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Football 2014/15 |OT14| The one where Europa&Champions League are sensationally back
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LabouredSubterfuge
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The_Hitcher89
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Also Kompany vs Chelsea a few weeks ago. Didn't stretch his feet in fear to score an OG, and Remy scored.
Also,
Eugh
Genuinely the first time I thought it would happen. It felt like destiny. It felt like we were riding an unstoppable train. Then The Great Slip of 2014 happened, and we fell apart spectacularly. What a time.
Seriously feels like the hangover from that has been killing us until B-Rod changed our formation.
Herrera: 13 games, 4 goals and 3 assists
Pjanic: 27 games, 3 goals and 5 assists
That's in PL though, where I heard everybody runs like crazy. You just pass the ball forward in the general direction of your strikers, someone's gonna make that run. In Serie A it's much more complicated, you have to yell at people to make them move.
Do you think you're more likely to finish 4th or win the Europa League? Which will Liverpool prioritise?
Yes Killer, happy birthday!Just turned 22.
Back is hurting.
FF, now I know how it feels to be old
Herrera: 13 games, 4 goals and 3 assists
Pjanic: 27 games, 3 goals and 5 assists
a goal on Yeovil, Preston, Cambridge U....your boy is crap yo. And that's precisely why Pjanic starts more
When Pjanic is on the pitch you can feel his energetic aura on the attacking half.
The_Hitcher89
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Really don't have a clue.
We're good enough to win the EL undoubtedly. We're close enough to finish top 4 as well. Think we'll just have to take each game as it comes, and see who's most fit to play.
Prioritise EL, get knocked out and finish 7th. Terrible.
Prioritise league, finish 5th and get knocked out. Not good enough.
Prioritise neither, team gets exhausted, finish 7th and get knocked out. Horrendous.
Whatever we do has scope to go horribly wrong if we put all the eggs in one basket, or if we put them in neither. Potentially 3 more FA Cup games to fit in as well, and we're way too far into that to put out any kind of weakened team imo.
Fuck it. Balls out for all 3. This is why we bought those players in the summer, to help when the games start coming thick and fast, and players start getting tired. Whether the likes of Enrique, Johnson, Lovren, Lambert are good enough is another question (they're not), but we'll just have to trust them to not fuck things up for us when needed.
Doesn't matter anyway unless Sturridge can stay fit somehow, our entire season is pretty much reliant on him being available and in form, and that's been true throughout his absence as well. Need Lucas back sharpish as well. I worry badly about our next 2 league fixtures without him. Allen's been okay the last 2 matches, but Southampton and City are a different proposition in midfield.
Baconsaurus Rex
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Thanks!
It's definitely an interesting situation,would feel very risky banking on a knockout competition. Worked for us in 2012 though. Completely different from Everton. They may as well go all out for EL, but maybe they're still slightly worried about relegation.
You reckon we still need a keeper? I think Migs might be alright now. Definitely need a DM and at least one striker though.
Watch Brendan buy an attacking midfielder.
I reckon you do, even if it's only as a backup. If Mig gets injured or something I have no faith whatsoever in Jones.
The_Hitcher89
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I'm more than happy to keep Mig if he carries on like this. We definitely need someone better than Jones to take over if Mignolet's form dips again, or he gets injured.
edit: Fuck you CCS, you stole my post
Right, I agree with that. But when I think of reserve keepers, I think of tiny transfer fees and wages, so I don't think it affects the rest of the transfers or anything.
Yeah that's a fair point. I wonder how much Rodgers is likely to have available to spend in the summer.
The_Hitcher89
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Yeah, should be easy enough to replace Jones without any protracted contract talks and shit like that. Gets more complicated if we look to bring in someone new for the first 11.
Can't decide if I want us to go for Song. Definitely want us to if Lucas leaves.
Vivalaraza
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Song is terrible defensively so if you want him to defend...no.
The_Hitcher89
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That's the golden question innit. I was sure we'd spend significantly in January, but nothing happened.
A lot of it must come down to how much FSG trust Rodgers and the committee to spend wisely. Hopefully the Ascension of Emre (and Markovic, Lallana, Moreno, and belatedly Sakho and Mignolet) will give him some credit there.
Whatever happens, we can't shake up the squad so much again, as we already saw like 2 months ago how badly it can effect the team as you try and fit 4+ new signings into the team at once.
Would rather just blow it all on a Pjanic buy
Song has been fine defensively overall for West Ham imo (didn't rate it at Arsenal), but I could easily see him becoming shite in that department again.
That's the golden question innit. I was sure we'd spend significantly in January, but nothing happened.
A lot of it must come down to how much FSG trust Rodgers and the committee to spend wisely. Hopefully the Ascension of Emre (and Markovic, Lallana, Moreno, and belatedly Sakho and Mignolet) will give him some credit there.
