Jeff Albertson
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Funnily enough I remember your fans chanting for Dalglish and our fans laughing as it seemed like desperation then.Arnie said:
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Broder Salsa
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snoopen said:
Not one bit.
Well just having a quick look at the international stats, Lampard has 22 goals in 86 games, Gerrard has 19 in 89 and Rooney has 26 in 70. I wouldn't call them passengers in games and in world football today there's not many players in equivalent positions that have better stats than them.farhatraza said:
Broder Salsa
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Fry8 said:
Yeah sure he was, just after Green.
Stats can be deceptive. neither lampard nor rooney have scored for England in an international tournament since 2004they've never scored for England at the World Cup Finals! iirc Lampard set a new record in South Africa for most shots on goal by a player at the World Cup without scoring.doicare said:
Jeff Albertson
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Meus has created a monster and got half of GAF banned it seems!
Apparently Rovers new kit is upsetting a lot of people, its true halves rather than the 'quarters' we normally have (opposite front and back) which goes against tradition. Umbrah may have done goofed again!
Apparently Rovers new kit is upsetting a lot of people, its true halves rather than the 'quarters' we normally have (opposite front and back) which goes against tradition. Umbrah may have done goofed again!
Jeff Albertson
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I think meus ls ok but I think it was one of his threads that ended up being a deathtrap (about a tv show called taken)
Vivalaraza
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Jeff Albertson said:
What happened?
Fake edit - Found out now. Sounds like it was funny.
Joel Was Right
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The thread was swamped with 'Liam Neelson' posts. That's all they wrote, 'Liam Neelson'. About half a dozen members each posting two words 'Liam Neelson'. Thread was derailed. It wasn't even a discussion of Neelson or the Taken movie, but pure spamming. I asked them through PM to edit their messages and got a few foul messages in response. I then asked mods to remove the posts, because they were essentially spam, and edit the title to add 'miniseries'. Thread got locked and a Mod removed those posts and the ones that were being oddly personal with me in addition to giving those members bans. It's not the first time something like this has happened, but I didn't want them to get banned so I feel a little guilty by it. A couple of them, like giga, are cool members that I get along with.
It annoys me that people feel like they have the licence to spam/troll on certain threads and not others. It's happened a couple times with me, and it seems some members - when seeing who the thread starter is (me) - just dive right in.
It annoys me that people feel like they have the licence to spam/troll on certain threads and not others. It's happened a couple times with me, and it seems some members - when seeing who the thread starter is (me) - just dive right in.
"Nasri agrees £185,000 weekly wage with Man City. Fee not fixed yet, but Arsenal's asking price 25m."
http://t.co/5lFBxnv
http://t.co/5lFBxnv
Kermit The Dog
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Meus Renaissance said:
WTF was that guy's problem? What a lunatic. I'll fall in line behind you because you're an Aussie.
Regulus Tera
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Are any GAFfers going to the Azteca tomorrow? I'm so hyped.
Joel Was Right
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Kermit The Dog said:WTF was that guy's problem? What a lunatic. I'll fall in line behind you because you're an Aussie.
Lol what gave you the impression I was Australian?
Salazar said:
No one here knows where I'm from.
Broder Salsa
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Meus Renaissance said:
Wow what a response from that guy. Was wondering what the hell had hapenned in there.
Gareth Bale
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Meus Renaissance said:
Everyone knows you're from Area 51
Aren't you American/Somalian living in England?
Gareth Bale
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...e-on-citys-163400m-windfall-deal-2309866.html
"Using appropriate industry benchmarks" City are probably getting around £300 million more than they should for this deal. And because City aren't a big club, UEFA will in theory be more likely to clamp down on them trying to cheat their way past FFP.
"Using appropriate industry benchmarks" City are probably getting around £300 million more than they should for this deal. And because City aren't a big club, UEFA will in theory be more likely to clamp down on them trying to cheat their way past FFP.
bonesmccoy
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On the one hand, I'm happy that UEFA is even looking at these things now. On the other, it's utter bullocks that City are getting this treatment, while Madrid and Barca have been able to create massive debt and work out remarkably beneficial loan agreements without anyone so much as a batting an eye.
And yes, good riddance to bad rubbish - WWC. If FIFA wants this thing to grow, they need to hire/train referees who can actually call a game.
