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[Kermit The Dog]

You waited for someone else to put forward their opinion on UEFA's relationship with City regarding FFP, before deciding that you too had exactly the same opinion. I expect no less of you.

I have made that point before. I have previously stated City's owners are quite savvy and would expect a UEFA probe, at the very least.

So it's clear, the spokesman quoted was a UEFA spokesman.

How is that clear in the article? It isn't. It's never specified.

Having said that I fully expect you to assume your standard baseless opinion that everything I have written is wrong. Please don't.

I never said what you wrote was wrong, just that the article you underlined it with was bogus.

The problem is you have this reputation of being spiteful and incredibly uninformed on the world of football, made clear by the fact that you only make two types of posts in this thread; those about City and those that insult the teams we support.

Absolute nonsense. I post generally about City, but reject your 'insult other teams' assertion. That is baseless. I openly respond to trollish fans, but never the actual club. I'd really love to see an example of this.

You've clearly made no attempt to look at the industry in more depth as I suggest. Arnie provided an idea of the current market to you, and your response had no substance to it whatsoever. The benchmarks are there and because you have failed to make an attempt to understand this part of the industry, for whatever pathetic reason you are yet to give, I urge you not to try and tackle these areas until you have this understanding.

You again failed to read my post. I specifically pointed out that you had no knowledge of the intricacies and implications that made up the FFP benchmarks and the City stadium deal. You claim to know the ins and outs of the FFP benchmarks, but I'm yet to see it. You haven't managed to argue how this 'knowledge' relates to the City stadium deal, considering we have very little to go on thus far. You claimed the deal is rubbish, which is fine, but backed it up by a horrible article and when challenged, claimed I don't know what I was talking about. All I ask is that you explain your position, why you believe it will fall outside of said benchmarks, and please give substance to your claims of expertise.

Anyway, although your attempts to belittle my position are noted, I have done a little research into the FFP guidelines and the manner in which this will affect City. From what I can see, there is alot of judgement but not alot of substance behind the City-angled derision following the deal. From my understanding, City has isolated the grey areas in the UEFA legislation and the current stadium deal, but particularly the Etihad Campus component, is a direct answer to the regulation. The agreement is a package deal, and well-crafted one. As this article by The Telgraph notes, sometimes forgotten in all of this is the fact City's kit sponsorship is part of the 400 million deal. In comparison to United, who are supposedly set to claim 500 million alone for the kit deal, and Barca, who signed a 125 mill deal with Qatar Foundation recently, it starts to unfold that this 400 million City agreement, which encompasses stadium rights, sponsorship right, kit rights and the entirety of Etihad Campus, is slightly easier on the eye. It says two things: one, how small a club City is in terms of sponsorship money, and two, how much room they have to grow.

I will take your suggestion on board and I'm off to read into the detailed legislation that makes up the FFP guidelines.

 

[Scum]

I don't an ethical dilemma in players pay. It's tends to fall in line with the clubs revenue. If we didn't watch they wouldn't get paid at all. If players were paid less, clubs would be better off and then competition would push their pay up anyway. Football is a business, or a toy if you have unlimited money.

If any club can afford to shell out £250,000 a week and in doing so secure the best players, then why wouldn't they?

Well, I'd rather they spent that £250,000 a week in generating their own classy players but that's just me.

 

[GorillaJu]

I agree except that the sport gradually commercializes and loses a bit of heart every year. You can't stop kids from playing and loving the sport, but the prices and commercialization are doing a lot to make it harder to see your favorite team play

(response to bung)

 

[MarshMellow96]

Love the fact that Juventus have the money to shell out on Meireles. What about that other bloke you agreed to buy?

 

[Salazar]

I agree except that the sport gradually commercializes and loses a bit of heart every year. You can't stop kids from playing and loving the sport, but the prices and commercialization are doing a lot to make it harder to see your favorite team play

(response to bung)

And the fairly sudden burst of full professional wages at a big club probably has something to do with players developing the kind of social megalomania that makes you think you can cruise through life shagging 10 women as well as your wife.