Whatever happens, we can't shake up the squad so much again, as we already saw like 2 months ago how badly it can effect the team as you try and fit 4+ new signings into the team at once.
Would rather just blow it all on a Pjanic buy
Song has been fine defensively overall for West Ham imo (didn't rate it at Arsenal), but I could easily see him becoming shite in that department again.
U forgot about Balotelli there
Aye
when he was linked to United in summer (probably teenagers posing at ITKunts in fairness) always baffled me
nae disrespect to West Ham but that is his level.
Bloke doesn't have any positional discipline whatsoever
That's the golden question innit. I was sure we'd spend significantly in January, but nothing happened.
A lot of it must come down to how much FSG trust Rodgers and the committee to spend wisely. Hopefully the Ascension of Emre (and Markovic, Lallana, Moreno, and belatedly Sakho and Mignolet) will give him some credit there.
Whatever happens, we can't shake up the squad so much again, as we already saw like 2 months ago how badly it can effect the team as you try and fit 4+ new signings into the team at once.
Would rather just blow it all on a Pjanic buy
To be honest I think Liverpool have most of the makings of a strong team at the moment. They just need a couple more players in the middle, and cover for Strurridge for the half of the season when he's crocked and you'll be looking pretty good.
Vivalaraza
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No chance. He has good games, sure. But then did you see him against us? We were awful and he made at least 5/6 simple errors letting our players through. He think he's better than he is which is always costing him and eventually ends up costing his team.
That's the golden question innit. I was sure we'd spend significantly in January, but nothing happened.
A lot of it must come down to how much FSG trust Rodgers and the committee to spend wisely. Hopefully the Ascension of Emre (and Markovic, Lallana, Moreno, and belatedly Sakho and Mignolet) will give him some credit there.
Whatever happens, we can't shake up the squad so much again, as we already saw like 2 months ago how badly it can effect the team as you try and fit 4+ new signings into the team at once.
Would rather just blow it all on a Pjanic buy
Song has been fine defensively overall for West Ham imo (didn't rate it at Arsenal), but I could easily see him becoming shite in that department again.
He was fucking terrible against us. Positionally, playing risky passes in dangerous positions that didn't come off very often, offered no support whatsoever defensively.
The_Hitcher89
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Given up on Lambert, Balotelli and Lovren are on the edge. The pair of them have enough ability imo to be successes at Liverpool, but they'll be lucky if we don't cash in on them before they show it.
Attracting good bids for them will be difficult though if we want to sell them. Remember when SerieA was a yardstick for good strikers? If you could make it there, you could make it anywhere.
Surely that role has Can's name all over it? He'd be perfect. Should be Lucas in there for now, with Can as a kind of utility midfielder/defender in the meantime.
The_Hitcher89
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Hmm. He had a weird one against us as well. Was positionally fine, made a few nice interceptions and tackles, but made 3 or 4 incredibly sloppy passes that the likes of Mascherano, Lucas, Fernandinho and Matic just don't make
(I'm not suggesting that Lucas belongs in that company necessarily, but he keeps it similarly simple and safe when passing close to our own third)
That's the golden question innit. I was sure we'd spend significantly in January, but nothing happened.
A lot of it must come down to how much FSG trust Rodgers and the committee to spend wisely. Hopefully the Ascension of Emre (and Markovic, Lallana, Moreno, and belatedly Sakho and Mignolet) will give him some credit there.
Whatever happens, we can't shake up the squad so much again, as we already saw like 2 months ago how badly it can effect the team as you try and fit 4+ new signings into the team at once.
Would rather just blow it all on a Pjanic buy
Song has been fine defensively overall for West Ham imo (didn't rate it at Arsenal), but I could easily see him becoming shite in that department again.
Maybe Liverpool are in the same situation as United whereas they are waiting until summer as they are after a higher class of player that are much easier to pull off then.
You don't need wholesale changes do you? You seem to have a good core of players to build on.
The_Hitcher89
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Fuck's sake, I keep forgetting that Can is suited for that role. If we can get a good centreback to replace him (Lovren, ideally ¬¬), he could be a boss DM. He's a box to box centreback, ffs
Fuck's sake, I keep forgetting that Can is suited for that role. If we can get a good centreback to replace him (Lovren, ideally ¬¬), he could be a boss DM. He's a box to box centreback, ffs
I hope Lovren improves, but looking at his history it seems more likely he had a fluke good season last year due to the team around him.
Fernandinho's been pretty sloppy too recently.
Coldnoodle
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Can can centreback my box.
FortuneFaded
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I always get left out.
FootballFan
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Song.
Defending.
I can't breathe.
(he's good at passing though)
Defending.
I can't breathe.