And yes, good riddance to bad rubbish - WWC. If FIFA wants this thing to grow, they need to hire/train referees who can actually call a game.
Kermit The Dog
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I guess that depends on your definition of "big"...Bungieware said:
Gareth Bale
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bonesmccoy said:
I don't really understand your argument. Real Madrid and Barcelona are in a different situation to Manchester City in terms of their revenues.
Kermit The Dog
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I can't deny that, but City's always been big in my biased eyes. It's nice that now we may finally become relevant on a world stage. Eventually. We must prove it in the field first though.Salazar said:
Out if curiosity, do you guys deem Chelsea as a big club?
Gareth Bale
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Kermit The Dog said:
Beating Stoke 1-0 in the final wasn't anywhere near as big a deal as you think it was.
Regulus Tera
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Every time I read a Kermit post I get the impression that he's under the impression that everyone's out to get Manchester City.
Is it just me?
Is it just me?
Lightning said:
Well Denilson said he wanted to leave, but no one wants his stupid ass. I can't really blame them. Maybe he can get signed on somewhere as a mascot or ball boy or something. He can't be that useless....well....nvm.
dc89 said:
I hate it when refs let Liverpool play on till they win....or Sunderland. The list goes on for our offenders.
Messi said:
You seriously need help...or a very high paying job. I hope all you do is wear football kits, cause if not, that's a lot of wasted money. But then again, if all you are doing is wearing football kits, you still have a problem haha
pix said:
I will believe this whenever it finally happens...and aren't you supposed to agree terms with the club before the player? Pretty sure that's not legal. Also pretty sure the papers are talking out their asses.
Messi said:Trust farhatraza to keep a level head and opinion
Well that's a totally different argument right there. Pique is the better defender of the two atm but for United, Smalling is the better choice. Much better suited for PL style football.
Chelsea are a big club.
They basically spearheaded the mega-money era.
City arent big because they havent accomplished anything. Back at the start of the Russian days, they werent big either but they succeeded and grew to be big. Win the league or progress really far into the Champions League on a yearly basis then you are big. This is the modern era.
They basically spearheaded the mega-money era.
City arent big because they havent accomplished anything. Back at the start of the Russian days, they werent big either but they succeeded and grew to be big. Win the league or progress really far into the Champions League on a yearly basis then you are big. This is the modern era.
Gareth Bale
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Historically Chelsea are not a big club. Most of their major honors have come in the last 6 years. Before 2005 they had only won the league once. To put this into perspective, Everton have won the league 8 or 9 times... I can't be bothered to check which one it is, but it's definitely one of them.
See the post above mine for a brief history of football according to Sky Sports
See the post above mine for a brief history of football according to Sky Sports
sorry
Chelsea are nearly a big club. They're 80% of the way there but I really feel they need to win a Champions League before they truthfully become one. I define a big club by a global reach, and Chelsea have certainly made great strides in that department in the Abramovich era. They've had sustained domestic success as well as reached a final.Kermit The Dog said:
As for City, like you say, eventually, as long as you maintain your current momentum. Chelsea are nearly there after seven years but they've had a near perfect run. Fantastic manager, winning crop of players and a mega bucks owner. At the moment I only see City with one of them things but the other two should come with time and progress, especially if you can tap the loopholes of the FFP like you seem to be doing.
As an example to better illustrate my point from a different view, if Malaga break into the third position behind Real and Barca next season, as well as winning the Spanish Cup they won't be classed as a big club, they need to harness that potential and continue to make the same strides each season.
That was one of the lowest moments I've had as a Liverpool fan. Shouting at my fellow fans to stop insulting a manager that was inept at managing our club, simply out of pride and principle. Another reason I didn't feel like joining in is I was partly scared that we were putting too much pressure on Dalglish, especially with the likes of Chriswok on here predicting he'd be a flop.Jeff Albertson said:
It was such a strange night, capped off by parking right next to 'Dalglish Way'.
This is how I see it.Bungieware said:
Maybe it's because of the way I was brought up and that there's a significant Everton presence in my family but I see Everton as a bigger club than Chelsea, in my eyes anyway. Just because something didn't happen in my lifetime doesn't mean it didn't happen at all. That's not to demean Chelsea, they've made massive strides these last seven years and they're nearly there, which goes to illustrate how far off City are.
