

:p
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Today, against my better judgment, I went during peak after-work hours, and all of the squat racks were in use.

One guy was standing in front of a squat rack slamming a giant ball down on the ground repeatedly.

Another one had brought a set of dumbbells to curl in front of a squat rack because that rack had a mirror, and you can't dumbbell curl without standing in front of a mirror.

A third guy had brought a flat bench, put it in front of a squat rack, put a barbell on the floor in between, and was rolling the barbell up and down the floor while laying on the bench.

Mornings or bust. Nothing like going going after work and seeing 6 person workout groups watching their buddies get swole.
 

ToxicAdam

Member
What I love about going to the gym is that you see something new almost every night. Last night I saw a guy doing ab wheel rollouts with a 45 lb plate on his back.
 

bjb

Banned
What I love about going to the gym is that you see something new almost every night. Last night I saw a guy doing ab wheel rollouts with a 45 lb plate on his back.

I've seen this before. Also people doing push-ups with weights on their back too.
 

Szu

Member
What I love about going to the gym is that you see something new almost every night. Last night I saw a guy doing ab wheel rollouts with a 45 lb plate on his back.

I saw a guy with what looked like a white mullet that resembled a poodle stapled to his head doing lat pulldowns.

I think I got the short end of the stick.
 

Petrie

Banned
ONE night of sleeping properly instead in the contorted positions my g/f wants to be in, and all the shoulder pain for the last 10 days is gone.

Holy shit.
 

Ominym

Banned
I always see one guy at my gym who comes in wearing compression shorts (as in the kind most would wear as underwear) and a t-shirt. Also, sometimes he wears a baseball cap. You know, in case it gets sunny in the gym.
 

Petrie

Banned
Dump her ;)

That's awesome though. Time to lift big!

I'm going to be smart and still give it today and tomorrow. Back to the gym on Friday if it holds up though.

Apparently sleeping with your arm held up awkwardly above you isn't good for your shoulder. Who would've thought?
 

otapnam

Member
I'm going to be smart and still give it today and tomorrow. Back to the gym on Friday if it holds up though.

Apparently sleeping with your arm held up awkwardly above you isn't good for your shoulder. Who would've thought?

Yeah i messed up my shoulder sleeping with my arm under my wife before we were married.

We have a king bed now ;)
 

andycapps

Member
First day of Starting Strength was yesterday. First time ever doing squats, so I took it pretty slow and worked up to my starting weight (according to method in the wiki), which I determined to be 95 lbs. I can already tell that doing squats and deadlifts is going to be intense, I feel like deads already took so much out of me that doing squats same day is going to be a challenge once newb gains wear off. I still started low because I know it's going to get real tough, real fast. I recorded a video of my form on the exercises and sent it to a friend that's been doing the routine for quite a while, and he critiqued quite a bit. Little too self conscious to post form videos here yet.

Anybody ever have problems going to sleep after working out? I seem to only have this problem after I do a pretty intense workout, but I had finished working out 4 hours before I tried to go to sleep. Sleep is important obviously, so I couldn't afford to lay there forever before going to sleep, so after half an hour I took half a pill of melatonin. That did the trick of course, but then I feel groggy the next morning.
 

Szu

Member
ONE night of sleeping properly instead in the contorted positions my g/f wants to be in, and all the shoulder pain for the last 10 days is gone.

Holy shit.

I know how you feel, bro.
Sleeping+couple.jpg
 

Petrie

Banned
Yeah i messed up my shoulder sleeping with my arm under my wife before we were married.

We have a king bed now ;)

We have a queen. It isn't the size, it's the damn position she wants to be in the "cuddle". I flat out told her I can't lay that way anymore though, it's wrecking my shoulder.
 
First week of Starting Strength: "Hot dog, this is easy, I'm a regular AlienShogun"

Second week of Starting Strength: "FUCK Squats. FUCK Deadlifts. FUCK EVERYTHING."
 

MjFrancis

Member
Got my son's 4 month check-up yesterday and my wife also got me scheduled since I haven't seen the doctor for a routine check-up this century.

First thing that is funny is that I'm told I am at the upper end of a "normal" BMI - 24.5. Then it's noticed that I've put on over 15 pounds since my last visit 5 months ago for flu shots and such. There was considerable dismay when I told them that this was intentional and I didn't even remember to mention I was heavier but I've since settled down. Of course I was told to buck this trend.

