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Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Srsly

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So if I see a massive guy at the gym that has bacne, is it possible that he's gotten it from a natural increase of testosterone through lifting/eating rather than steroids?

Then there are people who naturally get it regardless of training status.

My friend is skinny and has never lifted a weight and has bacne. It's a good idea to just not assume something about someone if you see they have bacne
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Been trying to do some barbell squats and barbell presses at home since I haven't had time to go to the gym properly lately. It seems like after every workout my wrists ache pretty badly from keeping the weight properly balanced. Is this pain coming from weakness or improper form?

My buddy recommended I stretch my wrists like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbf...ODbH-cFrHml5XV2vsyiS0EC&feature=results_video

Before and after these sorts of workouts in order to lessen the pain.
 

Noema

Member
Anyone want to critic my 5/3/1 routine for me? I'm moving onto my fourth cycle next week and I really don't want to have an imbalance.

Wednesday
OHP (warmup and working sets)
BBB OHP
T-Rows 5X10
Incline Bench 5X10

Thursday
Deadlifts (warmup and working sets)
BBB DL
Lat Pulls 5X10
Shrugs 5X10
Leg Press 5X10

Saturday
Bench (warmup and working sets)
BBB Bench
BB Rows 5X10
Dips 5X8
DB Rows 5X10

Monday
Squats (warmup and working sets)
BBB Squats
Leg Curls 5X10
BB Curls 5X10
CG Bench Press 5X10
Pullups

HIIT on Tuesdays and Fridays.

I'd get rid of the lat pulldowns and replace them with more Chin-ups / Pullups on thursday. I'd also get rid of the Leg Curls, and replace them with something that also hits the hamstrings but can also assist your squat / deadlifts, like Good Mornings or Romanian Deadlifts. I know you had a hamstring tear but you can start really light to get form down. It'll probably help rehab the muscle as well.
 

IceCold

Member
Been trying to do some barbell squats and barbell presses at home since I haven't had time to go to the gym properly lately. It seems like after every workout my wrists ache pretty badly from keeping the weight properly balanced. Is this pain coming from weakness or improper form?

My buddy recommended I stretch my wrists like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbf...ODbH-cFrHml5XV2vsyiS0EC&feature=results_video

Before and after these sorts of workouts in order to lessen the pain.

Make sure your hands are parallel to your forearms.

Example for the squat:

bad:
iJmxCpX.jpg


good:
PZi4sew.jpg
 

JB1981

Member
So chins at a bodyweight of 185. 3 sets

1x11
1x10
1x7
3 doubles

How is the first 3 sets, pretty decent? This is full range of motion, rest as long as I need between sets. I want to get to 12x12x12 before I add weight. What you think ?

Also I think I'm just going to bench once a week from now on. Think it's bothering my right shoulder
 

Noema

Member
Been trying to do some barbell squats and barbell presses at home since I haven't had time to go to the gym properly lately. It seems like after every workout my wrists ache pretty badly from keeping the weight properly balanced. Is this pain coming from weakness or improper form?

My buddy recommended I stretch my wrists like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSbf...ODbH-cFrHml5XV2vsyiS0EC&feature=results_video

Before and after these sorts of workouts in order to lessen the pain.

We'd need to see what your squats / press look like.
 

Pancakes

hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Make sure your hands are parallel to your forearms.

Example for the squat:

bad:
iJmxCpX.jpg


good:
PZi4sew.jpg

That would explain it, I guess I was resting the bar on my wrists instead of my back/shoulders.
 

ezrarh

Member
So I ended only taking a full one week break but it has been 2 weeks since my last heavy deadlifts, felt good so I managed to pull 360x5 today. This was without eating anything beforehand (which I did purposely) and I'm pretty happy about it.

I just finished reading Eat Stop Eat by Brad Pilon and it's quite convincing on getting me to switch to a full 24 hour fast once a week. It explains why people can see strength gains while getting fat loss at the same time. Plus, think about how powerful and ripped a lion or a tiger is and they go through fed and fast periods. And obviously I want to be as strong as a lion.
 
