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Kozak

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Fenerbahce put in a 10 million bid for Parker which was accepted by WHU.

Parker rejected.

Smart move by Parker who seemed to be the only one thinking right in that situation. Considering our squad, an English man would find it difficult in Turkey.
 
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MPW

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Ronaldo: I'd have joined City

Cristiano Ronaldo has pledged to stay at Real Madrid but revealed that if Jose Mourinho had left the club at the end of last season he would probably have followed his coach out of the exit door, with Manchester City the forward's most likely destination.

"Jose Mourhino is staying at Madrid so I stay. If he went to Chelsea then I would have left. I would have gone to Manchester City. But now he's staying, I'm staying."

Ronaldo dismissed reports of a feud with Mourinho, insisting that he is on good terms with his coach, despite a public objection to what he perceived to be negative tactics in Real's Champions League exit at the hands of Barca in May.

"We went to a wedding together last week and we're on good terms and we have the same agent," Ronaldo said. "He [Mourinho] is a nice person and we live in the same street."

lol jose mourinho does it again, players just fuckin love playing for him!

i wouldn't mind seeing ronaldo leave for 150m!
 
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Blablurn

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finally some bayern action
 
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Kozak

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MPW said:
Ronaldo: I'd have joined City

Cristiano Ronaldo has pledged to stay at Real Madrid but revealed that if Jose Mourinho had left the club at the end of last season he would probably have followed his coach out of the exit door, with Manchester City the forward's most likely destination.

"Jose Mourhino is staying at Madrid so I stay. If he went to Chelsea then I would have left. I would have gone to Manchester City. But now he's staying, I'm staying."

Ronaldo dismissed reports of a feud with Mourinho, insisting that he is on good terms with his coach, despite a public objection to what he perceived to be negative tactics in Real's Champions League exit at the hands of Barca in May.

"We went to a wedding together last week and we're on good terms and we have the same agent," Ronaldo said. "He [Mourinho] is a nice person and we live in the same street."

lol jose mourinho does it again, players just fuckin love playing for him!

i wouldn't mind seeing ronaldo leave for 150m!
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Thats bullshit.

I'm 100% sure that his agent told him to say this bullshit or someones been putting words into Ronaldos mouth.

Ronaldo went to Madrid because it was his boyhood dream not because of Mourinho.

If this is straight from Ronaldo's mouth than hes just trolling City.
 
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K1LLER7

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Kozak said:
Thats bullshit.

I'm 100% sure that his agent told him to say this bullshit or someones been putting words into Ronaldos mouth.

Ronaldo went to Madrid because it was his boyhood dream not because of Mourinho.

If this is straight from Ronaldo's mouth than hes just trolling City.
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Hes done this before has he not? after he played for united, I don't think he'll ever join city, unless they offer titles which doesn't seem likely in the short-run. Not too sure about this but when the Financial fair play is in, what means of money can a club use?

if self generated, arsenal and probably United would be in better terms of competeing for large transfers seen as i know they make alot of money throughout a season on ticket sales alone.
 
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elsk

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Blablurn said:
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Best of all: No more van Gaal, it feels SO GOOD.
btw, I wonder what is going to happen with Contento now. Personally I think he can develope in a very good full back.
 
Joel Was Right

Joel Was Right

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/8611476/London-2012-Olympics-Olympic-Stadium-employee-suspended-over-West-Ham-consultancy-role.html

The Olympic Park Legacy Company is facing major embarrassment after revealing that it has suspended an employee who has been undertaking paid consultancy work for West Ham United.
 
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KidA Seven

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So whatever happened to that statement Redknapp made about City? Something about, you won't believe what players City are going to sign?
 
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MPW

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KidA Seven said:
So whatever happened to that statement Redknapp made about City? Something about, you won't believe what players City are going to sign?
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ronaldo was supposed to come but since mourinho didn't get fired, he'll come to man city after he wins the cl with madrid
 
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Salazar

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Grabbed Connor Wickham for Man United in FM, only to see that Sunderland have grabbed him in real life.

You've got taste, fellas.
 
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dc89

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Hey Kermit, do you think City will sign Nasri?

Wigan have confirmed they bare talking with City about the transfer of SWP.
 
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dc89

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Roberto Mancini has said Carlos Tevez will not be leaving Manchester City this summer, after the club failed to agree a swap deal with Internazionale for the Italian club's striker Samuel Eto'o. Mancini also said a deal for the Partizan Belgrade defender Stefan Savic has been done and hinted at an interest in Arsenal's Samir Nasri.

"Yes, of course Tevez will stay, he is a fantastic player," the former Inter manager Mancini said. "There was talk of an exchange with Eto'o but Inter did not want to sell. I would say a deal for Savic has been done, but Nasri? No, not yet."

