I do. I miss it. It would be nice to be fine on 5.5-6, but I'm terrified of what my recovery will be like. Scared to try it for too long.
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Fitness |OT8| Dad Bods, Bulge Swelfies, and Wait...Do you even lift bro?
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I do. I miss it. It would be nice to be fine on 5.5-6, but I'm terrified of what my recovery will be like. Scared to try it for too long.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Working more maximal and less volume.
540+ chains deadlift x4. Gonna need baby powder for legs. Bar catches on theigh and bottom of singlet.
https://youtu.be/683WV911RLw
540+ chains deadlift x4. Gonna need baby powder for legs. Bar catches on theigh and bottom of singlet.
https://youtu.be/683WV911RLw
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
First time in a long time. Was catching pretty bad, noticeably slowed the bar down. I usually wear slick shorts. This is why I started training in the singlet. To make sure everything works smooth.
The singlet is badass. You look like the heel in a turn of the century underground wrestling film.
I failed the first attempt and then found another gear. Two months in the making I finally have a new working weight for power cleans, 160 lbs. Damn that felt good. Maybe video later.
The workout:
Front squats - 210lbs 1x3, 205lbs 2x5 (All PRs)
Paused DB bench - 87.5s 1x5, 2x4 (PR)
Power cleans - 160lbs 0, 3, 2, 1, 1
The workout:
Front squats - 210lbs 1x3, 205lbs 2x5 (All PRs)
Paused DB bench - 87.5s 1x5, 2x4 (PR)
Power cleans - 160lbs 0, 3, 2, 1, 1
I'm seeing them go on sale no for $40 usd
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Lol
He's just missing the handlebar mustache.
A Human Becoming
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I asked this question partially before but I'll ask again: For the full body workout listed in the OP, what do people here recommend I do for reps and sets with the abdominal and arm exercises?
OP said:
Szu knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Honestly, it's up to you. Depending on your goals. What are you attempting to achieve?
Psychotext
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Question on dumbbell bench... specifically decline if it makes any difference.
In some vids I see guys benching with the weights angled inwards (30-45 degrees?). In others the weights are in line with their shoulders. Is there any meaningful difference between the two? I did briefly try the angled version and it felt like I might have been keeping my elbows a bit closer to my body. Don't really know if that's ideal or not.
Examples of both (ignore the wrong / right label)...
In some vids I see guys benching with the weights angled inwards (30-45 degrees?). In others the weights are in line with their shoulders. Is there any meaningful difference between the two? I did briefly try the angled version and it felt like I might have been keeping my elbows a bit closer to my body. Don't really know if that's ideal or not.
Examples of both (ignore the wrong / right label)...
You guys were right. I'm way too scrawny at 6'1 167 to see any huge benefit just from dropping fat. Fasting wasn't too tough so I know I'll succeed when I actually stand to gain from it. For now though, I'm going to bulk until I'm legitimately strong. Then I can lose weight.
Lesson learned. I should have listened to you. That said, at my height my somewhat narrow build, what weight should I peak at before cutting? 190?
Lesson learned. I should have listened to you. That said, at my height my somewhat narrow build, what weight should I peak at before cutting? 190?
entremet
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Use a mirror. Whenever you're satisfied.
Also when bulking, you should be gaining weight all over. If you're getting too much belly fat, I would check your diet.
Don't go nuts. I did that and while i gained a good amount of muscle, the fat is just taking longer to take it off.
Take your time. Do a modest surplus for a year and just run on of the OP programs.
And don't be afraid of cardio. It's good for your health. Just do it after your weight training or on off days.
A Human Becoming
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Lose weight and improve my running (I do 30 minutes of cardio too).
Now that I think about it, would including some yoga on off days be okay? I'm not flexible.
Yes yoga is fine.
In regards to your accessories...with your goals, I would suggest rep schemes of 12-15, possibly implementing super sets, drop sets, etc. to maximize cardio.
I did exactly that for a couple months, but got scared of gaining weight as it happened. I just need to really commit.
entremet
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If you're a novice, you may not even need to bulk. You'll gain some muscle due to the novice training effect. It won't be as optimal as eating a calorie surplus, but doable.
A Human Becoming
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Thank you BumRush. You're always so helpful.
Thank you BumRush. You're always so helpful.
Any time my man...let us know if you have more questions.
Question on dumbbell bench... specifically decline if it makes any difference.
In some vids I see guys benching with the weights angled inwards (30-45 degrees?). In others the weights are in line with their shoulders. Is there any meaningful difference between the two? I did briefly try the angled version and it felt like I might have been keeping my elbows a bit closer to my body. Don't really know if that's ideal or not.
Examples of both (ignore the wrong / right label)...
You're more likely to wreck your shoulders the further your elbows are from your torso. It's also easier to push more weight when your elbows flare out too, so you can see why both versions exist.
In my version of DB bench, I keep my elbows pretty much all the way in.