 

[Arnie]

Love the fact that Juventus have the money to shell out on Meireles. What about that other bloke you agreed to buy?

As much as I like Meireles and I'm sad to see him seemingly on his way out, I do think Aquilani is better technically, it was only fitness holding him back. If Aquilani can stay fit he could be a huge player for us this coming season.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Wow, Modric has said he wants to leave and Levy agreed to sell him last summer if a bigger club came calling. He also says that Levy threatened to put him in the reserves or stands.

Just read the article on the Guardian website. Will post link when I'm at a computer.

 

[Seep]

That would give them one more reason to opt for other leagues.

Fuck them, we want players who want to play not collect money.

 

[thaOwner]

Wow, Modric has said he wants to leave and Levy agreed to sell him last summer if a bigger club came calling. He also says that Levy threatened to put him in the reserves or stands.

Just read the article on the Guardian website. Will post link when I'm at a computer.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/10/luka-modric-daniel-levy-spurs

 

[MarshMellow96]

As much as I like Meireles and I'm sad to see him seemingly on his way out, I do think Aquilani is better technically, it was only fitness holding him back. If Aquilani can stay fit he could be a huge player for us this coming season.

A fully fit Aquilani whose head isn't across the pond would be a fabulous asset to us.

But yeah, I'm sad to see Meireles go too. I can understand why, though.

 

[Arnie]

Shit, assuming that the article is true it looks like Modric is on his way out of Spurs, there seems no way they can keep him now. Just hope Spurs don't come knocking for Aquilani to replace him.

 

[Scum]

It's going to be a long transfer summer. :-/

 

[Gareth Bale]

Absolute nonsense. I post generally about City, but reject your 'insult other teams' assertion. That is baseless. I openly respond to trollish fans, but never the actual club. I'd really love to see an example of this.

You insulted Everton a few times a while back. Dig it up yourself. And I shouldn't have to remind you of when you called someone a cunt for no reason at all.

You again failed to read my post. I specifically pointed out that you had no knowledge of the intricacies and implications that made up the FFP benchmarks and the City stadium deal. You claim to know the ins and outs of the FFP benchmarks, but I'm yet to see it. You haven't managed to argue how this 'knowledge' relates to the City stadium deal, considering we have very little to go on thus far. You claimed the deal is rubbish, which is fine, but backed it up by a horrible article and when challenged, claimed I don't know what I was talking about. All I ask is that you explain your position, why you believe it will fall outside of said benchmarks, and please give substance to your claims of expertise.

I didn't fail to read your post. Wow. You never asked me to point out exactly what these benchmarks were. You just kept saying I have no idea what they are. I do, but this is exactly why told you to read up on it. It's better if you read it yourself so you don't dispute it like you tend to do. The current highest naming rights deal in the world is $400 million over 20 years (Citi Field) so it's pretty clear that City's £400 million over 10 years is incredibly overvalued. Arsenal may have accepted unfavourable terms for various financial reasons, but they are still a bigger club than City and their deal was a fraction of that.

Anyway, although your attempts to belittle my position are noted, I have done a little research into the FFP guidelines and the manner in which this will affect City. From what I can see, there is alot of judgement but not alot of substance behind the City-angled derision following the deal. From my understanding, City has isolated the grey areas in the UEFA legislation and the current stadium deal, but particularly the Etihad Campus component, is a direct answer to the regulation. The agreement is a package deal, and well-crafted one. As this article by The Telgraph notes, sometimes forgotten in all of this is the fact City's kit sponsorship is part of the 400 million deal. In comparison to United, who are supposedly set to claim 500 million alone for the kit deal, and Barca, who signed a 125 mill deal with Qatar Foundation recently, it starts to unfold that this 400 million City agreement, which encompasses stadium rights, sponsorship right, kit rights and the entirety of Etihad Campus, is slightly easier on the eye. It says two things: one, how small a club City is in terms of sponsorship money, and two, how much room they have to grow.

