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[mooooose]

I def fucked around, got advice from friends and gym bros. Didn't know you were on dat SS train mooosey, good shit.


Also- put up 50 goddam reps of 225 on bench today (not in one go obvi)... but damn, felt good. Kelei's routine is kicking my ass.

ya i fucked around too much and now im actually seeing progress. i didnt go from late nov to
feb, so i regressed a ton, but now that im doing ss religiously and eating like a horse im seeing progress rapidly. ill probably be at my max strength in like two months.

Its the Kelei routine from bb.com, so I went

1 set of 10, and then 3 reps every 30 seconds til I got to 50

jesus bruh bruh here i am thinking im hot shit with my 3x5 155 bench lol

 

[balddemon]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=146471313

hmm. looks like fun, but I don't know if this is what I want to do. I need explosion and strength more than anything....but I also want to stay the same weight or lose weight (currently 185).

 

[Wolfe]

Did anyone ever just go to the gym, do SS from the get go, and see improvement? Or did all of us have like, a year of fucking around and not seeing the right amount of improvement? I know I did.

The former sounds like me, started back around Halloween and have put on around 30 lbs since, still skinny though (6ft2, currently around 170-175lbs). Just slowly getting my lifts up.

 

[balddemon]

one positive side effect of not lifting or doing anything physical is that my leg is completely healed up now. no pain. nothing. gonna make sure to keep it loose with foam rolling and stretching to prevent more pain and tightness. but it's nice being able to crouch down haha.

 

[Ripclawe]

How I picture myself doing pullups.

The reality

Its maddening and a bit depressing.

 

[Petrie]

How I picture myself doing pullups.

Its maddening and a bit depressing.

Awesome. LOLZ

 

[rando14]

Looks like he's doing chinups in the first one

 

[Timedog]

Stopped going to the gym around 7-8 months ago cause it was too much of a trek, and the gyms near my house don't have shit. Instead saved up membership fee money and bought an adjustable bench and adjustable dumbells. No room for rack/barbells in my current living situation although I could have gotten that stuff for not too much more. I might be back in this thread pissing people off.

 

[HisshouBuraiKen]

Diet is slowly eroding my strength...I could only put up 295x4 on squats today, normally I would get that for 6 or 7. My gains, my beautiful gains...

At least the fat's slowly eroding as well.

 

[Szu]

Looks like he's doing chinups in the first one

Yeah, he's doing chin-ups.

I do these all the time, great BW workout.

 

[Petrie]

Diet is slowly eroding my strength...I could only put up 295x4 on squats today, normally I would get that for 6 or 7. My gains, my beautiful gains...

At least the fat's slowly eroding as well.

Squats are the first thing to go.

 

[Mully]

240 X 9 DL today for my third week of 5/3/1 of cycle 3. Looking back in my notebook to cycle 1, I could barely deadlift 215 X 2.

 

[SeanR1221]

A trainer told me never to take creatine and cittruline at the same time, they bind to the same receptors. Bro science?

 

[Omni]

I joined a gym today (it's pretty cheap and open 24 hours). Not entirely sure where I'd start in regards to working out though. In the past the most I've ever done is just cardio.

Is it worth hiring a personal trainer for a few lessons? I saw a sign there and three lessons with a trainer was only $90 or something. Not sure if it would be worth it though

 

[SeanR1221]

I joined a gym today (it's pretty cheap and open 24 hours). Not entirely sure where I'd start in regards to working out though. In the past the most I've ever done is just cardio.

Is it worth hiring a personal trainer for a few lessons? I saw a sign there and three lessons with a trainer was only $90 or something. Not sure if it would be worth it though

No. Advice here is free. Chances are it will be better than what the trainer tells you.

 

[CrankyJay]

240 X 9 DL today for my third week of 5/3/1 of cycle 3. Looking back in my notebook to cycle 1, I could barely deadlift 215 X 2.

