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Football•Soccer•Fútbol•Fussball Thread 2010/2011 |OT2|

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GorillaJu

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Fry8 said:
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Luka no like 'Arry! You leave Luka alone!
 
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anonnumber6

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Tim the Wiz said:
Great player. Scholes and Vieira retiring in the same season: immense amount of talent and experience leaving the game.
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Agreed, during his nine years at Arsenal he was one of the best midfielders in Europe. Arsenal never really replaced him similar to how we have never found a replacement for Keane.

Kermit The Dog said:
If I know Giggs, he was probably contemplating fucking Viera right then and there.
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I'll admit that made me laugh. Well done.
 
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Kozak

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Facism said:
I mean, what gain was their for besiktas to fix games against themselves? They suffered so many dodgy ref calls, cards and penalties last season it looked like someone was out to get them.
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Its ridiculous to think that the Turkish cup final might have been rigged..

Especially after those penalties...
 
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Ushojax

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xintin said:
sounds like Modric has handed in his transfer request. Spurs are basically just waiting for the right number at this point, right?
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Not at all. The position is that he is not for sale. Selling him would compromise our standing as a potential CL club and invite bids on all our top players. He is 14 months into a 5 year contract. The player is going nowhere, and if he doesn't accept that he will be on the bench or in the stands until he does. The chairman, the manager, and the club captain have all said the club's stance is final. Chelsea are wasting their time with these laughable bids. If they were to offer an absolutely massive fee, say 45+, perhaps they would look at it, but Chelsea won't. They've tried their usual tapping up tactics and it didn't work, they should move on to other targets. I read in the Times that they are after Jenas, so perhaps you can take him instead.
 
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Dark Machine

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Labadal said:
I hope Higuain to Liverpool rumour becomes reality. Would be a great asset to the squad.
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I seriously doubt it'll happen, Benzema is more likely, Mou loves Higuain.

"No like play with tall circus man."

I fucking LOL'D so much. Why so much hatin' on Crouchinho Luka? :D
 
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Noirulus

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Labadal said:
I hope Higuain to Liverpool rumour becomes reality. Would be a great asset to the squad.
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No way we're getting rid of Higuain. He's still our best striker, he's just a bit out of form due to recovering from his injury.
 
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bonesmccoy

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Ushojax said:
Not at all. The position is that he is not for sale. Selling him would compromise our standing as a potential CL club and invite bids on all our top players. He is 14 months into a 5 year contract. The player is going nowhere, and if he doesn't accept that he will be on the bench or in the stands until he does. The chairman, the manager, and the club captain have all said the club's stance is final. Chelsea are wasting their time with these laughable bids. If they were to offer an absolutely massive fee, say 45+, perhaps they would look at it, but Chelsea won't. They've tried their usual tapping up tactics and it didn't work, they should move on to other targets. I read in the Times that they are after Jenas, so perhaps you can take him instead.
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A lot of us said the same thing about Torres too, and look how that played out. Now that the transfer request has been submitted, there is you'd think little chance of rebuilding bridges. And as for his contract, who knows what kind of bona fides were agreed up between him and the club so that he'd sign his contract.

Re Jenas, it was the Cleveland Chelseas, of the MLS, who were chasing him.
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
bonesmccoy said:
A lot of us said the same thing about Torres too, and look how that played out. Now that the transfer request has been submitted, there is you'd think little chance of rebuilding bridges. And as for his contract, who knows what kind of bona fides were agreed up between him and the club so that he'd sign his contract.
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We'll just have to see. All I know is that the tone coming out of Spurs is much more hard-line compared to the tone coming out of Liverpool when Torres was angling for a move, and even then it was an completely insane, desperate transfer fee that forced them to accept.

Obviously there was nothing agreed between THFC and Modric in his contract otherwise we would be in breach of it. Had Abramovic made a serious opening bid for, according to Fergie, the best player in the PL last season, he may have got somewhere, but it's over now. We own his registration and we will not give it to Chelsea.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Marsipolami said:
I hope Man Utd's signing of Sneijder goes through. It'll be Milan's best signing - much like the signing of Benitez last year.

EDIT: Oh, and Allegri spoke positively about Montolivo in his last press conference and apparently Braida is talking with Pastore's agent. If we end up with Montolivo only I'll be sad, he's not at all what it takes for Milan to climb back up to the top again. Pastore AND Montolivo? That'd be great since Montolivo'd be a great back-up player.
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edit oh wait you support Milan.

Pastore declared his intention to join Milan I think, you guys should just go for him already I don't think anyone except Malaga will for some reason.

I seriously doubt it'll happen, Benzema is more likely, Mou loves Higuain.
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I think he dislikes both of them :p Not as efficient as he'd like. Right MPW ?
 
