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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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ezrarh

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Seems like you can order their bread online in packs of 4 or 10. I'll have to take a look around my area to see if they have them available. Might have to start making my own protein bread though.
 
lol falling edge at first glance I thought your avatar was yugioh

Rainmaker Okada. RECOGNIZE!

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Petrie

Banned
Seems like you can order their bread online in packs of 4 or 10. I'll have to take a look around my area to see if they have them available. Might have to start making my own protein bread though.

Their website will show you whatever local stores carry it.
 

Mully

Member
I know everyone is different but man, what is keeping your Deads and Squats so low compared to bench?

Started deadlifting last September. By November, my deadlift was already up to 260 X 2. Later that month I pulled my hamstring and then tore it in December. I have no doubt I can deadlift 300-315, but I'm pretty cautious about injuring my hamstring again.
 

ezrarh

Member
Their website will show you whatever local stores carry it.

Yeah, just used that tool. Good news, there's one about a mile from my gym. Apparently, American Nutrition has it in stock (in Everett and Brighton for those in the Boston area).
 

sphinx

the piano man
It will be in a second, I take it this is a known thing?

Website seems to say 10-14 days at room temp, don't know if I need to freeze it then. Lol

Eaxctly what I thought " I see myself eating this daily, no need to Freeze" then life gets in your way, you eat somewhere else, forget the bread, bam, green mold, money down the drain, buy again, repeat, lol

You are 35? I thought you were in your mid 20s.

I get that every now and then, my sister tells me I look 42 with beard so I don't know..:p
 

Booties

Banned
I don't like yogurt, I'm a pretty picky eater.

Chobanis help so much. I can usually get them 10 for $10 if I shop around. Very solid. No fat, 14 g protein, 140 calories and they come in like 60 flavors. Just throw it back if you don't like it. Helps get extra protein in for lunch or after a work out.
 

Petrie

Banned
Eaxctly what I thought " I see myself eating this daily, no need to Freeze" then life gets in your way, you eat somewhere else, forget the bread, bam, green mold, money down the drain, buy again, repeat, lol

I'm a creature of habit though. I eat the same stuff at the same times most days. That and I share said bread with my g/f, and we easily go through a loaf a week with me only having a few slices.

If I bought more than 1 I'd definitely freeze it though.
 

Noema

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Btw, how do you guys press?

Do you do it like Rippetoe used to teach with breathing at the top and the bounce out of the bottom? Or is someone using his new method where you start every rep from the bottom from a stop but "bounce" it with your hips.

New method shown here:
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/video/platform_learning_to_press_2.0

I sort of do a "1.5" press. Not as strict as the old version but I don't use as much layback as the 2.0 version necessitates.
 

Kyaw

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Btw, how do you guys press?

Do you do it like Rippetoe used to teach with breathing at the top and the bounce out of the bottom? Or is someone using his new method where you start every rep from the bottom from a stop but "bounce" it with your hips.

New method shown here:
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/video/platform_learning_to_press_2.0

I can't bounce at the bottom with my hips. It just goes into a weird upright worm mode and I get nothing.

I just bounce at the bottom using full lungs but I've been doing stricter presses recently with no bouncing.
 

Szu

Member
I'm just mad at myself...I'm 33 so I feel I wasted a good chunk of my 20s drinking and eating like an asshole when those were probably the best years of my life to work out and get in shape.

Similar situation for me, but replace drinking with playing video games. I didn't join a gym until I was 27, but I hate living in the past.

Now, 12 years later, I'm in better shape than I was in my 20's.

I'm living for the future and enjoying the present.
 

MjFrancis

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Similar situation for me, but replace drinking with playing video games. I didn't join a gym until I was 27, but I hate living in the past.

Now, 12 years later, I'm in better shape than I was in my 20's.