Someday I'll be there...

205 x 5 ... mind you I just started deadlifting 2 weeks ago.

I just want to get all of the major lifts over 200...

So far:

Bench - 215 x 2
Squat - 195 x 3
DL - 205 x 5

The DL's were this morning, I'm freaking dead right now...had a full back/bi workout after that.

 

[Petrie]

Someday I'll be there...

205 x 5 ... mind you I just started deadlifting 2 weeks ago.

I just want to get all of the major lifts over 200...

So far:

Bench - 215 x 2
Squat - 195 x 3
DL - 205 x 5

The DL's were this morning, I'm freaking dead right now...had a full back/bi workout after that.

I know everyone is different but man, what is keeping your Deads and Squats so low compared to bench?

 

[Chittagong]

Did my DL max yesterday, 1 x 275lb. Although it was hard I believe could have done three, but out of nowhere this thought of "it's not natural to a human lift weights this heavy" got to my head midway second rep and BAM bar back on the ground. Never happened to me before, I had the power but lacked the belief.

My bench is at 1 x 175lb and squat 1 x 165lb, these are really disproportionately weak aren't they? I'm tall with long legs and arms.

 

[CrankyJay]

I know everyone is different but man, what is keeping your Deads and Squats so low compared to bench?

Here comes the excuse train...

1. Didn't take legs seriously until recently
2. I'm 6'2...I was taking way too narrow of a stance to get low enough on squats without putting pressure on my knees, leaning forward too far...I just couldn't push weight. I blame this poor form on me not getting low enough and not getting enough hip drive.
3. Mental shit...
4. I had ACL surgery a few years back and my right leg basically atrophied to half the size of my left...I feel this is the main reason it's affecting it so badly.

Feel free to pick apart. I need a swift kick in the ass.

BTW, I have chicken legs and and am barrel chested, as you could guess, lol...

 

[SeanR1221]

I know everyone is different but man, what is keeping your Deads and Squats so low compared to bench?

I was gonna say.

I'm at...

235x3 squat
315x4 deads
195x4 bench

I should be at 265 squat, 355 dead and 205 bench before I reset and work back up to higher numbers...which I can't wait for because I'm beat the fuck up.

 

[Chittagong]

Here comes the excuse train...

1. Didn't take legs seriously until recently
2. I'm 6'2...I was taking way too narrow of a stance to get low enough on squats without putting pressure on my knees, leaning forward too far...I just couldn't push weight. I blame this poor form on me not getting low enough and not getting enough hip drive.
3. Mental shit...

Except for the barrel chest and surgery, you are me.

I reset my squat few weeks ago to go low enough. It's a real revelation once you actually go super low. See above my weights, they are tiny.

My problem is once I near parallel I lose all power. Once it goes down even further I regain power, so it's something in whatever muscles activate in parallel. Same as you, another key problem I have is leaning forwards too much.

I've got the safe bars on the squat rack and constantly train to fail so that I can get rid of the fear of failing. We also practice negative reps to work on the bottom part of the range - just coming down as low as I can resist the weight. Not sure what the consensus on negative reps here is.

Feels good to do proper reps though. You'll forever look differently at the guy in the next squat rack grunting quarter reps with huge weights.

 

[CrankyJay]

Except for the barrel chest and surgery, you are me.

I reset my squat few weeks ago to go low enough. It's a real revelation once you actually go super low. See above my weights, they are tiny.

My problem is once I near parallel I lose all power. Once it goes down even further I regain power, so it's something in whatever muscles activate in parallel.

I've got the safe bars on the squat rack and constantly train to fail so that I can get rid of the fear of failing. We also practice negative reps to work on the bottom part of the range - just coming down as low as I can resist the weight. Not sure what the consensus on negative reps here is.

This is what I did...I reset to work on my form.

 

[Petrie]

Here comes the excuse train...