Excuse the extremely poor quality of the picture, but my dinner tonight was phenom-nom-nominal.

Wg3NJz7.jpg


That's Hamburger Helper Mac & Cheese in a bacon weave bowl (a bowl made out of bacon). A fried egg sitting on top of a bacon wrapped chicken breast.


I need to stop watching epic meal time..... Fortunately I like Turkey bacon better than actual bacon so I substituted that. 1/2 lb of lean ground beef, 12 strips of turkey bacon, 1 chicken breast, 1 egg, 1 cup of milk..... dats a lot of protein.
 

grumble

Member
Excuse the extremely poor quality of the picture, but my dinner tonight was phenom-nom-nominal.

Wg3NJz7.jpg


That's Hamburger Helper Mac & Cheese in a bacon weave bowl (a bowl made out of bacon). A fried egg sitting on top of a bacon wrapped chicken breast.


I need to stop watching epic meal time..... Fortunately I like Turkey bacon better than actual bacon so I substituted that. 1/2 lb of lean ground beef, 12 strips of turkey bacon, 1 chicken breast, 1 egg, 1 cup of milk..... dats a lot of protein.

That sounds amazing!

My dinner was:

1.75lbs T-Bone steak in jerk sauce (small farm)
3 large eggs (pastured organic)
3 pieces of bacon (thick cut, double smoked, small farm organic)
1 avocado
and for dessert, ~500 calories of a homemade fruit and nut bar held together with PB.

Bulk on!
 
SS method of warming up is definitely not enough for me, i never feel "warm" after doing it. and I've injured my hip flexors squatting a few weeks ago, and yesterday my pec-shoulder connector hurted while benching.

I stretch everyday, can't think of any other cause.

Today the pain is almost gone, glad it wasn't serious.

I will start doing the elliptical or jumping ropes before lifting.
 

Noema

Member
SS method of warming up is definitely not enough for me, i never feel "warm" after doing it. and I've injured my hip flexors squatting a few weeks ago, and yesterday my pec-shoulder connector hurted while benching.

I stretch everyday, can't think of any other cause.

Today the pain is almost gone, glad it wasn't serious.

I will start doing the elliptical or jumping ropes before lifting.

What are your warmups like? Do you do any mobility work on off days?
 
What are your warmups like? Do you do any mobility work on off days?
The SS way, starting with the empty bar and slowly going up until the work sets weight. I rarely feel warmed up and ready to go this way.

Yes I do stretching, mobility and barbell complexes on off days, that's why it's frustrating
 

Noema

Member
The SS way, starting with the empty bar and slowly going up until the work sets weight. I rarely feel warmed up and ready to go this way.

Yes I do stretching, mobility and barbell complexes on off days, that's why it's frustrating

Does your gym have one of these?. I think they are a great tool for full body warm ups. Much better than the elyptical I feel.

Also, maybe it's because I'm a bit older, but I find that doing more reps / sets with the bar is a big help. I try to do 3 sets of 5 with the empty bar before even thinking of adding weight. On bench I do 3 sets of 10 with the bar since my right shoulder is a mess.
 

Caramello

Member
Make sure your hands are parallel to your forearms.

Example for the squat:

good:
PZi4sew.jpg

I absolutely can't do this.. My triceps feel like they're going to tear apart.. Even though I know I'll need to when I get to higher weights.. Just can't do it..

Edit, I'll add that my elbows are up far enough that none of the weight is actually on my wrists, I'm pushing the bar towards my back.
 
So tomorrow starts my regular routine of eating healthy/working out. Last Friday was a warm up of sorts to get accustomed to going back to the gym. I'll be hitting the ground running on Monday. Only thing I'm concerned about is free weights. I've never been comfortable with those.
 
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A More Normal Bird

Unconfirmed Member
I absolutely can't do this.. My triceps feel like they're going to tear apart.. Even though I know I'll need to when I get to higher weights.. Just can't do it..

Edit, I'll add that my elbows are up far enough that none of the weight is actually on my wrists, I'm pushing the bar towards my back.