United don't have a £500 million kit deal, but if they did it would be with Nike and not Aon. You're comparing shirt manufacturers with shirt sponsors, and the nature of these deals is different. Apart from that, United and Barca can command much greater amount than City because they have much greater exposure and a much large fanbase. Their deals are what I would call "benchmarks". For the record, City's shirt sponsorship deal was worth £2-3 million a year. That should tell you something.

I will take your suggestion on board and I'm off to read into the detailed legislation that makes up the FFP guidelines.

Good. If you had done that before then I'd like to think that we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.

 

[Jeff Albertson]

And once again the thread is shit, I'm noticing a trend

 

[Scum]

I've been meaning to ask this.
Do you lads think that the Premier League, or all the other leagues for that matter, would benefit from a winter break? Or would the likes of Sky be pissed at the idea of losing out to the lucrative 3-4 games in 10 days money they could make over the festive period?

 

[Billy Shears]

Anyone here going to a United American tour date? What can I expect?

 

[Hixx]

I've been meaning to ask this.
Do you lads think that the Premier League, or all the other leagues for that matter, would benefit from a winter break? Or would the likes of Sky be pissed at the idea of losing out to the lucrative 3-4 games in 10 days money they could make over the festive period?

Winter break in January or not at all, the football over christmas/new years is something to look forward to. Boxing Day and New Years games are a tradition I would like to keep.

 

[Scum]

Winter break in January or not at all, the football over christmas/new years is something to look forward to. Boxing Day and New Years games are a tradition I would like to keep.

Bloody good point. Maybe the 1st three weeks in Jan off, and the 3rd round of the FA Cup on the 4th/last weekend of Jan, perhaps?

 

[Salazar]

Winter break in January or not at all, the football over christmas/new years is something to look forward to. Boxing Day and New Years games are a tradition I would like to keep.

Yep. It's nice to phone my Liverpool supporter uncle and both wish him season's greetings and wind him up at the same time.

 

[Arnie]

Winter break in January or not at all, the football over christmas/new years is something to look forward to. Boxing Day and New Years games are a tradition I would like to keep.

Yes this is my reasoning to. It's so good to have Christmas Day and then a football match to go to on Boxing Day, perfect. That string of fixtures/festive period is a perfect storm in my opinion and my favourite time of the year, I'd be incredibly sad to see it go.

Going to buy my tickets for the first half of next season on Thursday morning as that's when they go on sale for most members, going to do one a month (can't do more as I have to travel from Uni which is in Sheffield). Definitely doing Sunderland, Wolves (so I can get my United ballot ticket), United, City and Blackburn (Boxing Day). Should be good.

 

[Splatt]

Thread's gone down the shitter.

 

[Vivalaraza]

Winter break would be good but I can't see it working in the PL. We have too many games with the FA Cup and League Cup I'm not sure we can afford to give up two weeks which is probably about 3/4 fixtures worth. Those games would slot black in during the season and cause fixture pile up. If we didn't have
pointless mid season international friendlies though I'm sure it could work.

Would only be a matter of time before teams went on mid-season tours!

 

[confuziz]

I've been meaning to ask this.
Do you lads think that the Premier League, or all the other leagues for that matter, would benefit from a winter break? Or would the likes of Sky be pissed at the idea of losing out to the lucrative 3-4 games in 10 days money they could make over the festive period?

Afaik only the Eredivisie has this..

 

[Arnie]

Meireles is on the plane to Asia after all. Just seen a picture of him.

 

[elseanio]

Yes this is my reasoning to. It's so good to have Christmas Day and then a football match to go to on Boxing Day, perfect. That string of fixtures/festive period is a perfect storm in my opinion and my favourite time of the year, I'd be incredibly sad to see it go.

Going to buy my tickets for the first half of next season on Thursday morning as that's when they go on sale for most members, going to do one a month (can't do more as I have to travel from Uni which is in Sheffield). Definitely doing Sunderland, Wolves (so I can get my United ballot ticket), United, City and Blackburn (Boxing Day). Should be good.

