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Football Thread 13/14 |OT15| smoking Top of the League cigars may cause Liver failure

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Jack cw

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I thumb up everything you said. While it wasn't mentioned in your comments, nor mine, the recent downfall of the Bundesliga dinos happenned at a moment when the whole football gotha started to make really big bucks and the gap between good and the best teams became appearing to all. Dortmund jumped in in time while they were the less likely to succeed among BL teams. I would have given Hertha more chances to be where Dortmund is now.

Not only Merder, Hamburger and Shitgart missed the train but they will face the dire consequences in the forthcoming years too and they suffer the disadvantage of seeing Scheisske and Zerokusen erase the little credibility their league has, damaging potential TV contracts abroad. I don't foresee the end of the bad days for any of these clubs anytime in the near future. I would be actually happy if Werder and Hamburg go down since it would mean that teams à la Augsburg currently in the 2. BL might bring fresh ideas and tactical dispositions to the 1. BL.

Haha, I like the way you call the clubs. Fitting :D
But yes, the money thing is another huge problem. Too many idiots sitting in the boards and treat the clubs like economic companies, looking for a huge cut to their own wallets. Those people like in Hamburg, Bremen, Stuttgart have nothing to do with football to understand that the base of the economic success is the sport itself. Expanding isnt a bad thing, but it has to be done in context of the sport and the clubs capacity. hamburg for example completely missed to reform the board and the club. The result is this downfall. The we have this bullshit business model of selling promising players for more money instead of keeping them and build a squad around them. And I doubt that the clubs are properly investing into their youth, besides Stuttgart. And they are afraid of investors because they have to traded in some shares. This stubborn and archaic acting is why the clubs dont progress and why there looking like companies instead of sport clubs.
 

Zabojnik

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Kenka

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Haha, I like the way you call the clubs. Fitting :D
But yes, the money thing is another huge problem. Too many idiots sitting in the boards and treat the clubs like economic companies, looking for a huge cut to their own wallets. Those people like in Hamburg, Bremen, Stuttgart have nothing to do with football to understand that the base of the economic success is the sport itself. Expanding isnt a bad thing, but it has to be done in context of the sport and the clubs capacity. hamburg for example completely missed to reform the board and the club. The result is this downfall. The we have this bullshit business model of selling promising players for more money instead of keeping them and build a squad around them. And I doubt that the clubs are properly investing into their youth, besides Stuttgart. And they are afraid of investors because they have to traded in some shares. This stubborn and archaic acting is why the clubs dont progress and why there looking like companies instead of sport clubs.

'Schalke 06' would be up there too if it wasn't for Huntelard.

I wonder what it will take for these specific BL clubs to get their shit together. They had the best auspices among all European clubs hovering around places 3-6 in the European leagues and yet they fucked everything up. The teams around Peter Peters, Allofs, Bobic, Völler and the likes are really damaging an entire legacy. And obviously this won't help the BL increase its marketability abroad.
 

Kenka

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That's a bit of a weird question because you cannot find two same answers when it comes to comparing them :

https://www.google.ch/search?q=schw...ogan+vergleich&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

There is still some anecdotal evidence if you want ;)

The world needs more Thomas Müller gifs.
And Gündogan is the third best midfielder this generation after Schweinsteiger and Kroos. Its a shame that Löw still thinks that Özil and Khedira could really win something...
*tot*
 

Ushojax

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I wished we had got Halilovic signed up in the summer, seems like we didn't want to yield to his crazy father's demands. First he was going to Tottenham, then Bayern, now finally Barcelona.
 

GorillaJu

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That Kagawa vs Olympiakos vid is tragic. He deserves a real team. It's such a shame United would never do business with Liverpool for such a quality player because I think he's the type who would flourish under Rodgers.
 

confuziz

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Jasper Cillessen (Ajax), Michel Vorm (Swansea City), Jeroen Zoet (PSV).

Daley Blind, Joël Veltman (Ajax), Karim Rekik (PSV), Gregory van der Wiel (Paris Saint-Germain), Bruno Martins Indi, Daryl Janmaat (Feyenoord), Paul Verhaegh (FC Augsburg), Ron Vlaar (Aston Villa).

Jordy Clasie (Feyenoord), Davy Klaassen (Ajax), Stijn Schaars (PSV), Wesley Sneijder (Galatasaray), Kevin Strootman (AS Roma).

