In the end I don't think Hodgson is a thoroughly stupid man. Of course, the likes of Johnson and Davis might as well not exist to him, given they don't play for big clubs, but still when faced with a choice between several big club players there is just no way I can see him opting for Townsend over Ox or Cleverly over Henderson.
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In the end I don't think Hodgson is a thoroughly stupid man. Of course, the likes of Johnson and Davis might as well not exist to him, given they don't play for big clubs, but still when faced with a choice between several big club players there is just no way I can see him opting for Townsend over Ox or Cleverly over Henderson.
Jones ahead of Jagielka, Killer? Think Jagielka is having a great season and Jones is letting important years where he should be learning and gaining experience at the back go to waste waffling on in midfield.
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It's hilarious how many times I've been called an "old cunt" on FIFA because my PSN tag has 73 at the end of it. This manc cunt got two players sent off for ridiculous challenges while screaming "YOU OLD GEORDIE CUNT" down his mic while I did my best Sam Allardyce impression down mine
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It's hilarious how many times I've been called an "old cunt" on FIFA because my PSN tag has 73 at the end of it. This manc cunt got two players sent off for ridiculous challenges while screaming "YOU OLD GEORDIE CUNT" down his mic while I did my best Sam Allardyce impression down mine
KidA Seven
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He's scared of the press "backlash". "y u no pick our favourite?"
FortuneFaded
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Why has he picked four keepers when we all fucking know he will play Hart in every single minute of the WC that he is fit?
Because he hasn't decided who will fill the other two slots?. So he probably wants to see their performance in training.
LabouredSubterfuge
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I sometimes wonder if Hodgson is just Moyes wearing a prosthetic mask.
Cleverley
Smalling
Defoe
Give me death.
Cleverley
Smalling
Defoe
Give me death.
Milking dat popularity. He knows he it won't last for much longer, as he's about to descend into footballing anonymity.
KidA Seven
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He's boycotting Anfield because they wouldn't let him into the directors box one time.
To be fair: He is knackered!
He have played in every game he featured in fully and wasn't even a regular at Man City.
Erm, seeing as most people didn't notice it first time around, now seems a good time to requote my predictions from earlier. I stand by it for now, seeing as Hodge hasn't quite gone off the deep yet with the WC teams yet to be chosen.
looooooool
Actually I bet Clev is an impressive little cunt in small scale training sessions.
The_Hitcher89
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Hodgson is jokes
I'd find his fetish for the mediocre a lot funnier if I didn't want England to do well, but stil.
I'd find his fetish for the mediocre a lot funnier if I didn't want England to do well, but stil.
Mandzukic is a fucking idiot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K0gVGMBVR0
(look at Alaba going like "HOLY SHIT; NOPE")
(look at Alaba going like "HOLY SHIT; NOPE")
KidA Seven
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Bla thinks you're just being soft. No criticism of Mandzugod allowed.
I wasn't even talking about Liverpool, he'll be back when we play the likes of City and Chelsea.
It's just that some clubs lower down the table never get a look in, even if the majority of said teams are English players.
Gareth Bale
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We really including Townsend with players like Cleverley, Defoe and Welbeck? He actually played well for England when he was called up.
The_Hitcher89
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So did Welbeck :s
FlutterPuffs
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2014 Welbeck is alright. He deserves to be call up (but not in the starting 11)
UCL was a anomaly. PL form has now seeped in.I feel for Kagawa.
Every time I've seen United this season they've looked so.......static.
Most likely injured, I think he should be first choice anyway.
Late, but Cleverley and Townsend have no business being anywhere near that team. Shit, what has Defoe done either. What a shit fucking squad
4-2-3-1
Team should be
Terry has been England's best CB for years. Fuck ya'll
4-2-3-1
Team should be
Code:
Hart
Baines-Terry-Cahill-Someone off the street is better than Walker
Gerrard-Henderson
Sterling Ox
Rooney
SturridgeTerry has been England's best CB for years. Fuck ya'll
Just because Slovakia are crap!
Marc
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Cleverley?
Is this some sort of sick joke?
Defoe?
Oh man, so many shit decisions in the England set up... and yet I am always shocked by them.
Why do we need 3 leftbacks? One of them being Cole who hasn't even played ffs, why not Gibbs (still injured I guess)? And you are telling me that Kyle sodding Walker has been better than Clyne, or Flanno for that matter?
How Milner is even a premier league footballer, I don't know, but an England international nailed on pick is disgusting. Adam Johnson shits on him from a great height.Can actually beat a man, pass, score, keep the ball, make intelligent runs... basically all the things you need at international level. Ugh
And tactically we still won't play with a DM, which is like not playing a goalkeeper at international level.
Of that shite I would go with:
Forster
Johnson Jones Smalling Baines
Wilshere Cahill Barkley
Ox Sturridge Sterling
Picking youth where possible, or untainted 'good' players if not. I think they would all go out and play with no fear. Would maybe swap Wilshere for Lallana, and Cahill for Gerrard/Lampard (both too slow and past it now) depending on the opponent but none of those options fill me with confidence. Its a real problem position for us at DM, we haven't really had anyone since Butt and he was probably our best player in 02. Smalling and Jones are simply because they were a great CB partnership at U21 level and its always been a good indicator of how you do as a full international. Both have been messed about with playing as RB's, midfielders and teaboy's. Also would give us some half-decent options on the bench to help win a game. Will never happen and building to the next tournament is frowned upon despite all the evidence showing its better to do it that way.