Tickets for the Mancs is on last years count

"Tickets will be available to Members who recorded 7 or more home league games against their Members Card during the 2010/11 Season. Tickets will be available online on telephone 0843 170 5555 from 8.15am and remain on sale until 5pm 15/7/2011"

Also, cat C games I believe go on sale Tuesday.. I think it's just Wolves and Swansea for the first batch.

They have updated the site (looks awful.. too big..) so get the dates down, as it's a bit confusing.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/tickets/latest-ticket-news

 

[dc89]

Thread's gone down the shitter.

Agh well.

|OT3| is a fresh start.

 

[near]

:lol Kermit isn't so popular in this thread at all. I'm constantly reading plenty of posts that seem to detest him. To be honest, he does make statements I really disagree on, but everyone else seems to get onto him for it. So I just stay out of it.

In other news, Villa have stepped up there interest in Alan Hutton according to SSN. And Roma signed Erik Lamela for £17.7million.

 

[Arnie]

Tickets for the Mancs is on last years count

"Tickets will be available to Members who recorded 7 or more home league games against their Members Card during the 2010/11 Season. Tickets will be available online on telephone 0843 170 5555 from 8.15am and remain on sale until 5pm 15/7/2011"

Also, cat C games I believe go on sale Tuesday.. I think it's just Wolves and Swansea for the first batch.

They have updated the site (looks awful.. too big..) so get the dates down, as it's a bit confusing.

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/tickets/latest-ticket-news

Yea I was wondering this, I only have 5 from last season but I went to the United Home game, however I got there through the Ballot, I was wondering if that is counted on my fan card or if because it was a ballot it's not actually put directly onto my fan card history. I think I read that if you went to the game last season you're eligible to apply again. If not then I'm going to go for Wolves which is the home game before it so I can try and get in through the Ballot again. I'll probably try and do similar for the Everton game in February too.

 

[Salazar]

No more NOTW transfer nonsense.

It's like turning off a shite-spraying hose.

 

[anonnumber6]

Doesn't make it right at all. The ethical dilemma is just too huge to ignore when you consider how many of those fans, who essentially pay for his contract, are unemployed or working minimum wage. I don't care if you're scoring a hattrick a game, nothing can ever justify that sort of money (or what they earn now to be honest) for kicking a ball about

I have to disagree on this and it is an argument I hear it quite a lot from people whop buy season tickets every year and buy £40 shirts every season yet still complain about footballers being paid a lot yet wear their name on the back of their shirts.

Football is big business and most of their revenue is due to the footballers themselves, their marginal revenue product I would assume is very high. The contracts clubs give to Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney pay for themselves, the clubs still make a very healthy operating profit. If you were playing for a club and responsible for £100m in revenue you will want a cut of it just as the man who invents product x and sells it which results in £100m wants a cut of that too. Footballers don't have long careers and it is a very high risk career, the footballers on contracts worth millions are the very best and just because they aren't in careers that doesn't require a degree should not mean they aren't entitled to their salaries.

I'm also just talking the players playing in the higher leagues and forgetting the ones who earn less than £1,000 a week.

People who complain about footballers wages yet still demand high quality football and are willing to spend money to support it are hypocrites to be frank, just withdraw your money if you don't like their contracts..

 

[Vivalaraza]

I have to disagree on this and it is an argument I hear it quite a lot from people whop buy season tickets every year and buy £40 shirts every season yet still complain about footballers being paid a lot yet wear their name on the back of their shirts.

Football is big business and most of their revenue is due to the footballers themselves, their marginal revenue product I would assume is very high. The contracts clubs give to Messi, Ronaldo and Rooney pay for themselves, the clubs still make a very healthy operating profit. If you were playing for a club and responsible for £100m in revenue you will want a cut of it just as the man who invents product x and sells it which results in £100m wants a cut of that too. Footballers don't have long careers and it is a very high risk career, the footballers on contracts worth millions are the very best and just because they aren't in careers that doesn't require a degree should not mean they aren't entitled to their salaries.