Oh and it's nice that we're all awake nice and early this morning.
Gareth Bale
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Just got back from a week in Barbados so I'm proper jet-lagged right now.
Just read that Real Madrid left Roysten Drenthe, Sergio Canales, Lassana Diarra and Pedro Leon out of there preseason tour. Seems like a pretty standard way to find out that you're not wanted these days.
A few reports this morning that Gibson won't be joining Sunderland as his wage demands are too high. United fans take to twitter en masse to express their delight.
Just read that Real Madrid left Roysten Drenthe, Sergio Canales, Lassana Diarra and Pedro Leon out of there preseason tour. Seems like a pretty standard way to find out that you're not wanted these days.
A few reports this morning that Gibson won't be joining Sunderland as his wage demands are too high. United fans take to twitter en masse to express their delight.
Bungieware said:
Yeah sort of glad in a way, would still like him here but if he is wanting too much money then so be it. He was a large chunk of that £12m deal too so maybe money left over for another signing or so. Heard anything on this defeo deal, dont think it will happen as i dont think he will move this far north.
Merieles has been left out of our travelling squad too, seems he's on his way. I'm sad about it to be honest, he's brought me many great memories this season which stand out against the darkest days. Chelsea away was bliss, seeing Torres' face as we took the lead and being stood behind some Chelsea fans screaming my tits off in the Uni bar was absolute perfection, I'll be very sad to see him leave.Bungieware said:
But I guess that's football. We can make a decent chunk of money out of Raul because of the great season he's had, and we already have (in my opinion) a technically better player in Aquilani ready to replace him.
Bungieware said:
Beating Stoke was big. It won us our first trophy in 35 years. Just like beating Tottenham was big, qualified for the CL for the first time to. The score line is irrelevant at the end of the day. If we won both games 5-0 we'd have still got the same cup and qualification.
Also City have had several meetings with UEFA since the take over, they have had a 'open dialogue' on how City plan to meet FFP. I'm sure if UEFA weren't overly happy with anything we'd have heard by now and they wouldn't have allowed that deal to go through.
People are just graspim at straws now, just let City get on with what they are doing.
Kermit The Dog
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Arnie said:
It's mid-afternoon here. Fucking freezing too.
In terms of the City stadium deal, I would be very, very surprised if the City owners foresaw the UEFA probe and covered their arse in every which way possible. You don't go and make a colossally expensive, 10 year agreement with a company without being sure it would slip through the cracks of the FFP guidelines. I'd also be very disappointed, because they've not point a step wrong thus far.
This statement says more about your headspace than mine. In the realm of Manchester City, winning the FA Cup was massive. In terms of world football, it's lightweight. This was obvious, and I do not and never will equate winning the FA Cup with City being a 'big club'. Our CL entry, our ability to attract quality players, our competitiveness in the PL, our footprint on growing football nations in the Middle East, ability to attract big-name sponsorship (heh
), etc is what is helping us move in the right direction. I'm under no illusion that City is yet a 'big club', and certainly not by the ruthless standards of this thread. I'd be lying, however, if I were to say I'm not optimistic about our future.
Yep, there's nothing Uefa can and will do about City. Like I said yesterday, there's nothing stopping the Shiekh from buying a million replica City shirts and pumping money in that way. Uefa were never going to force Madrid to break even, so the whole thing is just a smokescreen in my eyes.
It covers their back as they can say, "well we have attempted to curb the gross overspending in football", but in reality they know there's nothing they can do to clubs as wealthy as City and Madrid.
It covers their back as they can say, "well we have attempted to curb the gross overspending in football", but in reality they know there's nothing they can do to clubs as wealthy as City and Madrid.
Kermit The Dog
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Bungieware said:
Also, after reading that article more carefully, it's a piece of blatant tabloid tosh. The "spokesman" quote (spokesman of who?!) reels out a rudimentary stock reply as though they are responding to a journalist's prodding. There's no reference to City, only that UEFA examines any and all major sponsorship deals, and considering City just signed off on a major deal, it's obvious the deal will be scrutinised. The only colour in the story is a quote from a Bayern Muncih exec and a spokesman for the "Arsenal Supporters Club". I mean, come on. What a beat-up. :lol
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