(he's good at passing though)
LabouredSubterfuge
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You nasty thing.
The_Hitcher89
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Not in the first 11, no. Especially if we plan to use 3-4-2-1 indefinitely (B-Rod's favourite word)
Not happy with Enrique being second choice leftback, Lovren/Johnson/Toure being second choice CB (which also prevents Can being played at DM), Jones being second choice keeper.
The biggest problem is obviously up front. With Sturridge's injury problems, its vital that someone can step up, and they just can't. Sterling does an admirable job replacing his style of play to an extent, but he doesn't have the ruthlessness we need from our lone striker.
We have a lot players though who I am happy to have in the team any week, especially in this formation and form. Its a slow process though, trying to fill the squad with those players and getting rid of the Borinis. Especially when they refuse to fucking leave ¬¬
If Liverpool are to persist with their formation, then
Mig
Can/CB - Skrtel - Sakho
Ibe/Markovic - Henderson - Can/Lucas - Moreno
Coutinho/Lallana - Sterling
Sturridge
is a good team, make no mistake. I think they'd certainly need a fantastic centre back (because Sakho isn't yet, and I don't think Skrtel is either), and arguably a keeper, but besides from that it's a really balanced, strong first team with a few good alternatives too. Don't think they need as much work as you think, Hitch.
First choice CB, second choice CF (assuming Balo isn't resuscitated), better CM cover than Allen.
Mig
Can/CB - Skrtel - Sakho
Ibe/Markovic - Henderson - Can/Lucas - Moreno
Coutinho/Lallana - Sterling
Sturridge
is a good team, make no mistake. I think they'd certainly need a fantastic centre back (because Sakho isn't yet, and I don't think Skrtel is either), and arguably a keeper, but besides from that it's a really balanced, strong first team with a few good alternatives too. Don't think they need as much work as you think, Hitch.
First choice CB, second choice CF (assuming Balo isn't resuscitated), better CM cover than Allen.
The_Hitcher89
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Borini needs to be bombed out but he clings on.
As I said, I'm quite happy with the first 11. Ibe and Lallana are the only squad players who I have no reservations about though
Not sure what's going on with Origi and Ilori, maybe one of them can have a good impact next season.
Borini needs to be bombed out but he clings on.
As I said, I'm quite happy with the first 11. Ibe and Lallana are the only squad players who I have no reservations about though
Not sure what's going on with Origi and Ilori, maybe one of them can have a good impact next season.
Forgot about both of them. Luckily (unluckily for everyone who hates your fucking club), you'll be avoiding the departure of someone so key to your play and you probably won't be buying three hundred players again.
Think you give Kolo a bit of an unfair rap; as a reserve centre back I haven't seen him do much wrong in a Pool shirt. Wisdom to come back and all.
i said much wrong m8
Yeah look as someone who wished Song left us long before he did, I can tell you Hitcher you dont want him in your team week in week out, as a back option yeah he's good but he's not a consistent performer at the top level. Thing is I dont even think it's lack of ability, it's pure concentration with that guy.
Cavani is so good isnt it he, think someone said yday truly one of the worst things him being played out wide. I think Lewa is better than Cavani (wouldnt blame anyone for thinking different though). As much as I applaud Giroud for his improvement for Arsenal to really transcend we still need an upgrade, I hope Wenger realizes this.
@Blaburn your posts last night were sensational lol, but you seem like you get football so why so upset? You'll take the at the Allianz no problem and Pep wont be so stupid when you get a team of stature.
Cavani is so good isnt it he, think someone said yday truly one of the worst things him being played out wide. I think Lewa is better than Cavani (wouldnt blame anyone for thinking different though). As much as I applaud Giroud for his improvement for Arsenal to really transcend we still need an upgrade, I hope Wenger realizes this.
@Blaburn your posts last night were sensational lol, but you seem like you get football so why so upset? You'll take the at the Allianz no problem and Pep wont be so stupid when you get a team of stature.
The_Hitcher89
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Forgot about Widsom. Wouldn't be surprised if we send Ilori out again and take Wisdom back for CB depth
Sterling could leave if he's a cunt
I'm fine with Toure replacing Skrtel or Sakho for the odd game but Can is the one we're looking to remove from CB, and that probably won't happen til we get a centreback who's better on the ball than Toure/Lovren, and not as likely to do something fucking stupid like Johnson is.
I'd hate for the Gallagher brothers to be icons of my club to the extent they are for City. Watching this PL Years thing on Sky, camera lingers on Liam for like 10 seconds. He has fuck all to do with football. Would rather see that cunt Mike Summerbee's reaction
Is it bellendish or human nature to abide by Suarez after the racism charge, when I'd have wanted him out if he was merely a decent player like Lallana or someone?
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