I'm also just talking the players playing in the higher leagues and forgetting the ones who earn less than £1,000 a week.

People who complain about footballers wages yet still demand high quality football and are willing to spend money to support it are hypocrites to be frank, just withdraw your money if you don't like their contracts..

Totally agree. The money can stay with clubs/players/fans and grass roots. If it's not staying with fans I'd rather it go to players than clubs and their owners. These players make the money they do because they are the prime asset to the sport.

The only thing I'd say is nowadays wages have exceeded revenue as the level of debt rises. We have maybe gone too far.

Still remember United breaking their wage structure for Roy Keane and giving him 50k p/w 10 years ago. Last year we did the same with Rooney, only to give him 200k p/w. Madness.

 

[Kermit The Dog]

I'm liking this new Liverpool site. Good stuff. Nice how they stream the friendlies too, are they free to watch?

 

[MPW]

A series of police raids last Sunday (July 3) saw some of the most influential clubs and figureheads of the Turkish game implicated in an investigation into match-fixing, with details emerging that authorities were looking into at least 20 matches from the 2010-11 season.

Less than a week later in excess of 60 people have been arrested, but the most important detention remains that of Fenerbahce president Aziz Yildirim, with two of the key matches under scrutiny being Fener's games against Eskisehirspor in April, and the last day title-clincher against Sivasspor. Sivas' president Mecnun Odyakmaz, Eskisehirspor sporting director Umit Karan and Eskisehir coach Bulent Uygun are also among the arrests.

Yildirim is currently on conditional release for treatment having been taken ill in custody, but public sympathy in Turkey is in short supply for a strongly divisive figure with an explosive temperament. "He always behaves very aggressively to journalists, cameramen and others," says Istanbul-based journalist Yakir Mizrahi. "He is an idol to his own flock - he invested a lot of money to renovate the stadium, and (provide) new training facilities over the last 13 years, and Fenerbahce fans love him, because of his role in making a globally-known club," says Mizrahi - but there is considerable schadenfreude for a man considered brash and unpleasant in many quarters.

The consequences of a guilty verdict would be crushing for Yildirim and Fener. The TFF would strip the club of its title - its 18th, which put it one ahead of bitter rivals Galatasaray - and relegation would almost certainly follow, in a mirror of the punishments dished out to Juventus post-Calciopoli. Fener would incur an immediate loss in excess of £30 million - £10.8 million from TV rights, £8 million in bonuses and £5.7 million in prize money - losing around £10 million more that would come with Champions League qualification. The player exodus that would follow relegation would be an administrative as well as a financial necessity; league rules limit second-tier teams to three foreign players in their squad, and Fener currently have ten.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/933067/turkey-at-crossroads?cc=5901

fener = turkish juve?

 

[Salazar]

Oh shit.

We have some Turkish gaffers, right ?

 

[Facism]

they'll ignore trabzon being gifted games, galatasaray's fishy transfer and player management, plus the referee bias against besiktas. couple that with the apparent bullshittery over player selection and tactics with the national team, it looks like corruption is rife everywhere in Turkish football. somebody is working hard to push Turkish football back 10 years.

we'll likely see trabzonspor and bursa embarrass the nation in the champs league.

if there's any good news it's that yildirim will likely gtfo of football. terrible person.

 

[Scum]

Bloody hell, Turkish footie!

 

[MPW]

i don't think TFF has the balls to punish fener severely, no way in hell fener gets relegated

important dates:

Pressure to act quickly is considerable. The Super Lig restarts on August 7, but the Super Cup showpiece between Fener and cup winners Besiktas is scheduled for July 31. Before both those dates, on July 15 (next Friday), UEFA requires confirmation from the TFF of the Turkish clubs that will be involved in the Champions League. "It might take a very long time for the (criminal) investigation to conclude. Therefore we have to act upon the evidence at hand," TFF chairman Mehmet Ali Aydinlar told NTV this week.