1. Didn't take legs seriously until recently
2. I'm 6'2...I was taking way too narrow of a stance to get low enough on squats without putting pressure on my knees, leaning forward too far...I just couldn't push weight. I blame this poor form on me not getting low enough and not getting enough hip drive.
3. Mental shit...
4. I had ACL surgery a few years back and my right leg basically atrophied to half the size of my left...I feel this is the main reason it's affecting it so badly.

Feel free to pick apart. I need a swift kick in the ass.

BTW, I have chicken legs and and am barrel chested, as you could guess, lol...

Hey as long as you're aware of it and moving forward now, no need to kick any ass. Keep at it.

 

[HisshouBuraiKen]

Squats are the first thing to go.

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Technically it was 4.5 reps...I got the "down" part for the 5th one lol. Yeah my squats and deadlifts seem to be getting disproportionately punished...but I've learned my lesson about bulking. The BBB 3-month challenge was NOT a challenge to see how much food I could eat for 3 months.

So does anyone in here do either of the DangerouslyHardcore.com diets? Carb nite or Carb back-loading? I'm doing the former and I do feel like it's working, the scale is moving down very slowly but clothes are fitting better and my gut's shrinking a little as well.

For those who don't know they're basically ultra low carb diets - on the former you carb up once a week in a 6-8 hour window and to maximize fat loss while sparing muscle. On the latter you have carbs for a few hours post workout only to minimize fat gain and maximize muscle growth. It's all about insulin/hormone manipulation.

Feel free to pick apart. I need a swift kick in the ass.

Nothing to pick apart as long as you've seen the error of your ways. Post a form check vid if you think you need help.

 

[CrankyJay]

Hey as long as you're aware of it and moving forward now, no need to kick any ass. Keep at it.

I'm just mad at myself...I'm 33 so I feel I wasted a good chunk of my 20s drinking and eating like an asshole when those were probably the best years of my life to work out and get in shape.

 

[Petrie]

For those who don't know they're basically ultra low carb diets - on the former you carb up once a week in a 6-8 hour window and to maximize fat loss while sparing muscle. On the latter you have carbs for a few hours post workout only to minimize fat gain and maximize muscle growth. It's all about insulin/hormone manipulation.

I've always wondered how such things would work for someone like me, who is a type 1 diabetic and therefor has complete control of insulin deployment into his system and such, but also can't simply use food to make his body do it for him.

I'm just mad at myself...I'm 33 so I feel I wasted a good chunk of my 20s drinking and eating like an asshole when those were probably the best years of my life to work out and get in shape.

I feel that. I started at 25 and still hate that I wasted so many years, especially years where all I had was time vs. now. What can you do though but push forward?

 

[CrankyJay]

Nothing to pick apart as long as you've seen the error of your ways. Post a form check vid if you think you need help.

I think I might just...

BTW, since I widened my stance to facilitate me going deeper on squats, I can feel the difference in my abductors (hip) muscles...is this the desired result?

 

[HisshouBuraiKen]

I think I might just...

BTW, since I widened my stance to facilitate me going deeper on squats, I can feel the difference in my abductors (hip) muscles...is this the desired result?

Yes, because you are using them to push your knees out.

I hear you and petrie both, I'm 31. Never touched a weight or did any kind of exercise until I was 21, and I've had on and off years since then. I've really only been going consistently for a full year now. So many wasted nights...

 

[FallingEdge]

March month = chest month for me. Time for me to develop more definition/size in the chest, mainly in the upper pec.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/4_weeks_to_a_bigger_chest

Starts on the 4th. Doing this for 4 weeks. Cleaning up the diet a bit too. Here. We. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

[Brera]

I've got back in my grove again.

Diet wise I've decided that instead of going hardcore low carbs ie 20g a day, I'm just going to cut out bread, sweets, sugary food and drink.

Probably aim at 50-100g of carbs max per day. It should give me the right boost to build muscle and stength and continue to lose fat? I understand it'll be slower.