Try a thumbless grip, and/or widen your hand positioning. Are you squatting high-bar or low-bar?
 
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A More Normal Bird

Unconfirmed Member
Low bar, I'll try a wider grip but I'm not sure that's the best way to hold the bar..

I've been doing shoulder dislocations and I have to hold the bar really wide to do them.

Hold the bar as narrow as you can whilst still keeping your wrists straight, even if it's wider than your current grip. As long as you're still bearing the weight on your back like you are now you're good. Since you're doing low bar, I strongly recommend you try a thumbless grip (ie thumbs over the bar in the same manner as the rest of your fingers) and watch your wrists align themselves almost instantaneously. If you're using a thumbless grip already then just keep working on your flexibility and keeping your back tight even with a wider grip.

Good choice on the shoulder dislocations, everyone starts wide, just focus on slowly progressing with them like you would with a lift. Just checking, but please tell me you're not doing them with an empty barbell. A broomstick or a curtain rod is what you want for those, not a heavy lump of metal.
 

Sarquiss_

Member
Hi FitnessGAF, I am looking at losing weight and wanted some help on a routine which would be good for a novice. I used to go to the gym a couple of times a week and as a result I have gone from a 46" waist to a 38" waist. However, my stomach and belly are still big :(

Anyways, here is my info:

Age: 27
Height: 190cm
Weight: 126kg
Goal: 100kg
Current Training Schedule: Nothing at the moment as I am a bit lost
Current Training Equipment Available: everything at the gym
Comments:

I have stopped eating unhealthy carbs and have increased my protein intake, which has been great. However, I have recently been feeling lost about what I should be doing.

Thanks for any feedback.
 

Caramello

Member
Good choice on the shoulder dislocations, everyone starts wide, just focus on slowly progressing with them like you would with a lift. Just checking, but please tell me you're not doing them with an empty barbell. A broomstick or a curtain rod is what you want for those, not a heavy lump of metal.

Yeah my gym has a light wooden pole for stretching which is useful!
 
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A More Normal Bird

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah my gym has a light wooden pole for stretching which is useful!

Oh, that's a relief. When you said bar it brought back some memories of someone (not me) trying shoulder dislocations and causing themselves a fair bit of pain. Keep at it and switch to the thumbless grip (really can't emphasise this enough, for some people it's the only way their body structure will allow for a proper wrist alignment in low bar squats) and by the time you reach heavier weights your form should be fine.


Hi FitnessGAF, I am looking at losing weight and wanted some help on a routine which would be good for a novice. I used to go to the gym a couple of times a week and as a result I have gone from a 46" waist to a 38" waist. However, my stomach and belly are still big :(

Anyways, here is my info:

Age: 27
Height: 190cm
Weight: 126kg
Goal: 100kg
Current Training Schedule: Nothing at the moment as I am a bit lost
Current Training Equipment Available: everything at the gym
Comments:

I have stopped eating unhealthy carbs and have increased my protein intake, which has been great. However, I have recently been feeling lost about what I should be doing.

Thanks for any feedback.

Depends somewhat on how you prioritise weightloss and how strong/muscular you are currently, but my recommendation would be 2-3 days a week of weight training following a routine like the ones in the OP of this thread and moderate intensity cardio on off days.
 

velociraptor

Junior Member
So chins at a bodyweight of 185. 3 sets

1x11
1x10
1x7
3 doubles

How is the first 3 sets, pretty decent? This is full range of motion, rest as long as I need between sets. I want to get to 12x12x12 before I add weight. What you think ?

Also I think I'm just going to bench once a week from now on. Think it's bothering my right shoulder
Make sure you do an equal amount of rows, or more, to counter the shoulder issues you are having when benching. Also try bent over raises and face pulls. These have helped me tremendously.
 

despire

Member
So my friend is going to attempt a 7 day juice fast. Already told him it's not a good idea but I don't think he believes me. Any good links for debunking this?
 