 

[Facism]

i don't think TFF has the balls to punish fener severely, no way in hell fener gets relegated

it's going to happen. it's one of the latest steps in the tff's bid to crush the stranglehold that the big Istanbul clubs have had on the league.

they've got phone taps of yildirim arranging to bribe referees over the phone.

 

[Kozak]

Its fucking bullshit. I can't even make proper comment on it.

All I (think) know is nothing will come of this. If we did rig the title why the fuck would we leave it such slim margins??

it's going to happen. it's one of the latest steps in the tff's bid to crush the stranglehold that the big Istanbul clubs have had on the league.

they've got phone taps of yildirim arranging to bribe referees over the phone.

What do you think will happen to our foreigners if we do get relegated? Do we just loan them out or sell?

I still think this whole thing is ridiculous and that they've got as much evidence against Fenerbahce as they do with other clubs.

 

[elseanio]

I'm liking this new Liverpool site. Good stuff. Nice how they stream the friendlies too, are they free to watch?

Site's nothing compared to Cities Not sure if the friendlies are free, as I have the paid service. They're on LFC TV, which is free for some people.

Also, statement on Anfield:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/lfc-statement-on-stadium

Liverpool FC today made clear its frustration at the obstacles facing the potential re-development of Anfield.


The Club has been comprehensively exploring all options open to it in terms of new stadium development or expansion, which has included a study into the refurbishment of both its Main and Anfield Road Stands to increase capacity beyond 60,000 seats.

Managing Director Ian Ayre said: "In the nine months since the new ownership, an enormous amount of work has been undertaken in conjunction with leading architects, consultants, other industry experts and with Liverpool City Council to explore the building of a new stadium as well as exploring a refurbishment solution that could deliver the necessary growth in capacity, whilst maintaining the heritage and atmosphere that make Anfield uniquely Liverpool FC. However, with land/property acquisition, environmental and statutory issues creating barriers to our ambition, it looks increasingly unlikely there is any way we can move forward on a refurbishment of Anfield unless there are significant changes in those areas."

Commenting further on the options open to the Club, Ayre explained: "In terms of a Stanley Park stadium versus redevelopment, there is absolutely no question that a refurbishment of Anfield would come at a significantly lower cost than a new build. A new stadium of course also has its merits, being modern, more functional, and easier to construct. However, a new 60,000 capacity ground also comes at a significantly higher price, while at the same time only delivering roughly the same amount of revenue as a refurbishment of Anfield - with both options offering an uplift of approximately 16,000 seats each."

Added Ayre: "It's disappointing that based on where we are at the moment, we seem to be unable to press on with the more viable economic option of a refurbishment, but we remain committed to finding the best possible long-term solution. We already have a very healthy dialogue in place with several leading brands regarding naming rights for a new stadium, but like every major deal we have ever done, that just takes time to explore in full. We also have ongoing discussions with various parties around the financing of either facility. Our challenge now is to try to find a way to bring all of those elements together in a solution that is in the best interests of Liverpool Football Club and its fans.

"We are mindful that supporters have been promised a solution in the past and have been disappointed, and also that local residents would like to know what direction we are headed in. However, just like any other business, we can only proceed as and when we are clear on all elements and we will not be forced to make a decision that is not in the best long-term interests of our club and we will not make any promises to our fans that we cannot keep. We will continue to work diligently on this project and keep our fans informed of any progress."

Council leader Joe Anderson said: "We recognise that Liverpool FC need to make the right decision on the stadium options, and it is crucial that it is not only the right one for the club but also for local residents.

"We fully appreciate that the new owners have made real progress over the past nine months since they took over, and we will continue to support what they are trying to deliver. However, it is unfortunately the reality that the debate and discussions over a new stadium have gone on for many years, causing a great deal of frustration and uncertainty within the local community.