Sentiment changes in short order when the doctor actually starts the examination and feels my aorta on my abdomen, which is apparently abnormal. Worried about my weight only moments ago I'm now called "skinny". When testing for leg reflexes and such the doctor looks and my legs and says "You squat a lot, don't you?" Why yes, doctor, I do. Then I get a piece of completely unexpected advice. "Your vastus lateralis is noticably bigger than your vastus medialis" - same problem Falling Edge has expressed though given our disparity in size it's obviously on a different scale - "You should work on getting the medialis bigger to offset any possible pressure on your knee from the disparity in strength and size." That's paraphrasing on that last part - specific concerns were mentioned that I've since forgotten since all I heard was that a doctor was on board with bigger tree trunks.

The last piece of the visit I'm still waiting on is bloodwork results. The doctor's only concern since I am healthy in all empirical respects was my cholesterol levels. I told the doctor I eat heartily and consume vast quantities of red meat and eggs. This brings up some red flags, but really I have no idea what I'll see either. I'll get the results in later this morning or afternoon, and so the next phase of my bulk depends entirely upon what's discovered in my bloodwork. If something is amiss, I'll "clean" bulk and slowly build up. If I'm healthy I'll resume my quest to cultivate mass.

My son's appointment went well too, and so far as fitness for a 4 month is concerned, he's healthy. Cranky, given he received a needle in either leg, but healthy.
 

Veezy

que?
I need to get some new running shoes, since my current pair is four years old. I have been looking around, and I want to know what some of you think of these particular shoes:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058XPT82/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I am doing the couch to 5k program, and I have been running on the roads/sidewalk (preparing myself for the Navy).

I am fan of Mizuno shoes, myself. They have everything from thin shoes for prone running, distance, etc. However, I'm no expert with that. I generally get info on running/endurance shit from my boy that runs Ironmans.
 

andycapps

Member
I hate cuddling in bed, always makes my arm fall completely asleep. Plus, I just can't sleep that way. It makes me want to do other things, which are perfectly fine with me, but if I'm wanting to actually sleep, it's never that way.

Do you guys think BCAA pills are as good as the powder? Wondering because the capsules are significantly cheaper.
 

ezrarh

Member
I hate cuddling in bed, always makes my arm fall completely asleep. Plus, I just can't sleep that way. It makes me want to do other things, which are perfectly fine with me, but if I'm wanting to actually sleep, it's never that way.

Do you guys think BCAA pills are as good as the powder? Wondering because the capsules are significantly cheaper.

Easier to ingest the amount you need via powder, otherwise you're taking in 8 to 10 pills a day.
 

sphinx

the piano man
First week of Starting Strength: "Hot dog, this is easy, I'm a regular AlienShogun"

Second week of Starting Strength: "FUCK Squats. FUCK Deadlifts. FUCK EVERYTHING."

not saying VJ is doing SS wrong but is this reaction in the second week a sign that he may not be doing the program?

I remember there was this explanation by Rippetoe about how is very easy to fail at doing SS if one doesn't pay attention to other variables besides the lifts
 
Form check!

Deadlift 425x1 @ 204 lbs.

Okay, so I am trying to figure out why my deadlift is only 5-10 lbs heavier than my squat. You'll notice that 425 is pretty smooth--I could maybe have gotten 3, but the variation of 5/3/1 I'm on calls for just hitting the prescribed reps.

However, squatting 420x1 last week was similarly "easy"--I could have definitely had 2 reps, but just got 1.

I am expecting my dead to be 30-50 lbs heavier than my squat, so I have to think there is something with my form. Some advice I've already gotten:

-Don't spend so much time in the whole, or at least in the "squatted" position--a big deadlifter at my gym said he may grip the bar, but stay kinda straight legged until he's ready to pull. At that point, he basically pulls the bar and himself "into" position and lifts
-Set my hips a bit higher. I have short legs and a long torso, so it's easy for me to do a "deep" deadlift position, but maybe if I raised my hips a bit, it would help my leverage.

Any thoughts are welcome--thanks.
 

ezrarh

Member
Form check!

Deadlift 425x1 @ 204 lbs.

Okay, so I am trying to figure out why my deadlift is only 5-10 lbs heavier than my squat. You'll notice that 425 is pretty smooth--I could maybe have gotten 3, but the variation of 5/3/1 I'm on calls for just hitting the prescribed reps.