Have I worked it out right?

 

[SeanR1221]

March month = chest month for me. Time for me to develop more definition/size in the chest, mainly in the upper pec.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/4_weeks_to_a_bigger_chest

Starts on the 4th. Doing this for 4 weeks. Cleaning up the diet a bit too. Here. We. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I remember reading that article. Sounds intense, good luck!

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Stopped going to the gym around 7-8 months ago cause it was too much of a trek, and the gyms near my house don't have shit. Instead saved up membership fee money and bought an adjustable bench and adjustable dumbells. No room for rack/barbells in my current living situation although I could have gotten that stuff for not too much more. I might be back in this thread pissing people off.

Bench, dumbbells, and a pull-up bar (if you can get your hands on one) should allow you to do most of the crucial exercises.

DB deadlifts, DB squats, DB bench press, hammer time!
Throw in a couple of chin-ups, and some pull-ups, and you're good.

 

[Booties]

Finally lifting again, starting off with a 5x5 strength routine for now. Thinking of drinking a gallon a milk a day, taking milk baths, and eating milk-pops.

This workout has already given me great gains, but my upper body is coming along much slower because of a hand injury in the past year.

 

[Price Dalton]

I've always wondered how such things would work for someone like me, who is a type 1 diabetic and therefor has complete control of insulin deployment into his system and such, but also can't simply use food to make his body do it for him.

After training, your muscles are incredibly sensitive to glucose uptake, and this is independent of insulin:

http://m.jap.physiology.org/content/99/1/338.long

Might be helpful, not sure. Your comment just made me think of it.

 

[sphinx]

I'm just mad at myself...I'm 33 so I feel I wasted a good chunk of my 20s drinking and eating like an asshole.

I feel that. I started at 25 and still hate that I wasted so many years

I hear you and petrie both, I'm 31. Never touched a weight or did any kind of exercise until I was 21

I consider my fitness birth May 2012, that's when I started to care, even if it was just some pushups, chinups and crunches.....

first time I set foot in a gym and touched a barbell or a dumbbell, must have been last October, I was 34.. now I am 35.

when I see younger guys and compare myself to similar body constitutions I feel like I look and behave like a "fitness Sr." (the oldie guy fucking around) and those 20-something guys probably weight the same as me but are all ripped, defined and bold, they cut and trim fat with ease.

I could feel bad but have no regrets, I was doing other interesting things back then and I am thankful I can take on it now.

 

[Petrie]

I consider my fitness birth May 2012, that's when I started to care, even if it was just some pushups, chinups and crunches.....

Mine was sometime between April and July of 2011. April was when I decided to get myself a membership at the local gym and get serious with a program a friend who was into BB and such designed for me, July was when I discovered this thread, SS, and got on track towards real progress as a newbie.

Love my buddy, but he didn't understand beginner work at all.

 

[abuC]

Tried 155lbs dumbbells on bench today, only could do it 3 times and struggled a bit on the last rep. But, CT Fletcher is my imaginary lifting coach and all I could hear was "LIFT IT MUTHAFUCKA".

 

[Petrie]

Bought a loaf of this at the store this morning. Pretty pricey at $5.99 a loaf, but they're a local business so I have no issue supporting them. Tried it as toast this morning. Found it a bit on the drier side, but good, especially with my eggs. My g/f thought it was a bit chewy, but I didn't notice that. It's a nice way to be able to have "bread" and still keep macros in check, though you could just use regular bread and eat more meat to get the same net result I suppose. They have bagels as well that I plan to try on my next trip. Will report back once I try it untoasted with a sandwich or somesuch, but overall pretty pleased with the product outside of the price, but that's to be expected.

 

[Cudder]

Tried 155lbs dumbbells on bench today, only could do it 3 times and struggled a bit on the last rep. But, CT Fletcher is my imaginary lifting coach and all I could hear was "LIFT IT MUTHAFUCKA".