City have been linked with a variety of players in the transfer window and Mancini did nothing to quell speculation, naming a selection from Serie A. "I like Ezequiel Lavezzi, Marek Hamsik and Edinson Cavani. I like Javier Pastore a little less. Then, when I think of Udinese, I can think of Pablo Armero and Mauricio Isla. And I must say Antonio Di Natale. It's a pity that he is now getting on in years."

Nasri himself was reported on Saturday to have bemoaned his lack of trophies since arriving at Arsenal in 2008, saying that money is not his motivating factor. Negotiations have stalled on a new deal at the Emirates and, with the Frenchman's contract running out next summer, Arsenal may choose to cash in on him now rather than wait and lose him on a free transfer. Nasri's situation has sparked reported interest from both Manchester clubs and Chelsea.

"We already earn huge wages," Nasri said. "The priority is to make a big career and to win titles … With no titles under your belt, you can't be in the list for the Ballon D'Or. I came to England to get trophies because I haven't won anything in my career. I am hungry for titles. I play football because I love this sport and want to feel the emotion of winning. Lifting a trophy all together, this is the beauty and sense of team sports."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/03/carlos-tevez-manchester-city

Interesting.

Some say Savic is the next Vidic. He's only a young guy but he's meant to be the real deal.
 
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Splatt

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Savic is good, he was being tested at Arsenal a year or two ago. I'm not sure how long it'll take him to get used to PL, or if he'll even be on the bench the first year, but he's a talented young CB. I'm hoping the deal will include him staying at Partizan (local club I'm a fan of) for atleast half the season, but I higly doubt it.

If it doesn't... well, atleast I'll have an excuse to yell "DAMN YOU CITY AND YOUR SHEIKH MONEY!" :D
 
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Kermit The Dog

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yellow submarine said:
Wow, is everyone trying to leave before they're stuck with the cheque or something? It's not like Arsenal got relegated or something! They were in the top 4 for the league and went pretty far in the CL.
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Underlying consensus is that they're on the slide. Their capitulation in four competitions when they were in either very strong or strong positions obviously meddled with their pysche. Wenger is a champ and will turn it around, but in the meantime I don't think some of their top players are willing to stick around during the rebuild.

Hey Kermit, do you think City will sign Nasri?
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I do, eventually, and we'll probably lose either Given or SWP (or both) in the deal. As sad as it will be to see Given go, I think we've got a superior keeper in Hart. And Nasri could be a REAL handy acquisition once our schedule ramps up in CL weeks.
 
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Blackhead

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From arseblog
The Mirror links us with the left footed Jimmy Carter, Stewart Downing. I think you know how I feel about him, but listening to the radio this week I heard an interesting fact about him. On Newstalk’s Off The Ball show (Irish radio folks), never late Ken spoke about Downing as a potential Liverpool signing. You see, Liverpool have been looking at stats of players and while most of us live on goals and assists, those further into the whole stats thing look at something called ‘chance creation’.

This is the stat which measures the number of chances for a strike on goal, missed by the likes of Chamakh, each players makes. Near the top of that list is Jordan Henderson, Liverpool paid £20m. And also near the top of that list is Stewart Downing. Who knew? Not that this makes me any more open to signing the useless cunt, but there you go.
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Pundits have been suggesting that the new Liverpool management will adapt the methods, from baseball to soccer, that served them well in identifying undervalued talent but this is the first concrete example I've heard. Does anybody know anymore about this?
 
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GorillaJu

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There was a fantastic blog post by a Liverpool-supporting journalist that detailed why the system will be successful, if I recall correctly. I'm ashamed to admit I cannot find it for the life of me now, however. I think it was written by either Tony Barrett or Ben Smith.

In any case, it's mentioned in conversation often among Pool fans when discussing transfer targets and such. Mainly to point out, I suppose, that looks can be deceiving, and transfer targets should be chosen with good reason. For example, Downing and Henderson both rate very highly when you look at their chance creation statistics - something that has been missing for Liverpool since Gerrard's injury troubles. I believe Downing has an unusually good record of being dispossessed. You wouldn't watch their style of play and assume as much since they both do their job without flair and a distinct directness and simplicity. The oft-maligned Lucas Leiva also shines when looking at raw stats.

The stats also show a pretty distinct difference in the left backs being considered or targeted. Clichy beats Evra, Baines and Enrique when it comes to defensive stats. Ashley Cole takes the cake in nearly every department except for (iirc) accurate crosses, where Baines is king.
 
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Scum

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BBC said:
TRANSFER GOSSIP

Arsenal are ready to make a £20m move for Aston Villa winger Stewart Downing.

Carlos Tevez will be staying at Manchester City after the club failed to swap the striker for Inter Milan forward Samuel Eto'o. (News of the World - subscription required)

Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson revealed he pulled out of a £35m move for Udinese striker Alexis Sanchez after he learned the Chilean had agreed a switch to Barcelona. But he says he is still chasing Inter Milan midfielder Wesley Sneijder and Tottenham midfielder Luka Modric.

