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Arsenal are probably slight favourites to get fourth now that they're a point ahead of Everton and have the easier fixture list.
Everton have Southampton and City still to play too. Can see points dropped on one of those games. Spurs will probably fuck it up for us though.
I wish I could go to some Ajax games, would even get a season ticket if there was a connection from here.
What do you base this on?
What do you base this on?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_three_halves
Has anyone seen this?
Imagine if it happened today.
Also lol Derby
Has anyone seen this?
Also lol Derby
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_three_halves
Has anyone seen this?Imagine if it happened today.
Also lol Derby
So it was actually 11-0
Lol
Henderson is still massively underrated by the masses as he is not a 'YouTube clip player'.
FootballFan
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No, the real referee ruled out the first half that was played. So it ended 8-0.
Matches in the EL, overall quality of the play in the eredivisie and comparing it to midtable teams from the PL.
José Mourinho
cocknose
If Chelsea were beating anybody 3-0 and Chris Foy turned up 45 minutes late I bet he'd go for this.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_three_halves
Has anyone seen this?Imagine if it happened today.
Also lol Derby
Been the only outfield player to start every game for Liverpool this season, and has only been subbed off once (3-0 up against Norwich). Brilliant considering his work rate.
christ
mate the sunbathing bantz is the best thing on youtube you'll see today
The uproar if it happened these days.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_three_halves
Has anyone seen this?Imagine if it happened today.
Also lol Derby
I like the swiftness of the edit when it bounces back off the lamp post
José Mourinho
cocknose
I enjoyed that also :lol
Neither Barkley, nor Shaw, nor Lallana should really be on the shortlists. Seems a distinct English bias in their inclusions, to be honest.
I guess you can make a case that as Barkley and Shaw are teenagers, their performances should be judged with their younger ages in mind, but if that is the case then it's stupid to have the young player of the year award go up to 24; it should just be an under-21 award.
As for Lallana, seems like it's a case of some good recent performances biasing the selectors, attackers like Rooney and Silva have had far better contributions whilst there are multiple defensive players who could appear on the shortlist.
I guess you can make a case that as Barkley and Shaw are teenagers, their performances should be judged with their younger ages in mind, but if that is the case then it's stupid to have the young player of the year award go up to 24; it should just be an under-21 award.
As for Lallana, seems like it's a case of some good recent performances biasing the selectors, attackers like Rooney and Silva have had far better contributions whilst there are multiple defensive players who could appear on the shortlist.
There is no way Rooney has had a better season than Lallana.
FootballFan
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(looool
ESPN doesn't agree though.
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/10709445/sportingintelligence-global-salary-survey-espn-magazine
When it comes to football teams they got this list:
1. City
2. Real Madrid
3. Barcelona
4. Bayern
5. Man Utd
6. Chelsea
7. Arsenal
8. Juventus
9. Liverpool
10. Roma
11. Milan
12. Inter
13. Dortmund
14. Schalke
15. Tottenham
The list seems to be a little weird though and it seems they are looking at the 2012-2013 season?
Yeah, fucking hate those selectors being swayed by a player PLAYING REALLY WELL THROUGHOUT THE SEASON
makes my blood boil
Biased bastards
Give it to Rooney, he hasn't been playing well
Injustice
Rooney has 15 goals and 10 assists from 25 starts compared to 9 & 6 from 33 for Lallana - and Rooney has largely played behind the striker than up top, similar to Lallana. In other areas they are fairly similar.
Rooney may have had a number of lazy and useless appearances, but he has often been carrying the United side. I suspect someone who watched the 2 without any prior knowledge of them would rate Rooney the better player over the season; Everyone here has been so weighed down by the United fan hatred, by the Sun bullshit and the years of publicity surrounding him that no once can really judge him fairly.
LINETT said:
Yes, that's exactly what I said.
It doesn't matter that Lallana has done well, what is important is if he has been one of the top 6 players all season.
Remove Rooney, whatever, but has he been better than: Ramsey, Silva, Fernandinho, Terry, Cahill, Ivanovic, Skrtel, Lovren, De Gea, Cech, etc.?