Arrowgigantic
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In my experience, it's more like it's a guarantee that you'll wreck your shoulders. Everything's fine when it's light weight, then once you progress to actually start to make gains your shoulders get wrecked. Rippetoe covers very well why this happens. And anyway, the goal of training is not to use more weight, it's to make your muscles stronger. If you're doing things a certain way because you can push/pull more that way, ask yourself why and what will you gain. For example, you can push press more than you can strict OHP, but that doesn't mean you're stronger.
Psychotext
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Cheers. Angled it is then. Feels more comfortable for me so I'm happy enough going that way.
SilentSoldier
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I had gotten up to 295 3X5 in my squat, but started to notice that I wasn't going down low enough. I may have been a bit afraid to go lower in case of injury. I've decided to lower the weight and really focus on getting low. However, I've heard some conflicting things on how low one should get, especially as it pertains to taller people. Should I really focus on going below parallel or should I just try to make parallel? It seems like those that have longer legs should only try for parallel to avoid injury. Any advice?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Paused bench with chains. Getting after it.
300+chains x3, 265+chains x5, 235+chains x 5.
https://youtu.be/MU5rbOB8oGw
300+chains x3, 265+chains x5, 235+chains x 5.
https://youtu.be/MU5rbOB8oGw
ldcommando
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So smooth. How much are the chains? 90?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Sure, bro. Go ahead and post pics of your guns. Just do it.
Lol I'll take a decent pic!
ohhthegore
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make use of them instagram filters!
I would but my gym has bad mirrors. Like its really awful. :/
ohhthegore
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Mine has one good mirror but its in the locker room right where people walk in so kinda embarrassing when someone walks in when you trying to take a swelfie
Not that I know as much about this subject, but isn't it known that with keeping your calories so low for a long time, it has a negative effect on your metabolic rate? Increasing the calories slightly may be helping to kickstart your metabolism. I'm assuming given all the weight you've lost and muscle you've put on, increasing your calories some is probably helpful to you at this point.
It's possible. I'm going to keep an eye on things and see how it goes. I've been in the 2200-2500 range past few days.
Dieting in itself can affect the metabolic rate at around 10-15%. Meaning that your metabolism can slow down around that because you are feeding yourself less calories. Most of the "slowdown" people notice when dieting happens because you weigh less and therefore require less calories to exist.
But yeah, if you've dieted for a long time it's advisable to either have a diet break or a reverse diet. Diet break means eating at maintenance for a week or two which should boost the metabolism and hormones somewhat. Reverse dieting means increasing your calories week by week (25 more carbs per week etc) until you reach your old maintenance and then going above it in hopes of boosting your metabolism even further.
Some people have started reverse dieting at around BMR levels (when ending a cut) and have ended somewhere around 2500-3000kcal intake per day while still losing fat doing that. Basically getting leaner still even though they are not even cutting anymore (well they kinda are but you know..), just because their metabolism boosts faster than they increase their calories.
Psychotext
Member
Related, I was looking at some trends in my weight from my last cut and I noticed a pretty good damn example of the effects of cheat days on longer term weight loss:
(Blue = daily weight)
Before that I had been struggling to drop weight at all. As soon as I started the Cooter protocol the weight just started falling off.
(Blue = daily weight)
Before that I had been struggling to drop weight at all. As soon as I started the Cooter protocol the weight just started falling off.
Related, I was looking at some trends in my weight from my last cut and I noticed a pretty good damn example of the effects of cheat days on longer term weight loss:
(Blue = daily weight)
Before that I had been struggling to drop weight at all. As soon as I started the Cooter protocol the weight just started falling off.
Yeah, cheat days (and the cooter protocol) are awesome
Wulfric
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This is kind of an subjective question, but what sort of workout leads to a "musclegut" body? I would post a pic, but I'm on mobile right now. You've probably seen those guys who look like they're in the gym regularly, and scarf down a whole pizza and a pitcher of beer on the weekend. They seem to gravitate to the free weights, although I guess they do more than just that.
In all honesty, I prefer that "bear" look over someone lean and muscular.
In all honesty, I prefer that "bear" look over someone lean and muscular.
ViewtifulJC
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All you gotta do is have kids, you're halfway there to your dream DadBod
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Psychotext
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I eat an entire pizza and tons of beer on the weekend... and I'm still lean.
I think it's just called being lazy. \o/
I think it's just called being lazy. \o/
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I eat an entire pizza and tons of beer on the weekend... and I'm still lean.
I think it's just called being lazy. o/
Ain't nothing lazy about how I train, brah.
Wulfric
Member
Lmao, I am a kid. I was going for more of the rugby player look. Strong overall, while perhaps still having a layer of pudge.
A young Brolic, essentially.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Lmao, I am a kid. I was going for more of the rugby player look. Strong overall, while perhaps still having a layer of pudge.
A young Brolic, essentially.
Basically don't always eat like an asshole, but don't really concern yourself with what you eat. As far as training, focus more on strength. Follow programs like 5/3/1 and iron sport strength method. And do a lot of weighted carries. Strongman training helps a lot.
The big thing is training to be strong without worrying about abs.
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