Manchester United striker Dimitar Berbatov is a £14m target for Valencia and Juventus. (News of the World - subscription required)

United defender John O'Shea is on the verge of completing a £3m move to Sunderland. (News of the World - subscription required)

Liverpool have set their sights on Newcastle left-back Jose Enrique after losing out to Manchester City in the battle to sign Arsenal's Gael Clichy. (News of the World - subscription required)

Clichy will complete an £8m move to City on Monday - and that will spark Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger into action as he tries to sign Bolton defender Gary Cahill, while Newcastle's Enrique is also a target.

The arrival of Clichy at Eastlands means City will allow £6m-rated defender Nedum Onuoha to leave, with Blackburn a likely destination. (Sunday Times - subscription required)

West Ham midfielder Scott Parker has turned down a £10m move to Turkish side Fenerbahce. (Sunday Times - subscription required)

Chelsea are keen to bring Marseille's £10m-rated midfielder Lucho Gonzalez to Stamford Bridge. (Sunday Express)

Arsenal midfielder Andrey Arshavin could be on his way to Turkish giants Galatasaray , who have offered £13.5m for the Russian. (Sunday Times - subscription required)

Manchester City have failed in an effort to sign Porto striker Hulk - the Brazilian says he has committed to the Portuguese club for another five years. (Sunday Times - subscription required)

Chelsea's hopes of signing Benfica left-back Fabio Coentrao have risen after Real Madrid's move for the player collapsed. (News of the World - subscription required)

Bolton are considering making an offer for Tottenham striker Robbie Keane.

West Brom have joined the chase for West Ham midfielder Jack Collison, who is also attracting interest from Tottenham and Liverpool. (News of the World - subscription required)

Swansea boss Brendan Rodgers believes he can use his links with Chelsea to secure a loan deal for defender Ryan Bertrand. (News of the World - subscription required)

Southampton are lining up Millwall winger James Henry as a replacement for Arsenal-bound Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. (News of the World - subscription required)

Newcastle are ready to spend £7.5m to sign Paris St Germain striker Mevlut Erdinc. (News of the World - subscription required)

West Ham manager Sam Allardyce is hoping to tempt Manchester City striker Craig Bellamy back to the club. (News of the World - subscription required)

Chelsea are to launch a shock bid for Arsenal winger Theo Walcott.

Arsenal's hopes of signing Ricardo Alvarez are in the balance after Inter Milan submitted a bid for the Velez Sarsfield midfielder.

Manchester City goalkeeper Shay Given has turned down a move to West Bromwich Albion and is holding out for a transfer to Aston Villa.

Sunderland are the favourites to sign Manchester United defender Wes Brown, having offered him a four-year deal.

Arsenal face a battle to sign Belgian international midfielder Eden Hazard, as Inter Milan are poised to make a bid for the Lille player.

Bayern Munich are losing patience in negotiations to sign Manchester City's Jerome Boateng and are prepared to walk away from the deal.

OTHER GOSSIP

Chelsea have hired Fernando Torres' personal fitness trainer in an attempt to kick-start the striker's stuttering career. (News of the World - subscription required)

Manchester United are to open talks with Nike over a world record kit deal worth £400m. (News of the World - subscription required)

United are also spending £250m on a 'virtual' hospital at their Carrington training base and will begin work on the facility next year. (News of the World - subscription required)

AND FINALLY

Men are "drama queens" when it comes to football, say sports scientists, who claim it actually takes them 30 seconds longer than women to get up after they have been fouled because they are looking for attention.

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/9529160.stm
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Arsenal should take the £13.5m offer for Arshavin from Galatasaray.
 
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Kermit The Dog

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Greyface said:
From arseblogPundits have been suggesting that the new Liverpool management will adapt the methods, from baseball to soccer, that served them well in identifying undervalued talent but this is the first concrete example I've heard. Does anybody know anymore about this?
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Might not be entirely relevant, but I'm pretty amazed of the lack of stat-tracking that seems to exists around football. Perhaps I'm simply comparing it too much to Aussie Rules, where each and every component of the game is tallied, recorded and meticulously analysed by experts and the like?

In football, you never really hear stats on passes completed, tackles, contested ball wins, distance ran, successful runs made, etc. I just imagine it would be a invaluable guide to judge whether a player will fit within the framework of a particular team, but it seems intensive stat-tracking/analysis isn't deemed important in football, for whichever reason.
 
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WJD

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Kermit The Dog said:
Might not be entirely relevant, but I'm pretty amazed of the lack of stat-tracking that seems to exists around football. Perhaps I'm simply comparing it too much to Aussie Rules, where each and every component of the game is tallied, recorded and meticulously analysed by experts and the like?

