Probably.
I didn't care, not my cup of tea, but (obviously) everybody here talked about it.
The prduction value should be good (on par with UK shows I guess since it's produced by Sky Italia)
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Probably.
I didn't care, not my cup of tea, but (obviously) everybody here talked about it.
The prduction value should be good (on par with UK shows I guess since it's produced by Sky Italia)
Coldnoodle
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I'm Mauritian :O
KidA Seven
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Moyes wasn't sacked in February. Try comparing their records in April. With Moyes, United got worse in the 2nd half of the season.
There's a lot of things that LVG has done that have frustrated me. He has been far from perfect. I'll wait to see how United improve in the coming months. With Moyes I saw no reason why he should be trusted to steady the ship. That's all there is to it.
Don't really care if it is true to be honest, I'm not the type that finds the long ball inherently bad.
I also think we're third in overall passing stats, so it's a bit of a misnomer.
flabberghastly
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I don't dislike Liverpool at all, and largely for the same reason. I've had a special place in my heart for Gerrard ever since that day. I'd take him as a broken, crippled, slipping dotard at Napoli when he's had enough of America.I can't hate Liverpool.
They gave me one of the most fun days in my school days.
I can't even state how I laughed at this in 2005.
Don't take a man's chips away m8
Said this in Whatsapp last night, LVG has lost me a fair amount since Aug, but I still feel far more secure than with Moyseh. Simple as that really. Given the choice between the two, LVG any day.
Would you trust Moyes with 150 million? I like him just fine, and in fact most United fans badly wanted him to do well, so much in fact we refused to see the signs. Under Moyes there wasn't really any sings that things would get better.
All the more impressive if you ask me
This is shocking
Coldnoodle
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I agree. He's the type of man that could survive just on a hundred dollars per month while eating a bunch of mangos.
He not like the others who shows a lack of respect to the world.
moyes is liked by the british press because he was one of the best managers in england for like ten years. not the best or the second best, but one of the best.
which is still really quite good. like talking about him being a midtable manager is interesting in the context of whether he should be manager of a club that wants to be top three in the world. but in the context of whether he's good at his job, he's absolutely the best midtable manager out there. there's a lot of managers in england, people like redknapp, pulis, pardew, allardyce, hodgson etc never were as good as him over that period. if it's so fucking easy just to grind and hoof then why was his everton so much better than the other midtable teams. why can't they repeat what he did consistently over that period.
yeah. it was crazy. the way he had the team that just lost to city playing was amazing. what a bad team that was. no rvp just valencia crossing to rooney, young cutting inside and old man scholes pinging passes after cleverly and anderson storming teams broke down.
i just don't like the narrative that 'moyes inherited a title winning team'. i don't consider it a fair reflection of what he had to use.
Well, not really.
You're third in overall passing and much has been made about it (on here, at least) about how negative it's been. Long balls are not inherently bad, you're right, but the stats build a picture of a manager who's playing poor, hoofball football.
Compare that with Moyes who had history rewrote post-Everton to that effect as you very well pointed out
everthustodeadbeats
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Hoof it down the wing, and then hoof it in the box 81 or 82 times. Draw against the bottom of the table. Football genius David Moyes.
The_Hitcher89
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:lol
Why have I acted like a massive, massive cunt for the last 9 months? He took my chips away.
I don't know why I go on bluemoon. Bunch of knobends sniping at eachother, and underrating anyone who doesn't play for City.
Thanks
Willkiller
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Only a preview though innit?
KidA Seven
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People forget that it wasn't just the points/position in the table that made us lose faith. It was the lack of improvement on the pitch, bad man management, no history at winning things, and rumors of his bad training that wouldn't get the best from technical players. He simply could not be trusted to lead United in the future.
LVG has history of working at a big club and winning trophies. It sucks that Moyes doesn't have that to fall back on, but that's part of a manager's credentials. LVG's training sessions have the players working on the ball more than Moyes did which also makes me trust him more. He's a better personality to deal with big egos as well.
LVG has to show us that United will improve under him.The above leads me to believe he can, but it's obviously not a guarantee. If United don't improve in the coming months, a lot of us will completely lose faith in him.
idk its on this annie mac show from last week, very rarely do full tracks get played on it tho.
Honey Bunny
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Well, well worth it. Best tv series of last year for me.
KidA Seven
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When we qualified for EL and Berlusconi shamelessly forced us to accept a part of Milan's debt in an attempt to win the EL spot from us UEFA was telling Parma that it may have to play in Modena's stadium because some shit was wrong with Stadio Ennio Tardini.
