Trust me, I know more about shit managers, teams and players that don't try and managers getting the best out of shit teams than a Manchester United fan can learn, know and then forget again.
I'm not misunderstanding anything. Infact if you check my post history I'm pretty sure I commented on here months back that to me United looked like a team not playing for the manager. I KNOW that's a factor. And it's also something teams don't come back from.
But it's also not an accident, and it's also not a sole cause of where Manchester United are. They're not good enough. A lot of people looked at them last year and said they weren't good enough, but Fergie got the job done and quite frankly dragged that team to the title. Individually, you can look at any other team in the top 8 and pick out multiple areas where United are weaker than their competitors. And that's not about competing for the title, that's about competing with almost half the division.
It's an absolutely appalling state of affairs for a team like United and they're a long, long way (or a huge chunk of cash) away from competing for Champions League football next season, not just the title.
"Not trying" and "manager should be getting most out of them" are factors, but they're not the only ones. Moyes has done a shit job, I'm absolutely not defending Moyes here. He's done a shit job with a shit bunch of players in difficult circumstances. It's a horror show all round. Moyes should and will take some criticism for that. As should the players. And as should any fan who realistically, in the cold facts of day, expect that team as it lined up today to compete with Everton or the teams around and above them in the league. Long way off.