I'm living for the future and enjoying the present.
Like you guys I wasn't physically active for much of my younger years. Smoking and sloth hit me from 16-20 and overeating hit me for a couple years thereafter. I didn't deadlift until I was 26. It was with standard weights on carpet. Everyone starts somewhere, right?

Feeling remorse for waiting so long would be wasted energy. It adds a second stupidity on top of the first - which was bad enough as it is! Not even considering that such sloth was a necessary precursor for me to acquire the drive to train as I do today.

And like a few other guys in this thread, I'm happy to say that every year I've been in better shape for quite some time now.
 
Btw, how do you guys press?

Do you do it like Rippetoe used to teach with breathing at the top and the bounce out of the bottom? Or is someone using his new method where you start every rep from the bottom from a stop but "bounce" it with your hips.

New method shown here:
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/video/platform_learning_to_press_2.0
Military Press (Strict) or bust. Push Press (press with a hip / leg induced bounce) is good for burnouts at the end of your OHP sets, though.
 

_Isaac

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Btw, how do you guys press?

Do you do it like Rippetoe used to teach with breathing at the top and the bounce out of the bottom? Or is someone using his new method where you start every rep from the bottom from a stop but "bounce" it with your hips.

New method shown here:
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/video/platform_learning_to_press_2.0

Hm. I didn't even know he had a new method. I'll have to look at that when I get home. What does he say about the new method? Is it more beneficial compared to his older style?
 

Dash27

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Btw, how do you guys press?

Do you do it like Rippetoe used to teach with breathing at the top and the bounce out of the bottom? Or is someone using his new method where you start every rep from the bottom from a stop but "bounce" it with your hips.

New method shown here:
http://startingstrength.com/index.php/site/video/platform_learning_to_press_2.0

I still do the old method, but if you go to 33:15 of that vid that's the owner of my gym lurking behind the rack so I think he's going to start teaching this method going forward at some point.
 

sphinx

the piano man
Now, 12 years later, I'm in better shape than I was in my 20's.

I'm happy to say that every year I've been in better shape for quite some time now.

I feel that way in my case too.

Fallingedge's comment about my age and these comments made me curious so I dug a 2003 pic from my archive, coincidentally a time where I had recently quit smoking and food had great taste... I did a quick age before/after and this is the outcome:

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2003 (age 25) <-> 2013 (age 35)

All I say is, I'd take that age line or wrinkle on my right cheek over all that fat on my chin any day of my life...
 

_Isaac

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but I feel that way in my case too.

Fallingedge's comment about my age and these comments made me curious so I dug a 2003 pic from my archive, coincidentally a time where I had recently quit smoking and food had great taste... I did a quick age before/after and this is the outcome:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb244/spheenx/agebeforeaftera_zps98312599.jpg

2003 (age 25) <-> 2013 (age 35)

All I say is, I'd take that age line or wrinkle on my right cheek over all that fat on my chin any day of my life...

Wow. Well done. And let's just say that "age line" is from smiling too much. [:
 

despire

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Military Press (Strict) or bust. Push Press (press with a hip / leg induced bounce) is good for burnouts at the end of your OHP sets, though.

Push press is another matter entirely and I'm not talking about it. Neither is Rip's new method a push press since the "bounce" is horizontal like a bow.
 

Cagey

Banned
March month = chest month for me. Time for me to develop more definition/size in the chest, mainly in the upper pec.

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/4_weeks_to_a_bigger_chest

I'm a big proponent of Dorian Yates's ideas, so I would recommend decline in replace of flat bench, especially if this is a one month shock therapy program of sorts for your chest. I imagine you generally bench flat anyway.

Also good for developing a sick underboob.
 

despire

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It allows you to move more weight.

I really have to start practicing the Rip's Press 2.0 method since it's now probably the best time in a while. I'm just starting 5/3/1 so I'm at deload weights. I've tried the new method a few times with heavier weights but I found it a bit hard to just jump in and it was affecting my lifts since I hadn't practiced it enough..
 