I said WOW

Bought a loaf of this at the store this morning. Pretty pricey at $5.99 a loaf, but they're a local business so I have no issue supporting them. Tried it as toast this morning. Found it a bit on the drier side, but good, especially with my eggs. My g/f thought it was a bit chewy, but I didn't notice that. It's a nice way to be able to have "bread" and still keep macros in check, though you could just use regular bread and eat more meat to get the same net result I suppose. They have bagels as well that I plan to try on my next trip. Will report back once I try it untoasted with a sandwich or somesuch, but overall pretty pleased with the product outside of the price, but that's to be expected.

28 grams of protein per 2 slices

I said WOW.

 

[sphinx]

Bread.

it's in your freezer right now, right? :O

 

[Tashi]

Bought a loaf of this at the store this morning. Pretty pricey at $5.99 a loaf, but they're a local business so I have no issue supporting them. Tried it as toast this morning. Found it a bit on the drier side, but good, especially with my eggs. My g/f thought it was a bit chewy, but I didn't notice that. It's a nice way to be able to have "bread" and still keep macros in check, though you could just use regular bread and eat more meat to get the same net result I suppose. They have bagels as well that I plan to try on my next trip. Will report back once I try it untoasted with a sandwich or somesuch, but overall pretty pleased with the product outside of the price, but that's to be expected.

That's pretty cool. How much protein do you get per slice?

edit: oh 28 grams per 2 slices?! holy fuck. That's significant.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Goddamn you guys, why's there no protein bread around here

 

[Petrie]

it's in your freezer right now, right? :O

It will be in a second, I take it this is a known thing?

Website seems to say 10-14 days at room temp, don't know if I need to freeze it then. Lol

 

[Booties]

Damn that's a lot of protein, but it's more than twice the price of the 8g I get now.

 

[Cudder]

Definitely looking out for protein bread next time I go shopping. Shit, just using that bread and a can of salmon for a sandwich and I'm almost at 1/3 of my suggested daily protein intake. Too good to be true.

 

[Petrie]

Definitely looking out for protein bread next time I go shopping.

Nobody in Buffalo carried it, but now I'm back home in Syracuse and we have the company who developed this one right here. I guess they make flatbread in addition to bagels. Can't wait to try both.

 

[Carbonox]

That's pretty cool. How much protein do you get per slice?

edit: oh 28 grams per 2 slices?! holy fuck. That's significant.

Oh my. I love my sammiches so to be able to find bread like this where I live would be a big coup for me.

 

[Szu]

Definitely looking out for protein bread next time I go shopping. Shit, just using that bread and a can of salmon for a sandwich and I'm almost at 1/3 of my suggested daily protein intake. Too good to be true.

I still curious about any potential side effects.

If it turns you into a zombie of some sort, won't buy.

If it turns you into the Hulk, well that's another story.

 

[FallingEdge]

I remember reading that article. Sounds intense, good luck!

Thanks.

Start: http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss124/FallingEdge/IMG_20130228_210422_zps94bc1ec7.jpg

It is about time I begin to lean out anyway.

I consider my fitness birth May 2012, that's when I started to care, even if it was just some pushups, chinups and crunches.....

first time I set foot in a gym and touched a barbell or a dumbbell, must have been last October, I was 34.. now I am 35.

when I see younger guys and compare myself to similar body constitutions I feel like I look and behave like a "fitness Sr." (the oldie guy fucking around) and those 20-something guys probably weight the same as me but are all ripped, defined and bold, they cut and trim fat with ease.

I could feel bad but have no regrets, I was doing other interesting things back then and I am thankful I can take on it now.

You are 35? I thought you were in your mid 20s.

 

[Tashi]

Oh my. I love my sammiches so to be able to find bread like this where I live would be a big coup for me.

Same. Some fuckin tuna fish, some turkey cold cuts. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.