Is this some sort of sick joke?
Defoe?
Oh man, so many shit decisions in the England set up... and yet I am always shocked by them.
Why do we need 3 leftbacks? One of them being Cole who hasn't even played ffs, why not Gibbs (still injured I guess)? And you are telling me that Kyle sodding Walker has been better than Clyne, or Flanno for that matter?
How Milner is even a premier league footballer, I don't know, but an England international nailed on pick is disgusting. Adam Johnson shits on him from a great height.Can actually beat a man, pass, score, keep the ball, make intelligent runs... basically all the things you need at international level. Ugh
And tactically we still won't play with a DM, which is like not playing a goalkeeper at international level.
Of that shite I would go with:
Forster
Johnson Jones Smalling Baines
Wilshere Cahill Barkley
Ox Sturridge Sterling
Picking youth where possible, or untainted 'good' players if not. I think they would all go out and play with no fear. Would maybe swap Wilshere for Lallana, and Cahill for Gerrard/Lampard (both too slow and past it now) depending on the opponent but none of those options fill me with confidence. Its a real problem position for us at DM, we haven't really had anyone since Butt and he was probably our best player in 02. Smalling and Jones are simply because they were a great CB partnership at U21 level and its always been a good indicator of how you do as a full international. Both have been messed about with playing as RB's, midfielders and teaboy's. Also would give us some half-decent options on the bench to help win a game. Will never happen and building to the next tournament is frowned upon despite all the evidence showing its better to do it that way.
I'd go right attacking. Assuming Jag is fit for the WC
Hart
Wisdom (come at me) Cahill Jag Baines
Barkley Henderson
Sturridge Wilshere Ox
300ney
Sterling and Lallana as impact subs.
WC Champions
2014
Cahill in centre mid?
Smalling?
No Wayne
You craaaaaazy
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Also, DAT ARROW ENDING
Next week let's fucking go
Hart
Wisdom (come at me) Cahill Jag Baines
Barkley Henderson
Sturridge Wilshere Ox
300ney
Sterling and Lallana as impact subs.
WC Champions
of the group
Cahill in centre mid?
Smalling?
No Wayne
You craaaaaazy
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Also, DAT ARROW ENDING
Next week let's fucking go
Milner does his job well at City. He should be there. Delph being overlooked again is sad but not unexpected. Barry absolutely should be back in the team -- he has been excellent this season. Hart had his rough patch but other than not closing his legs for Alves, has been very good since he got back into City's team. Definitely England's #1.
On to more important news, here's the draw for the QFs and on in the UEFA Youth League.
On to more important news, here's the draw for the QFs and on in the UEFA Youth League.
@JamesPearceEcho: #LFC's 250-mile trip to Norwich City now a midday kick-off on Easter Sunday??!! That is an absolute joke by the powers that be.
@JamesPearceEcho: The first train from Lime St to Norwich on Easter Sunday will get #LFC fans to Carrow Road an hour and a half after the game has finished.
@JamesPearceEcho: The first train from Lime St to Norwich on Easter Sunday will get #LFC fans to Carrow Road an hour and a half after the game has finished.
Gareth Bale
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There were lots here praising Townsend when we played Poland. Welbeck, not so much.
that's how I remember it anyway
The_Hitcher89
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Delph isn't good enough, and the job Milner does is unnecessary and counterproductive.
Broder Salsa
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Everyone can become a DM really, so just move some defender up there. Forster over Hart doesn't seem that crazy though.
Marc
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Cahill as a DM, since we don't have any selected. Would rather Ward-Prowse or even Cattermole, better than nothing. Someone who sits and breaks up play has long been our achilles heel and stopped us dominating the midfield.
Smalling at CB, he has been awful at rightback, definitely but he is young and made a good partnership with Jones. Who for some reason I thought was fit and included in the squad. So I guess Jag's/Cahill combo it is then who look like a shite partnership to me.
No Wayne as he will bottle it again, he clearly only cares about money. With his talent he should be twice the footballer he is currently, should be in his prime scoring for fun. He has no real hunger (steady), or desire for the game when I look at him play, going through the motions a lot of the time. Fact as well is that Sturridge is a striker, and currently a better one than Rooney. He is not the same player pushed out to the wing, not when that's his starting position. Yet everyone is sticking the guy with one of the best goals per minute ratio in world football (second currently I think to Aguero) out wide?
Wilbs, pls, its a friendly... should experiment a little. I was wrong about Jones though so messes my team up anyway.
And Forster because its a friendly, so would be good to see him play and Hart has been very poor. Some players like Hart and Rooney I think would benefit from some bench warming, way too big for their boots.
I'd start Welbeck over him, but he's been in great form and the other option is Ashley Young. Rodriguez I'd consider as well.
Foster is a decent keeper, but he's not better than Hart. As average as Hart is, he's still the best English keeper.
Thats the WC team I picked by the way. Couldn't give a solitary cumshot what we do in a friendly.
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