History repeats. It's CRAZY to think that the best Serie B team, getting closer and closer to Serie A is Carpi.
Carpi is a small city near Modena.
Carpi will probably replace Parma next year.
Maybe in UK, but outside his failure at RM was very bad for his reputation. Specially when Ancelotti managed to win the CL in his first season, in comparison
This is Italy. They actually want Taraabt from QPR.
The_Hitcher89
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Make him operate on a tight budget, buy into the football he wants to play as a fanbase and squad, accept that he'll get the best out of the players who aren't necessarily the best players in the team*.
He was perfect for Everton, and they were perfect for him imo. And I think he'll do well at Sociedad if the fans accept his style of play, which to be frank was all over the place at Everton, but bizarrely one-note at Man Utd.
I'm not sure if he simply couldn't handle the pressure at Man Utd, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was just overwhelmed by the expectation and went into his shell as Rodgers did earlier in the season, when the situation called for him to start making big changes.
He's big, he's strong, he's quick.
*similar point to the one KidA just made. Aside from Januzaj, whose best form has come under Moyes tbf.
Destro is Milan's number 9.
Agazzi is Milan's number 1.
Honda is Milan's number 10.
Menez is Milan's number 7.
Do I need to go on.
everthustodeadbeats
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He never beat a top side on the road. His replacement did just that, by beating him. I don't rate any of the managers you listed as good. All awful retreads. Now freaking Tim Sherwood is going to get a PL job. It's revolting.
I think most people know that Madrid can be incredibly toxic and he was competing against an absolutely sublime Barcelona and Bayern Munich.
Last year, for example, showed the decline of their main rivals.
No to undersell Ancelotti's achievement of course, but the landscape was different.
Mourinho himself can be incredibly toxic. They are a perfect fit.
Madrid were terrible before Mourinho arrived. More than not winning the CL, what tarnished his reputation at Madrid was his constant cuntish antics. And dropping Casillas lol.
Moyes and Pardew are good managers. Dumb to put them in the same sentence as Redknapp. Pretty sure they're both better than Hodgson too, though that might be a bit more debatable.
Moyes and Pardew are good managers. Dumb to put them in the same sentence as Redknapp. Pretty sure they're both better than Hodgson too, though that might be a bit more debatable.
Oh Casillas has destroyed his reputation too.
But dropping Casillas and losing the team were connected, no? Wasn't Casillas the one constantly leaking shit to the press? The whole Spanish/Portuguese split between the players? etc.
Hodgson would be perfect for England if we stopped pretending we're a big nation
Should sit back and play deep but the media wouldn't like it so instead we're stuck in a halfway house with a defensive coach who is encouraged to play attacking football with a bunch of players not particularly suited to either.
Pardew certainly is a better coach and an underrated tactician who unfortunately is a fucking hilarious cunt which muddies opinion of him. It's pretty disappointing when he's one of the top English coaches, but there we are.
everthustodeadbeats
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Moronho parked two buses during the Gerrard slip game when there was almost no motivation to do so other than to deny Liverpool the title that Chelsea weren't in competition for(at the time). Seemed rather unsporting to me, but they got the win.
The eye poke showed me what a cunt that man is. Haven't liked him since. Good manager, but he almost always plays with the 1st or 2nd richest squads in his leagues. 1st or 2nd richest squads generally win. Would like to see what he could do for a World Cup squad when he tires of club football.
The eye poke showed me what a cunt that man is. Haven't liked him since. Good manager, but he almost always plays with the 1st or 2nd richest squads in his leagues. 1st or 2nd richest squads generally win. Would like to see what he could do for a World Cup squad when he tires of club football.
Steverulez
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48 hour codes are available but I'm not entirely sure where to get one from.
How was it unsporting? We had a CL game 3 days after which was more important, we played a weakened team and Jose still wanted to try and get something out of it. Liverpool were in great form (I think?) and there is certainly a rivalry between the two teams, we weren't going to hand it to them on a plate and we never will, we played to our strength with secret agent Stevie in tow, nothing unsporting about it.
This is for you, Ricky.
Assolutamente sensazionale.
No vabbè dai.
He was playing a big away match against an incredibly in form team.
Anything else would have been throwing the match.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Days after a gruelling tie with Athleticho Madrid too.
The_Hitcher89
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Unsporting :lol
He did what made a good result most likely, and we came up horribly short against it
He did what made a good result most likely, and we came up horribly short against it
Defending is easy.
jts
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That day, football died a little bit.
You don't understand because your hatred for Liverpool blinds you.
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