However, squatting 420x1 last week was similarly "easy"--I could have definitely had 2 reps, but just got 1.

I am expecting my dead to be 30-50 lbs heavier than my squat, so I have to think there is something with my form. Some advice I've already gotten:

-Don't spend so much time in the whole, or at least in the "squatted" position--a big deadlifter at my gym said he may grip the bar, but stay kinda straight legged until he's ready to pull. At that point, he basically pulls the bar and himself "into" position and lifts
-Set my hips a bit higher. I have short legs and a long torso, so it's easy for me to do a "deep" deadlift position, but maybe if I raised my hips a bit, it would help my leverage.

Any thoughts are welcome--thanks.

I'm by no means a deadlift expert but my deadlift is also only 10 lbs heavier than my squat (410 for squat and 420 for deadlift 1rep maxes @ ~148) but from the video, it seems like you were weaker from the floor initially. I also have the same issue according to my lifting buddy. I'll look like I have trouble getting it off the ground but make the lockout look easy. I've read and been told to improve that initial get up and to do that you have to improve your initial force off the ground. A couple things to improve that would be deficit deadlifts and speed pulls, which is also why I'm looking to give the Westside template a try.

This article has many good suggestions:

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...raining_performance_repair/deadlift_diagnosis
 

Veezy

que?
Form check!

Deadlift 425x1 @ 204 lbs.

Okay, so I am trying to figure out why my deadlift is only 5-10 lbs heavier than my squat. You'll notice that 425 is pretty smooth--I could maybe have gotten 3, but the variation of 5/3/1 I'm on calls for just hitting the prescribed reps.

However, squatting 420x1 last week was similarly "easy"--I could have definitely had 2 reps, but just got 1.

I am expecting my dead to be 30-50 lbs heavier than my squat, so I have to think there is something with my form. Some advice I've already gotten:

-Don't spend so much time in the whole, or at least in the "squatted" position--a big deadlifter at my gym said he may grip the bar, but stay kinda straight legged until he's ready to pull. At that point, he basically pulls the bar and himself "into" position and lifts
-Set my hips a bit higher. I have short legs and a long torso, so it's easy for me to do a "deep" deadlift position, but maybe if I raised my hips a bit, it would help my leverage.

Any thoughts are welcome--thanks.

The quick ass bounce you did up and down to set your grip is going to cost you some tightness. This is how I do my DLs, and it sets me perfectly every time:


Execution: Once the proper position is assumed, the last step before the bar breaks the
floor happens in two parts.
1. The lifter takes all of the “slack” out of the bar, creating as much tightness as
possible.
2. The lifter pushes his or her butt to the rear until they experience the sensation that
they are going to lose their balance and fall over.
As soon as the lifter experiences that sensation, the bar is squeezed off of the ground and
lifted until the hips and knees are extended and the lifter is standing upright. This
completes the deadlift.
Returning the bar to the ground involves reversing the process “loosely”, resisting gravity
only enough to slow the bars descent and keep it from free-falling to the floor, creating a
loud, douchey crash.

When you do that quick up and down, you may pull with your back more than your glutes, which is no bueno.
 

grumble

Member
not saying VJ is doing SS wrong but is this reaction in the second week a sign that he may not be doing the program?

I remember there was this explanation by Rippetoe about how is very easy to fail at doing SS if one doesn't pay attention to other variables besides the lifts

Well I think it might have been a little tongue in cheek. What seemed like it was easy on day one seems a lot heavier when you've added 50 pounds onto your squat in two weeks. If you start at 95 lbs, then you can double your squat in under a month.

It's true though that if you don't eat right, get some sleep and monitor other physical activity (ie running 10k every day will mess up your ability to recover and adapt), you will hit walls you'd otherwise breeze through. A lot of it is mental too; when your squat starts getting into the high 200s and beyond, squats can feel HEAVY even when you can do them, and the effort required activates your fight-or-flight response system which makes things intense and scary. Willpower!
 
In this article, it says that Derrick Rose started lifting weights after his ACL tear and is now squatting 300-350 lbs. Is that good for a professional athlete that is 6'3" and weighs 190 lbs? Do NBA players usually do squats?
 