Okay, fuck this protein powder.
Fortunately it'll only last me another week, so it's about time I buy some new, tasty, protein.

I just want something that's decent in water, and tasty with milk (as a little treat); but also from a brand that hasn't been found to use heavy metals or other shit in their products.

Any recommendations?
Also, I'm in the U.K.
 

Kyaw

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Okay, fuck this protein powder.
Fortunately it'll only last me another week, so it's about time I buy some new, tasty, protein.

I just want something that's decent in water, and tasty with milk (as a little treat); but also from a brand that hasn't been found to use heavy metals or other shit in their products.

Any recommendations?
Also, I'm in the U.K.

http://www.myprotein.com/sports-nutrition/impact-whey-protein/10530943.html

I've always been getting protein from them. Vanilla and Chocolate are both good.
You probably only want to mix Vanilla with milk though. (I've only ever mixed with milk)
 

Gilby

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Okay, fuck this protein powder.
Fortunately it'll only last me another week, so it's about time I buy some new, tasty, protein.

I just want something that's decent in water, and tasty with milk (as a little treat); but also from a brand that hasn't been found to use heavy metals or other shit in their products.

Any recommendations?
Also, I'm in the U.K.

So pretty much any brand? Unless you're buying from China, that's kinda like worrying about razorblades in your apples.
 
So pretty much any brand? Unless you're buying from China, that's kinda like worrying about razorblades in your apples.

There was an infograph pic posted a couple of pages back that showed high metal traces in a number of leading protein powder brands. Might just have been an american thing, but I'm going to err on the safe side and black list those specific brands.

 

Gilby

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There was an infograph pic posted a couple of pages back that showed high metal traces in a number of leading protein powder brands. Might just have been an american thing, but I'm going to err on the safe side and black list those specific brands.

Yeah, but they're not putting them in there, they just exist somewhere along the food chain I would assume. Even ON whey(which is considered the gold standard) has some on that graph. Pretty sure no one's pouring mercury in their protein to save cash, but I guess there might be some processes that eliminate some of it. I really don't know, but I'm pretty sure mercury costs more than protein so no company is going to "cut" their powders with it. Only thing I've ever heard of similar to that was protein powder in China being cut with plastic.

Another option you might look into is Spirulina, to help move some of that stuff out of your system.
 

Caramello

Member
So I haven't posted in here in quite a while and I wanted to update you guys on my progress..

Last year I discovered this thread and decided I'd give a modified SS program a shot. I did as much as I could at home without a rack including front squats (picking the bar up from the ground or each set), deadlifts (getting stuck at 45Kg/100lbs as that was the amount o weight I had available to me and just adding reps), DB bench and bent over rows (not the from the ground barbell rows that I should have been doing).

I also did some assistance work for triceps and shoulders with dumbells like kickbacks and raises.. I did see progress as any novice would see with any program they did but far too slowly and obviously not in all the right exercises.

From October to the end I last year I decided that I would stop spinning my wheels at home and join a gym so come January when there was a good New Years deal at one of the local local gym where my sister works as a PT, I joined up!

I also bought a copy of Starting Strength through Amazon to read on my Kindle app. I bought it to make sure I had all of the lift technique correct from the start which is another mistake I made (I'll get into why shortly).

So anyway I started training and for the last 8 weeks my training schedule has looked like this:

MONDAY

Squat
Deadlift
Bench Press
Pull Ups

WEDNESDAY

Squat
OHP
Power Clean
Tricep Kickbacks
Triceps Pushdowns
Barbell Curls
Hammer Curls

Friday

Squat
Deadlift
Bench
Hanging leg raises

After having read through the programming section of Starting Strength (which I should have done from the start!!) I can now see a couple of issues with my routine.

1. The order of my lifts have been out of whack with deadlifts coming straight after squats.
2. I'm doing too much accessory work and too much volume
3. A lot of the accessory work I'm down is isolation and I should have been doing compound movements like dips and close grip bench press (although at this stage I shouldn't even by worrying about accessory work a part from chins/pulls).