In football, you never really hear stats on passes completed, tackles, contested ball wins, distance ran, successful runs made, etc. I just imagine it would be a invaluable guide to judge whether a player will fit within the framework of a particular team, but it seems intensive stat-tracking/analysis isn't deemed important in football, for whichever reason.
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You're not familiar with Opta?

http://www.optasports.com/sports/football.html

http://twitter.com/#!/OptaJoe
 
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Vivalaraza

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Plasma said:
Didn't this story originate from a fake twitter radio interview quote?

Also no we should not take 13.5m for Arshavin, not with everyone else leaving and why are we going to bid 20m for Downing when we could get Mata for 23m?
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Because 23m - 20m = 3m

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elseanio

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odd_morsel said:
There was a fantastic blog post by a Liverpool-supporting journalist that detailed why the system will be successful, if I recall correctly. I'm ashamed to admit I cannot find it for the life of me now, however. I think it was written by either Tony Barrett or Ben Smith.
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Was it Tomkins?

Comolli was appointed on the recommendation of Billy Beane (Subject of 'Moneyball', as mentioned above)
 
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Milchmonster

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Kermit The Dog said:
Might not be entirely relevant, but I'm pretty amazed of the lack of stat-tracking that seems to exists around football. Perhaps I'm simply comparing it too much to Aussie Rules, where each and every component of the game is tallied, recorded and meticulously analysed by experts and the like?

In football, you never really hear stats on passes completed, tackles, contested ball wins, distance ran, successful runs made, etc. I just imagine it would be a invaluable guide to judge whether a player will fit within the framework of a particular team, but it seems intensive stat-tracking/analysis isn't deemed important in football, for whichever reason.
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What?

I can only really speak for the Bundesliga (as I'm not that interested in the details for other leagues) but the official Bundesliga website keeps track of like everything. It's all presented with nice graphics. You can't tell me there isn't such a thing for the Premier League?

And I know Bundesliga teams and the German national team look at the stats and tell the players where to improve. Again, I don't believe that teams like ManU, Chelsea and so on don't do that.
 
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Wes

venison crêpe
Just going to float this suggestion out there, see what kind of response it gets...

Who would be up for a network FM11 game over the next month or so? Just if you're interested at this point, not worrying about timings and clubs at the moment.
 
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elseanio

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Milchmonster said:
What?

I can only really speak for the Bundesliga (as I'm not that interested in the details for other leagues) but the official Bundesliga website keeps track of like everything. It's all presented with nice graphics. You can't tell me there isn't such a thing for the Premier League?

And I know Bundesliga teams and the German national team look at the stats and tell the players where to improve. Again, I don't believe that teams like ManU, Chelsea and so on don't do that.
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Guardian's ChalkBoards are pretty good. Opta also track everything, but I think you pay for their database. More for Jurnos and Sky etc

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/chalkboards


Wes said:
Just going to float this suggestion out there, see what kind of response it gets...

Who would be up for a network FM11 game over the next month or so? Just if you're interested at this point, not worrying about timings and clubs at the moment.
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I wasn't going to buy FM, but if people show interest in this between now and 6 I'm definitely jumping in!
 
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WJD

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Wes said:
Just going to float this suggestion out there, see what kind of response it gets...

Who would be up for a network FM11 game over the next month or so? Just if you're interested at this point, not worrying about timings and clubs at the moment.
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I'd be down.

(what's a network game?)
 
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Tim the Wiz

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Wes said:
Just going to float this suggestion out there, see what kind of response it gets...

Who would be up for a network FM11 game over the next month or so? Just if you're interested at this point, not worrying about timings and clubs at the moment.
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Hells yeah! It'd be difficult to go back to last season's squads with FM12 just around the corner, but I've never experienced a dedicated FM network game. Build it and I shall join.
 
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Wes

venison crêpe
WJD said:
I'd be down.

(what's a network game?)
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Simply explained it's Multiplayer. We would pick one league and people would each have a team from that and we'd play out a year.

There is a lot more involved but at this stage lets not worry about it.

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Hells yeah! It'd be difficult to go back to last season's squads with FM12 just around the corner, but I've never experienced a dedicated FM network game. Build it and I shall join.
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Consider it a dry run to see if we're organised enough to do a FM12 game upon release.
 
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Wes

venison crêpe
For the sake of simplicity just add your name to the list. Remember, this is just if you're interested. We'll sort out the more complicated stuff once the list is more formed.

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elseanio
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Tim the Wiz
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madmackem

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Gordon to arsenal for £4m, id be sad to see him go but hes on the last year of his deal and has been missing too many games. On his day he is in the top five keepers in the prem, just those niggling injurys means he doesnt play enough.
 
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Wes

venison crêpe
Jeez guys how hard is it to update the list in your posts :p

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