"Although we are fully supportive of the club, we can't ignore the fact that the clock is and has been ticking, and people need certainty about the development.

"We will do what we can to continue to help the club, and I can reassure people that we will be pressing for a decision as soon as is practically possible that will benefit Liverpool FC and deliver the much needed regeneration that the area so badly needs."

 

[Kermit The Dog]

Site's nothing compared to Cities Not sure if the friendlies are free, as I have the paid service. They're on LFC TV, which is free for some people.

Also, statement on Anfield:

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/lfc-statement-on-stadium

How much do you pay for the service? I'm sure City will charge for it eventually

And what are the main issues holding an Anfied redevelopment back? Stubborn neighbours?

 

[elseanio]

I think it's £30 a year.. not sure, I use a friends log-in

You get to stream LFCtv, watch training vids and interviews etc (similar to thos City vids posted), and also go into a ballot of 500 or so tickets for every league game. It's a handy way to get a ticket for the big games if you don't go often, and I've had a lot of success with it in the past.

I doubt City will start charging any time soon. Not like you need to make money like everyone else any more

Edit* Yes, Anfield is bang in the middle of a residential area. Houses on the doorstep of each stand. They would also need to provide better transport links, which I'm guessing would be easier with a new stadium. I'm all for a new Anfield to be honest.

 

[Ushojax]

Ugh, I just got back from work and read the Guardian article about Modric. Let's just sell the prick and be done with it, I can't be arsed having this drag on like Berbatov's transfer and fuck up our plans. Chelsea's usual tapping up tricks have worked a treat and it doesn't seem like he wants to stay.

 

[MPW]

Its fucking bullshit. I can't even make proper comment on it.

All I (think) know is nothing will come of this. If we did rig the title why the fuck would we leave it such slim margins??




What do you think will happen to our foreigners if we do get relegated? Do we just loan them out or sell?

I still think this whole thing is ridiculous and that they've got as much evidence against Fenerbahce as they do with other clubs.

loan? it will be a firesale!

 

[Kozak]

loan? it will be a firesale!

Problem is we just bought them.

One of the foreign players we bought sparked some of this madness during last season.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Ugh, I just got back from work and read the Guardian article about Modric. Let's just sell the prick and be done with it, I can't be arsed having this drag on like Berbatov's transfer and fuck up our plans. Chelsea's usual tapping up tricks have worked a treat and it doesn't seem like he wants to stay.

Spurs are a small club, brah. He said it himself.

 

[Kermit The Dog]

go into a ballot of 500 or so tickets for every league game. It's a handy way to get a ticket for the big games if you don't go often, and I've had a lot of success with it in the past.

Really?! That's a bloody fantastic idea. True incentive.

I doubt City will start charging any time soon. Not like you need to make money like everyone else any more

We'll need all the income we can get in 2014. = p

 

[Arnie]

Really?! That's a bloody fantastic idea. True incentive.

It really is, I got to the United and Everton games last season through it and I plan to do the same again this season. Worth the £30 alone to me, and then you've got all the top LFCtv stuff on top.

 

[PaulLFC]

Unfortunately I think they've got rid of the eSeason ballot this season and given all the tickets to the members sale. I think so anyway.

Got my membership and looking forward to getting the tickets next week, I can't afford too many right now until I get a job to pay for them, but going to try and get to as many as I can afford.

The one game that confuses me though is the United game. In the timeline for member sales next week, it says it goes on previous attendance to games last season. I'd always assumed it was this way for the Category A games, but then above that it says "available to ALL members". That's the line I don't get - surely it's only available to members who have the required attendance on their cards?

That would rule me out for this season, as being at uni last year I just bought tickets as and when I was home and could afford them, and didn't get a membership. Hopefully I'll be in with a chance of a ticket next season though.

 

[Wes]

In other news, Villa have stepped up there interest in Alan Hutton according to SSN.

Wouldn't mind this at all. Fallen down the pecking order at Spurs. Probably be a reasonable price and wage and hopefully will be a decent player.