At this stage I should tell you that the reason that I decided to read Starting Strength properly is due to the fact that the last two weeks in a row I've reduced my squat weight on Monday because I've only managed one set on Friday before giving up. I can do upper body lifts no problem but I can't seem to recover from squatting three times a week.

From what I've read and from having recorded every calorie over the past 8 weeks into myfitnesspal I've decided to make a change:

I've been doing Intermittant Fasting with a body recomp goal (I weigh 67kgs/150lbs and I've lost 5kgs/10lbs since I started 8 weeks ago). To begin with I was going for 2,400 cals on training days and 1,600 on rest days and the weekend. I wasn't losing any appreciable body fat with this set up and about 2 weeks ago I upped the training cals to 2,600 and rest to 2,000 cals and have dropped from 19% body fat to 17.7%. Yesterday I had the biggest drop going from 18.1 to 17.7 and losing 1.5kgs/3lbs after having eaten like a pig (3,500 cals)

I'VE BEEN EATING TOO LITTLE!!!!!

So having read SS properly and Rippetoe making quite clear that INDTP (I'm not doing the program) I've decided to increase my calories. Keeping in mind that my body fat percentage is ~18% so I'll go for the low end at 3,500 a day and see how I go from there.

I don't know if I can fit that amount of calories into my current 8 hour eating window though and whether its even worth trying..

Also one thing I've seen bandied around the thread lately caught my eye as a potential reason for the problems I've been having with squatting. Central Nervous System fatigue. So I'm thinking about taking a week off before I restart SS to ensure maximum recovery potential. I don't want to go into it and miss reps a few weeks in because I didn't take a break now... But I'm also not sure if CNS fatigue is the reason for my problems and perhaps it's all diet and broken sleep related which I can fix.

Anyway the other thing that I'll be altering is my program..

Workout A

Squat
Press
Deadlift

Workout B

Squat
Bench
Power Clean
Chin Ups

As much as I've enjoyed gaining some semblance of definition in my arms after 22 years of chicken arms I have to trust that the whole body movements that I'm doing will transfer to bis and tris as well. Bench will train tris and chin ups will train bis (switching to chins from pulls for this reason). Either way I'm no longer concerned with appearence. My primary concern is adding 2.5kgs to my squats, deads and power cleans every workout and adding 1.25kgs to my bench and OHP every workout.

So that's me..

Sorry for the wall of text and if any of you have actually reached the end of my post and have any pointers I'm all ears :)
 
Caramello said:
Sorry for the wall of text and if any of you have actually reached the end of my post and have any pointers I'm all ears :)

You're on the right track. I think you should be okay on around 3500cals to start if you make sure they're quality (so beef, chicken, eggs, whey etc. and not too much milk for example). If you start to stall, increase cals.

And don't worry too much about appearance, I've done SS almost exactly like you, and taking my bench from 40kg to 80kg for reps and chin-ups from BWx6 to BWx15 has made a massive difference on my arms without even one curl or tricep kickback.

Also, take your time on cleans, they can be hard to learn but they're so much fun. :) Good luck!
 

Orrichio

Member
Hey Fitness GAF!

I was looking in to getting muscle definition , I'm pretty lean right now and you guys seem knowledgeable.

I have a healthy diet, but I guess it would have to change if I am to do lifting/cardio work (more protein? )

I am also allergic to dairy. I say this since I might get recommended like whey protein or something.

What would be a good course of action to get started?


Thanks in advance!
 

SeanR1221

Member
Hey Fitness GAF!

I was looking in to getting muscle definition , I'm pretty lean right now and you guys seem knowledgeable.

I have a healthy diet, but I guess it would have to change if I am to do lifting/cardio work (more protein? )

I am also allergic to dairy. I say this since I might get recommended like whey protein or something.

What would be a good course of action to get started?


Thanks in advance!

Read the OP.
 
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