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Kermit The Dog

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Ushojax said:
Not at all. The position is that he is not for sale. Selling him would compromise our standing as a potential CL club and invite bids on all our top players. He is 14 months into a 5 year contract. The player is going nowhere, and if he doesn't accept that he will be on the bench or in the stands until he does. The chairman, the manager, and the club captain have all said the club's stance is final. Chelsea are wasting their time with these laughable bids. If they were to offer an absolutely massive fee, say 45+, perhaps they would look at it, but Chelsea won't. They've tried their usual tapping up tactics and it didn't work, they should move on to other targets. I read in the Times that they are after Jenas, so perhaps you can take him instead.
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Yeah, I think you're gripping tight with that line of thought.
 
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Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
Kermit The Dog said:
Yeah, I think you're gripping tight with that line of thought.
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All I can go on is what the club, the chairman, the manager and the captain have said. Of course they can change their minds but that is the position right now. Right now they will not enter into negotiations with any club over a transfer.
 
Joel Was Right

Joel Was Right

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dc89 said:
Great to keep Vieira on at City in his new role.
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He should get a life. Players that do this disappoint me. If I had his money, I would travel and do community work in impoverished societies. All these guys know from a young age is training and playing football on a pitch to the extent that when they retire, they come straight back to the clubs because they don't know anything else. It's almost pathetic. If I could retire at 35 and be a millionaire, the last place i'd be is where I've been for the last 20 years
 
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Wilbur

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Hey guys, long time lurker and Man United fan from London (CARDINAL SIN?!). Enjoyed what I've read for a while so thought I'd chip in in time for the new season!

Also, that Modric 'transfer request' is the funniest thing I've ever seen.
 
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Labadal

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Meus Renaissance said:
He should get a life. Players that do this disappoint me. If I had his money, I would travel and do community work in impoverished societies. All these guys know from a young age is training and playing football on a pitch to the extent that when they retire, they come straight back to the clubs because they don't know anything else. It's almost pathetic. If I could retire at 35 and be a millionaire, the last place i'd be is where I've been for the last 20 years
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I disagree with you that it is pathetic. He was one of the best, and younger players could learn a lot from him.
 
Joel Was Right

Joel Was Right

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Labadal said:
I disagree with you that it is pathetic. He was one of the best, and younger players could learn a lot from him.
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Young players at City have a wealth of talent, literally, at their training grounds. One player isn't going to inject some magic spices into their mindset to all of a sudden evolve them into legends. The only thing he - and other players - can and will say to the younger ones is to 'train hard, keep focused and live a responsible lifestyle'; the cliche statement any successful figure in society spouts after collecting their pay cheque to say the obvious.

Instead, these players should turn to the likes of Fabrice Muamba. "He begins an Open University degree in maths and data studies. His ambition is to earn a doctorate and be referred to as 'Dr Muamba'. "
 
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Gareth Bale

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bonesmccoy said:
A lot of us said the same thing about Torres too, and look how that played out. Now that the transfer request has been submitted, there is you'd think little chance of rebuilding bridges. And as for his contract, who knows what kind of bona fides were agreed up between him and the club so that he'd sign his contract.

Re Jenas, it was the Cleveland Chelseas, of the MLS, who were chasing him.
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This isn't the Torres situation. Torres' transfer request was a statement of intent to leave the club. Modric has made already that statement, and a piece of paper that was most likely submitted by his agent, as he was on a plane to South Africa, should have little effect on the clubs stance. This was said by Redknapp in advance of him doing so.

This is the one and only time I will chip in the Modric situation. There's way too much bias and misinformation.

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Wilbur

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With regards to Modric, before this whole saga I would have killed to have him; barring Vidic and Kompany, was the player of the season. Having said that, the fact that he's either been influenced so much by his agent and/or is a money-grabbing disloyal buffoon has put me off slightly. Perhaps if he joined United though, there'd be no need to want a move away. Shame London is such a draw. I dont even like it that much, the zoo's severely underpopulated.
 
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Labadal

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Meus Renaissance said:
Young players at City have a wealth of talent, literally, at their training grounds. One player isn't going to inject some magic spices into their mindset to all of a sudden evolve them into legends. The only thing he - and other players - can and will say to the younger ones is to 'train hard, keep focused and live a responsible lifestyle'; the cliche statement any successful figure in society spouts after collecting their pay cheque to say the obvious.

Instead, these players should turn to the likes of Fabrice Muamba. "He begins an Open University degree in maths and data studies. His ambition is to earn a doctorate and be referred to as 'Dr Muamba'. "
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Not everyone has the same interests. Only because Muamba does it, doesn't mean everyone else has to. Maybe Vieira wants to become a coach in the future, maybe he loves football, he has the opportunity to work with the things he likes. How is this wrong?
 
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Kozak

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WrikaWrek said:
Maybe Tottenham should just realize they aren't worth shit, and players with great potential futures don't want to play for them.
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Why would anyone want the EPL to turn into La Liga?
 
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Kozak

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Alan Pardew is really angry that Mevlut Erding turned down Newcastle 0_o

It would of been better for Mevlut to join Newcastle as I honestly believe Premier League is the best league but Pardew should understand Mevlut can guarantee himself starting 11 football every week as long as he keeps his form up.