Dash27

Member
Probably better off letting him do it and learn for himself. He'll probably lose weight just due to calorie restriction. How much of it is fat as opposed to water or LBM is another question.
 

entremet

Member
So my friend is going to attempt a 7 day juice fast. Already told him it's not a good idea but I don't think he believes me. Any good links for debunking this?

Probably better off letting him do it and learn for himself. He'll probably lose weight just due to calorie restriction. How much of it is fat as opposed to water or LBM is another question.

Yeah. I learned a long ago that people are gonna whatever the fuck they wanna do/hodgetwins.
 

grumble

Member
Hi FitnessGAF, I am looking at losing weight and wanted some help on a routine which would be good for a novice. I used to go to the gym a couple of times a week and as a result I have gone from a 46" waist to a 38" waist. However, my stomach and belly are still big :(

Anyways, here is my info:

Age: 27
Height: 190cm
Weight: 126kg
Goal: 100kg
Current Training Schedule: Nothing at the moment as I am a bit lost
Current Training Equipment Available: everything at the gym
Comments:

I have stopped eating unhealthy carbs and have increased my protein intake, which has been great. However, I have recently been feeling lost about what I should be doing.

Thanks for any feedback.

First off, congrats on choosing to make a positive change and get fit! This thread can tend towards tough love at times, but everyone's here to help.

What I'd recommend doing is to do a strength routine that focuses on gaining and maintaning muscle while losing weight. If you don't strength train while dropping weight you'll lose muscle, slow your metabolism and end up looking a bit squishy and skinny-fat. It also burns calories, so it's important that way too.

My recommendation would be to to a 3x/week strength training routine, focusing on free weight compound movements. They're demonstrated to be effective and they're honestly not that hard to learn. I'd read the OP of this thread for some ideas; I like Starting Strength, but there are lots of other good options. You'll generally need to limit cardio under these more aggressive resistance programs (especially when cutting calories), but some moderate cardio after your strength workouts (say 20 minutes of moderate rowing) wouldn't be a bad idea.

A random example routine:

Monday:
Bench 3x5
Squat 3x5
Chinup 3xfailure
Standing Calf Raises 3x8

Wednesday:
Overhead Press 3x5
Deadlift 2x5
Pullup 3xfailure
Hanging leg raises 3x10

Friday:
Bench 3x5
Squat 3x5
Chinup 3xfailure
Curls 3x8

Every time you do bench, OHP, squat or DL add a little weight. Usually 5 pounds initiall for presses and 10 for the squat/DL.

(failure means failing on the last set; leave a rep in the tank on the first set).
 

Whelan

Banned
Hi FitnessGAF, I am looking to use your expertise to confirm if i am on the right track.

Anyways, here is my info:

Age: 32
Height: 182.88
Weight: 81.5kg
Goal: 90kg
Current Training Schedule: 4 days week weights. 1 day circuit training. Cardio 3 or 4 days a week
Current Training Equipment Available: everything at the gym
Comments:

Into 4th week of a 12 week diet plan / training plan. Looking to put on lean muscle and lose the fatty bits. My current weekly weigh-in has been

End of week 1: 80.8kg
End of week 2: 81.2kg
End of week 3: 81.5kg

I'm definitely noticing a difference in physique, even at this early stage.

Is the weight gain what I should be expecting? It looks like the 90kg could take longer than 12 weeks, but I'll be happy if i continue to put on lean muscle and get some definition.

Any comments will be gratefully taken
 

Whelan

Banned
Yep, heavy on the Protein.

Typical day would be:

3 whole eggs, 2 whites on Rye bread
Porridge -coffee- creatine
Shake
182g Salmon / Salad/ Sweet potatoes
25g Almonds
Apple - Creatine
Shake - Banana
150g turkey
Steak / broccoli / Asparagus Sweet potato
Creatine
250g Cottage Cheese
 

Booties

Banned
I need help cutting down on my fat. I don't know enough foods that are high-protein/low-fat. I am struggling to get enough protein with out supplementing or going WAY over my calorie and fat restrictions.
 
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