No, for me.
I think saying Stoke would beat them all is a bit too much.
It would be a top 5 side though.
They have the budget.
I think if someone judged the two off stats without any prior knowledge would come to the conclusion that Rooney has been better, but actually watching them (and bear in mind I've watched every single minute Rooney has played this season; even the matches I've missed live I've gone back and watched), Lallana has been better.
Rooney scored a few free kicks that boosted his goal tally early on in the season (one or two which were flukey), and he's grabbing some assists from corners. Take his undeniably good set pieces out of the equation and it's far less impressive. He has been poor on the pitch for large swathes of this season, and it's been masked by the aforementioned set pieces and the fact the rest of the team has also been terrible.
That set-piece argument is bullshit. Do set-pieces not count in games, or something? You could apply exactly the same argument to Gerrard - in fact, far more to Gerrard - yet you won't find anyone querying his inclusion in the shortlist.
And whilst you are certainly in a good position to argue that Rooney has not been good enough this season - though again, heuristics and biases will play a huge role in your opinion - have you seen every game Lallana has played this season, or even close to every game?
3Sixty said:
Confirmation Bias! Reverse Halo Effect! Anchoring! Cached Thoughts! Framing! and so on.
LabouredSubterfuge
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All I know is that Adam Lallana has had a very good season by Adam Lallana's standards and that Rooney has had a fairly poor season by Rooney's standards and that Rooney has verifiably produced more on the pitch than Lallana this season.
Silva has definitely been better and Rooney scored the greatest goal ever, so...
But they're not the hipster choices
I don't think Silva's been great over the course of the season though.
Aguero and Negredo carried them for half a season, Silva's recently turned it on. Ferna and Yaya have been their only consistently good players all season, with intermittent spells from Nasri and Zaba.
Silva's been excellent for a fair few games in a row now, but I can't remember him doing very much at the start of the campaign.
I think Lallana's been great. There's a lot of good players left out this year, but if Fernandinho had been picked over him there probably would have been cries of big team bias, so people will moan either way. I'm happy he's getting the acclaim, and it might mean that Roy actually starts him in the World Cuo which would be nice.
Because in the case of Gerrard, I would say "he's been very good even if you did discount all the goals from penalties", whereas with Rooney I can only argue he's had a good season statistically and not in terms of actual performances on the pitch.
I suppose it's a bit like Messi, who has had an awful season by his standards but still has 30 odd goals. I'd make an argument he isn't even in the top 5 players in Spain this season, but his stats will obscure what has been a poor season for him.
FootballFan
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Hey, anyone know if there is a tech support thread on gaf?
Maybe one of you would know.
Basically:
- Xperia Tablet Z2
- Ipad Air
- Ipad mini(retina)
All 32GB.
All same price.
Which one is the best?
I'd be using it to watch videos/browse internet mainly.
Maybe one of you would know.
Basically:
- Xperia Tablet Z2
- Ipad Air
- Ipad mini(retina)
All 32GB.
All same price.
Which one is the best?
I'd be using it to watch videos/browse internet mainly.
You say Silva hasn't been great over the course of the season, I could say the same of Lallana. Apart from the Newcastle game I don't think he's been up to much in the last 2-3 months. His great form kind of petered out at the end of January.
edit: Bridcutt still not available this weekend. He missed Everton because his wife went into labour the night before. Hope 2+2=5 here.
edit: Bridcutt still not available this weekend. He missed Everton because his wife went into labour the night before. Hope 2+2=5 here.
Suppose so. I'd have Terry over either of them anyway.
pulga
Banned
Ipad Air for sure though. Never used Z2 but seriously hard to beat Air. It's just perfect
FootballFan
Member
Have you tried it out? Or is this just what you've heard/read?
Cool, thanks Gurthang.
Z2 releases in a week here, I haven't seen it in person yet, was wondering if anyone here has any opinion on it in comparison to the other 2 I mentioned.
pulga
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maaaan i have no idea i just wanted to shop bale into the background of an ipad okay sheesh get off my back
Willkiller
Banned
Ipad Air without a doubt. Under the 'All the same price' stipulation anyway.
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