Hay guyz whats goin.....
That's obviously the recommendation but I don't think many people will do it because they are lazy or they think it's not really necessary. Well it might be.
Before you do any changes, especially when you take medication, consult the one who prescribed the medication to you. That should be like, base level thinking.
Not calling you out despire because I'm guessing it's common but hopefully this can help the new guys.
Guys, 72 hour fasts are NOT for everyone. It works for bish because he's a freak of nature but that's not representative of the whole. Be careful. I've noticed a shift on this forum where people are thinking that's the best diet in the world and an easy way to lose weight.
Absolutely not for everyone. I have been training my body to not be so dependent on food, while keeping my strength, and losing fat. I had a unhealthy relationship with food most of my life, so i needed more to combat a lifetime of non healthy food eating habits. Fasting is what has helped me to gain control to a new level. I see a ton of benefits for people if they stick to the normal IF, but the 24+ hour ones are not for everyone by a long shot.
Yup. There's a tendency for something to get the new hotness status and things go a bit crazy. Low fat, low carb, carb cycling, intermittent fasting, carb backloading. The simple fact is, I can pick the 8 top ripped / massive guys here and show you at least 5 different diets. There is no one answer, and there's certainly nothing that's THAT MUCH better than anything else.
I personally fast because I used to snack like a fucking idiot... but I'm not going to come out like a zealot for it. It works for me right now, but I've got ripped without it, so it's sure as hell not some silver bullet.
Yes, snacking hurt me bigtime as well. And of course, the best diet possible is the one that works for you. Having tried everything under the sun, i feel very good in what i'm doing with fasting + keto. It is not for everyone, nor have i ever said it is. But i would definitely recommend IF protocols to just about anyone.
Like I said, not picking on you at all...I'm glad you're fine. Just hopefully your post can help people that think "oh not eating for 2 days yet working and lifting sounds great" realize it's not without danger.
I guess i may be a freak in that regard? I've gone 2+ days fasting and worked out just fine with plenty of strength. Being fully keto adapted, my body uses the fat stored on my body for energy, which combined with fasting, gives you some excellent results. But as i mentioned, i take no medication at all, and i didn't jump into long fasts, i worked my way there.
So far I have been really happy with the standard 16hour fast. it's something that after doing for a week I feel great and would recommend it to anyone. However this trend as of late of people on here seemingly shooting for higher and higher fasting times is just...really weird to me. I've been trying to find some benefit to it with limited research but it really seems so pointless.am I missing something? It's like people are starting to do it as a trend and an achievement of going ridiculous amounts of time without eating. To me that's just plain unhealthy but I don't know all the facts involved here. Kinda puts the whole "fasting" idea in a really bad light to me. 😕
When the OT goes up, i'll outline the major reasons why to do long fasts, there are quite a bit.
I don't get it either. You would have to be a really bad hunter-gatherer not to eat at least once every 24 hours. We can survive longer, but what is the point of testing that? Bish has his reasons for doing longer fasts, but I think they come from the frame of being very overweight not health.
I'm more into the health aspect, the fat loss and hunger control are just bonus ontop.
Given all the IF/fasting talk just now, I found a very interesting, very informative free book from Precision Nutrition that has their Chief Science Officer experiment with several IF/fasting protocols over 6 months and log everything he did/ate and how he felt during the various protocols. It was a really good read and is very balanced. I suggest anyone wanting to try IF to read it (and Bish, I think it would make a great addition to your fasting OP):
http://www.precisionnutrition.com/intermittent-fasting/introduction
For those that just want the summary:
Nice, i'll give it a read for sure.
Agreed, IF is one thing, the "I haven't eaten all week, TONS OF ENERGY!!!!" shit is both annoying and as I said before indicative of a potential problem. 1 there's no reason for it, 2. The person doing it is not only fasting like that, but also restricting diet (calories) and Keto. Basically 3 "diets" in one. The the posts are structured in a way that it seems they are trying to convince themselves that it's great more than us.
Also, a restricted diet alone will have you losing weight. Doing 3 different ones at the same time? That's just asinine bullshit. And IMO trading one eating disorder for another.
I've never not eaten for a week. I like to outline my thoughts on how things are going, just like despire did about his heart issue during fasting. More info is always good. Not every diet is meant for everyone. And eating disorder lol.
well that's precisely the point I am trying to make with the fasting talk. the fasting talk, often does not mean that people are on a controlled cut to get ripped in combination with a fitness or strength routine. On the other side, I am not sure why people would try to bulk up by fasting and Unless I am mistaken, I don't think fasting for long hours or even days will help with strength numbers at the gym either. So it's not a fitness related cut or a bulk or the diet of a strength trainee, it's just fasting, a kind of diet.
People here seem to take pride on the amount of hours they've been going without eating for the sake of it. that's fine by me, but I sometimes wonder how that particular approach relates to fitness.
the way I see it, It's mostly a diet thing, which works for some and don't for other.
not sure I am explaining myself, so I'll leave it there.
I personally would not fast if i was bulking. You can do it, but its a lot more difficult to get that many calories in at once.
Anyway, i just hit 38+ hours on my fast lol, going to go dry rub this 5lb pork ribs and put them in the oven and make some bacon wrapped mozz sticks.
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