Cagey

Banned
Having to stop the end of a chest workout due to shoulder pain performing cable flyes is bad times. Irritating, given heavy pressing movements are relatively pain/stress free.

I know how you feel, bro.
Sleeping+couple.jpg

No matter where you are on the bed, she will subconsciously find you and annex your sleeping space.
 

Pavaloo

Member
My opinion is that you should drop the weight on the squats and go below parallel. 275 for 5 doing a full range of motion is much more impressive than 3 plates of half squats.

Well I am going at parallel with my legs so it's not really a half-squat, right?. Like my ass is definitely going beneath my knees when I hit the bottom of my squat, but I'm most certainly not going as to grass. That's not that bad right?
parallel_squat_position.jpg
 

Veezy

que?
Well I am going at parallel with my legs so it's not really a half-squat, right?. Like my ass is definitely going beneath my knees when I hit the bottom of my squat, but I'm most certainly not going as to grass. That's not that bad right?
parallel_squat_position.jpg

You only need to go low enough to where the top of the leg is parallel.
 

theytookourjobz

Junior Member
In this article, it says that Derrick Rose started lifting weights after his ACL tear and is now squatting 300-350 lbs. Is that good for a professional athlete that is 6'3" and weighs 190 lbs? Do NBA players usually do squats?

YouTube the video of Trent Richardson or RG3 working out. Both guys lift ridiculous weight. Forget their exact numbers but the strength coach at Bama said Richardson was such a beast he had to limit the weight he could use.
 

Cudder

Member
Are cable exercises (tricep pushdowns, cable crossovers, etc) considered machine exercises, or do they lean more towards free weights?
 

MjFrancis

Member
Here's what daily fasting, 2-3 dozen eggs a week, 4-5 nights of red meat for dinner and copious quantities of whey protein does for my blood cholesterol:

Total Cholesterol: 154mg/dL
LDL: 96mg/dL
HDL: 51mg/dL
Triglycerides: 36mg/dL
LDL/HDL Ratio: 1.9

If anything I'm wondering if numbers here are too low, but I suppose that's to be discussed with the doctor.

cholesterol-range-chart.gif
 

grumble

Member
Are cable exercises (tricep pushdowns, cable crossovers, etc) considered machine exercises, or do they lean more towards free weights?

It's a grey area. I'd consider them closer to free weights, as you have the ability to move the grips in any direction and there's no set path for the resistance. They aren't free weights though, and I sometimes question the usefulness of cable movements in a workout program. Maybe kneeling cable pulldowns or something?
 

otapnam

Member
YouTube the video of Trent Richardson or RG3 working out. Both guys lift ridiculous weight. Forget their exact numbers but the strength coach at Bama said Richardson was such a beast he had to limit the weight he could use.

Those are football players though, alot of NBA guys are notorious for not spending enough time in the weight room

If im not mistaken, the bench press @ the nba draft combine is set at 185 not the 225 the NFL is
 

grumble

Member
Here's what daily fasting, 2-3 dozen eggs a week, 4-5 nights of red meat for dinner and copious quantities of whey protein does for my blood cholesterol:

Total Cholesterol: 154mg/dL
LDL: 96mg/dL
HDL: 51mg/dL
Triglycerides: 36mg/dL
LDL/HDL Ratio: 1.9

If anything I'm wondering if numbers here are too low, but I suppose that's to be discussed with the doctor.

cholesterol-range-chart.gif

im not a doctor but that looks perfect to me.
 

Wynnebeck

Banned
Hey there guys. I used to be a gym rat in Japan when I was in the Air Force but after getting out and coming back to America I've gotten lazy and out of shape. Normally running and exercise would get me back together but I'm an ectomorph with a high metabolism. I didn't realize it but in Japan I was doing a lot of isolation type exercises with the only real core stuff was the leg press and bench press. My question is: what exercises should I be doing to build myself up? 6'0", 161lbs by the way.
 

despire

Member
Hey there guys. I used to be a gym rat in Japan when I was in the Air Force but after getting out and coming back to America I've gotten lazy and out of shape. Normally running and exercise would get me back together but I'm an ectomorph with a high metabolism. I didn't realize it but in Japan I was doing a lot of isolation type exercises with the only real core stuff was the leg press and bench press. My question is: what exercises should I be doing to build myself up? 6'0", 161lbs by the way.

Did you read the OP?
 
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