Plus PSG are in champ league.
 
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Yurt

il capo silenzioso
Who's Patrick Vieira? I don't know any living player with that name.

My condolences Liverpool
his agent Jorn Bonnesen told Onside.dk: “No, Christian Poulsen is not on his way to FC Copenhagen and he has not spoken to them.

“Christian Poulsen's future lies at Liverpool.”
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GQman2121

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WrikaWrek said:
Maybe Tottenham should just realize they aren't worth shit, and players with great potential futures don't want to play for them.
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I strongly disagree with the notion that they're a shit side. Next to Chelsea success, I want as many competitive teams in the league as possible. However, I do think they should accept any reasonable offer we make (which admittedly has yet to happen) and part ways with the player.
 
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Arnie

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WrikaWrek said:
Maybe Tottenham should just realize they aren't worth shit, and players with great potential futures don't want to play for them.
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This is absolutely ridiculous. Tottenham qualified for the Champions League and managed to get to the Quarter Finals, they are hardly worthless. They beat both Milan clubs too. They also have a chairman who, despite perhaps questionable methods, is adamant that his best players won't be sold to clubs looking to simply use the prestige card. Tottenham have a solid manager, a decent stadium and a deep squad of quality players.

I understand half your point, for a top player Chelsea is an enticing prospect, they're nearly always challenging for top honours at the end of the season, but to say Tottenham are worthless is a stupid comment, it shows absolute naivety. If everyone in Football thought like you then football would be half the sport it is. Luckily there are players, managers, coaches and fans who believe in projects and progress.
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A lot of us said the same thing about Torres too, and look how that played out.
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I get what you mean but the two are rather different. Firstly Chelsea offered silly money for Torres. If Chelsea offered £50 million for Modric then I'm sure Levy's stance on the matter would change, as did ours. Especially considering Modric has been consistently brilliant for the last two seasons whilst Torres was mired by injury and then poor form.

Secondly we were on the cusp of a new era, a new Liverpool. We had new owners looking to make serious statements of intent and progress at the club, as well as a manager looking to transform the playing squad in a short space of time and build a team around the idea of 'commitment to the cause". Dalglish's entire strategy during the last six months focused on the idea that Liverpool wasn't about any individuals (perhaps to take the spotlight off himself, and singular players) and playing for the shirt. That simply could not include a player who'd publicly requested to leave and abstain from such a strategy. Fair enough, bye bye Fernando, hello £50 million pounds.

Whilst the two look similar on the surface there were very different circumstances underneath. Spurs aren't at the start of a transformative process like we were, they're slap, bang in the middle of it. Selling Modric is the difference between fighting for the CL again next season or resigning to the fact that you'll be competing in the Europa League for the next five years.

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My condolences Liverpool
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He either moves on or rots in the reserves. /Levy style
 
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Kermit The Dog

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Meus Renaissance said:
He should get a life. Players that do this disappoint me. If I had his money, I would travel and do community work in impoverished societies. All these guys know from a young age is training and playing football on a pitch to the extent that when they retire, they come straight back to the clubs because they don't know anything else. It's almost pathetic. If I could retire at 35 and be a millionaire, the last place i'd be is where I've been for the last 20 years
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Sigh.
 
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Dark Machine

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Arnie said:
He either moves on or rots in the reserves. /Levy style
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Damn right. Poulson should read the writing on the wall and take a pay cut to play out his final years and MAYBE retain his Denmark national team place at a club that actually wants him. He's not good enough for the Premier League and won't play many (if any) games barring a massive injury crisis.
 
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dschalter

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Wilbury said:
With regards to Modric, before this whole saga I would have killed to have him; barring Vidic and Kompany, was the player of the season. Having said that, the fact that he's either been influenced so much by his agent and/or is a money-grabbing disloyal buffoon has put me off slightly. Perhaps if he joined United though, there'd be no need to want a move away. Shame London is such a draw. I dont even like it that much, the zoo's severely underpopulated.
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the just about player of the season shouldn't be on 40k p/w. should be much much more.
 
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anonnumber6

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kharma45 said:
http://twitter.com/#!/bensmith_Times/status/91534465393889281 maintains United are still interested.

I'm hoping we are in for him still, there has been too much coverage for us not to have been, right? :\
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Usually when there has been months of speculation linking a player to a club there has at the very least been some sort of enquiry about the availability of the player. I still think that unless Sneijder is willing to take a paycut he won't be coming here.
 
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omgkitty

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Kozak said:
Plus PSG are in champ league.
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Europa League.

Plasma said:
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-my-team-is-not-defensively-weak

We're not going to sign any defenders are we ....
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I would really like to know who those 1 or 2 more signings Wenger hinted at are going to be. I would honestly have to agree with his statement on us not being defensively weak, but there are plenty of crappy defenses out there who can defend set pieces. I would still like to strengthen our defense as we cant seem to make it a month before we lose at least one guaranteed starter every season.
 
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