Jean-Paul Boëtius (Feyenoord), Memphis Depay, Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Dirk Kuyt (Fenerbahçe), Robin van Persie (Manchester United), Quincy Promes (FC Twente), Arjen Robben (Bayern München).

REKIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKK. Thank you City. We want him next season too btw.
 

GorillaJu

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Jasper Cillessen (Ajax), Michel Vorm (Swansea City), Jeroen Zoet (PSV).

Daley Blind, Joël Veltman (Ajax), Karim Rekik (PSV), Gregory van der Wiel (Paris Saint-Germain), Bruno Martins Indi, Daryl Janmaat (Feyenoord), Paul Verhaegh (FC Augsburg), Ron Vlaar (Aston Villa).

Jordy Clasie (Feyenoord), Davy Klaassen (Ajax), Stijn Schaars (PSV), Wesley Sneijder (Galatasaray), Kevin Strootman (AS Roma).

Jean-Paul Boëtius (Feyenoord), Memphis Depay, Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Schalke 04), Dirk Kuyt (Fenerbahçe), Robin van Persie (Manchester United), Quincy Promes (FC Twente), Arjen Robben (Bayern München).

REKIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKK. Thank you City. We want him next season too btw.

Jordy Clasie getting his call-up? That's awesome, I've been following him for a few seasons and think he's an underrated player.
 

confuziz

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Jordy Clasie getting his call-up? That's awesome, I've been following him for a few seasons and think he's an underrated player.

Well I don't think he is underrated. He's good, but not good enough to perform every week. Not yet ready for a foreign league either.
 

GorillaJu

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He has to go back!

He shouldn't. No one should just go back to their old club after under-performing somewhere else. It's a bitch move. If you leave your team and your coach, you just can't come back with your tail between your legs as a prodigal son.

Maybe he'll join Honda at Milan. That would be great for the Japanese national team if the WC was in like 2016, not this year.
 

subtles

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Kagawa would be a perfect signing. When he first trained with United the coaching staff were amazed with his stamina, recovery and physical fitness. Dortmund were, prior to Bayern's renaissance, considered the fittest team in Europe.
 

Feorax

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Fady's having a field day on Twitter.

It's a fair point. He probably would have had more of a chance of making the national team staying at Chelsea and playing fewer games than trying to impress under Moyes' tactics.

I get the feeling he was so eager to get away from Mourinho and Chelsea that he was blinded to exactly what he was getting himself in to. It's not like he's played poorly, but in the position he's being asked to play in and with some of the players he has around him, it's going to be difficult to impress Del Bosque.
 

GorillaJu

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I don't think Mata's not being called up has anything to do with moving to Man Utd, or Moyes, I think it's that he just hasn't been playing first team football often enough. He'll probably be in the world cup squad.
 

I didn't really like it at first, either. But sometimes it just makes sense for everyone involved.

Sahin's career isn't finished already and we got an amazing DM "backup" (Gündogan lol ;( ) for cheap. If Nuri hadn't come back, he'd spent his time playing for a midtable side or even worse, at Arsenal. And we would have been proper fucked after Gündogan's injury.
 

Ushojax

Should probably not trust the 7-11 security cameras quite so much
Ade:

The towering Togolese has netted 11 goals in 15 appearances, and five in his last four games.

He has scored almost one out of every two shots this season and his shot conversion rate of 42.1 per cent is the highest of any player in the Premier League.

He's become clinical which is not a word normally associated with Adebayor.
 
Ever since I started playing Fifa I've come to realize why many call Madrid a den of cunts. Apparently 90% of the people who choose Real Madrid, play and act like total cocks. Incredible.
 

Into

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The fine folks at Football Weekly podcast mentioned that Moyes has 12 games to turn this around? Where is this rumor coming from? They typically do not mention rumors that dont have some weight to them?

Also mentioned that Vidic is upset over how his negotiations went, and does not even dress/shower with the rest of the team.
 

GorillaJu

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The fine folks at Football Weekly podcast mentioned that Moyes has 12 games to turn this around? Where is this rumor coming from? They typically do not mention rumors that dont have some weight to them?

Also mentioned that Vidic is upset over how his negotiations went, and does not even dress/shower with the rest of the team.

They're just talking about rumors, I wouldn't give any special credence to it just because it's on Football Weekly. Rafael Honeigstein, occasionally Amy Lawrence have legit insider information, the rest of the time they're just as clueless as us and are going off what they read in papers/on Twitter.
 
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