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Football Thread 13/14 |OT19| It's a good sign when its boring
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No you're right, players being out injured don't matter at all. Oh by the way how has the Barca defence been doing with Pique, Puyol and Valdes all out injured? Bet it hasn't cost Barca any points at all.....
We've entered the spin zone
If Moyes stays, he will be shit. Otherwise, he'll score at least 20 goals.
Vivalaraza
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Nobody is saying we should be winning the title though, or very few people are anyway.
The point is the team looks like it doesn't give a fuck. That means it doesn't matter who's out there, if the players don't care, they aren't going to do the business.
Now the players take responsibility for that, they have to and many of them have been a disgrace. But if the manager can't change it...that's a pretty big problem and that's on him.
Might still get to 20 this year. 17 right now.
Nicktendo86
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I'm just not shocked or surprised anymore. Turn my tablet on to check scores and just laughed when I saw 2-0. If storage hunters wasn't on dave right now I would be depressed.
Who's we??? Don't know what team you support, but i'll guarantee whatever team it was United had more players out injured compared to their opposition that day, it's been the story of the season.How much of your first team was missing when we beat your ass @ old trafford?
LabouredSubterfuge
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Nah, I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding what a good manager does with his players. He gets the best out of them no matter what their ability level is.
Everton's players look better because they're motivated, organised and well trained.
Broder Salsa
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This thread is painful every time United lose due to people responding to doicare, will you never learn?
Nicktendo86
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Jesus h crackers, Moyes you son of a whore just cunt off would you
Man, denswil and moisander must be on valium
Moyes had Everton looking motivated, organised and well trained when he was there.
Give him enough time at United and he will do the same.
Denswil's loss of possession just near the end of the first half, holy shit. This is actually happening in the Dutch cup final. I was expecting Ajax to crush PEC after the first goal too (and tbh, before the match as well). Glad PEC is ahead though, go go underdogs.
Marc
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They have thrown Fireworks on the field, after which Ajax scored the 1-0. During the celebration they threw fireworks for the second time after which the Ref stopped the game for 15 minutes or so. But now PEC turned the game around and are leading with 4-1 haha
It's the cup final BTW
Holy shit, good that no one got hit at least. Remember that Inter player getting hit?
And 4-1? What idiots.
PLEASE SAVE US FROM DOICARE
I refuse to believe you actually think that's true.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Phantast2k
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Your team is still dysfunctional and stupidly composed, your manager sucks and all the while you hug the nuts of old & fat stars.
If Klopp can field a CM out of a 22yo noob who played for Partizan Belgrade 3 months ago, who hasn't completed a full 90m for us before that and a 31yo dude who came from a relegated team and played maybe 3-4 90m games for us the past 2 years and whose name some fans never even fucking heard before AND still get a results against Madrid, dominating them, having them on the brink of being kicked out of CL then you know something is wrong with your teams besides injuries.
/fuck yeah, Stuttgart
Vivalaraza
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I really feel like Martinez took the piss there.
Like he let us control the game the way Moyes would do...but then showed how you play on the counter.
Everton definitely could have dominated that game today.
Like he let us control the game the way Moyes would do...but then showed how you play on the counter.
Everton definitely could have dominated that game today.
brokenbeans
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Moyes out.
It's not my thing, it's a thing.
They lost it completely. All the players look dazed.
If Bojan had managed to score with that cracker it might have been a game again.
Unless they get vitamin injections i dont see them coming back
The problem with blaming it all on injuries is that usually someone is too blame for the injuries.
Sure, sometimes unlucky injuries happen. Theo destroying his knee and Jack chipping his weak coke bones would fall under luck i think. Ramsey and Ozil though were mismanagement.
I am sure there are examples of that at United.
Sure, sometimes unlucky injuries happen. Theo destroying his knee and Jack chipping his weak coke bones would fall under luck i think. Ramsey and Ozil though were mismanagement.
I am sure there are examples of that at United.
Lambda Pie
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if only Adnan had played...
Vivalaraza
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Presser underway.
Off with a corker
Off with a corker
LabouredSubterfuge
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:lol
He might be worse than Hodgson
Some cracks, some spilling out.
Mr.Marston
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I don't make excuses. I trust all our defenders to do a job. I don't believe they have cost us points. The whole team has played badly in recent weeks.
I never said injuries were the only thing that have been wrong with Manchester United this season but they've played a significant part. The sheer denial that injuries don't matter on this forum due to the pure bile, hatred and jealousy that so many people have against Manchester United due to how successful they've been over the years is equally pathetic as it is astounding.
Vivalaraza
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Moyes: "I thought we were the better team."
Trust me, I know more about shit managers, teams and players that don't try and managers getting the best out of shit teams than a Manchester United fan can learn, know and then forget again.
I'm not misunderstanding anything. Infact if you check my post history I'm pretty sure I commented on here months back that to me United looked like a team not playing for the manager. I KNOW that's a factor. And it's also something teams don't come back from.
But it's also not an accident, and it's also not a sole cause of where Manchester United are. They're not good enough. A lot of people looked at them last year and said they weren't good enough, but Fergie got the job done and quite frankly dragged that team to the title. Individually, you can look at any other team in the top 8 and pick out multiple areas where United are weaker than their competitors. And that's not about competing for the title, that's about competing with almost half the division.
It's an absolutely appalling state of affairs for a team like United and they're a long, long way (or a huge chunk of cash) away from competing for Champions League football next season, not just the title.
"Not trying" and "manager should be getting most out of them" are factors, but they're not the only ones. Moyes has done a shit job, I'm absolutely not defending Moyes here. He's done a shit job with a shit bunch of players in difficult circumstances. It's a horror show all round. Moyes should and will take some criticism for that. As should the players. And as should any fan who realistically, in the cold facts of day, expect that team as it lined up today to compete with Everton or the teams around and above them in the league. Long way off.
everthustodeadbeats
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Moyes makes Hodgson look competent. Please stay, David.
Damn, getting my ridiculous doicare posts. It's better than candy on Easter.
Damn, getting my ridiculous doicare posts. It's better than candy on Easter.
Can't have said that?
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